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Does Fvv have a high basketball IQ ?

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Re: Does Fvv have a high basketball IQ ? 

Post#81 » by TD2FutureStar » Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:59 am

pr0gr4m wrote:
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pr0gr4m wrote:Fred is levels above Norm on defense. There is a reason why Norm was the 11th man on the championship team and Fred wasn't

Yeah its because Powell hadn't broken out as a player til this year. Last year he started trending the right way and then he just exploded this yr. Keep trying to discredit him tho and myself I find it entertaining.

The problem has always been defense with him. He hasn't been a different player before and now.

Do you actually watch the games? Powell was a good defender earlier in his career and was tasked with guarding the elite wings in the playoffs like Middleton, George and LeBron. He did an adequate job as well. The past 2 years he's really focused on his scoring and his d metrics took a dip. Offensive players get paid a ton more so smart move on his behalf.
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Re: Does Fvv have a high basketball IQ ? 

Post#82 » by pr0gr4m » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:08 am

TD2FutureStar wrote:
pr0gr4m wrote:
TD2FutureStar wrote:Yeah its because Powell hadn't broken out as a player til this year. Last year he started trending the right way and then he just exploded this yr. Keep trying to discredit him tho and myself I find it entertaining.

The problem has always been defense with him. He hasn't been a different player before and now.

Do you actually watch the games? Powell was a good defender earlier in his career and was tasked with guarding the elite wings in the playoffs like Middleton, George and LeBron. He did an adequate job as well. The past 2 years he's really focused on his scoring and his d metrics took a dip. Offensive players get paid a ton more so smart move on his behalf.

Sounds like you watch Powell play and not the actual team.

Of course I don't watch games. I just discuss raptors and basketball without watching anything. What are you asking?

Do you watch basketball or do you watch raptors games or just Powell and TD?

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Re: Does Fvv have a high basketball IQ ? 

Post#83 » by johanliebert » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:12 am

Reverend X wrote:Nah, Fred has very average IQ for a point guard. I’d say no more than Malcolm brogdon. Maybe even Jeff Teague level IQ.

Brogdon and Teague have high bball iq’s. You’re confusing ability with iq
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Re: Does Fvv have a high basketball IQ ? 

Post#84 » by johanliebert » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:13 am

agkagk wrote:He’s 6 feet tall and succeeding as a ball handler in the nba.

By definition his ball iq has to be at least above average.

I have to assume this thread is full of teenagers, why do I post.

This.
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Re: Does Fvv have a high basketball IQ ? 

Post#85 » by TD2FutureStar » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:17 am

pr0gr4m wrote:
TD2FutureStar wrote:
pr0gr4m wrote:The problem has always been defense with him. He hasn't been a different player before and now.

Do you actually watch the games? Powell was a good defender earlier in his career and was tasked with guarding the elite wings in the playoffs like Middleton, George and LeBron. He did an adequate job as well. The past 2 years he's really focused on his scoring and his d metrics took a dip. Offensive players get paid a ton more so smart move on his behalf.

Sounds like you watch Powell play and not the actual team.

Of course I don't watch games. I just discuss raptors and basketball without watching anything. What are you asking?

Do you watch basketball or do you watch raptors games or just Powell and TD?

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You're hopeless. Good night
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Re: Does Fvv have a high basketball IQ ? 

Post#86 » by pr0gr4m » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:25 am

TD2FutureStar wrote:
pr0gr4m wrote:
TD2FutureStar wrote:Do you actually watch the games? Powell was a good defender earlier in his career and was tasked with guarding the elite wings in the playoffs like Middleton, George and LeBron. He did an adequate job as well. The past 2 years he's really focused on his scoring and his d metrics took a dip. Offensive players get paid a ton more so smart move on his behalf.

Sounds like you watch Powell play and not the actual team.

Of course I don't watch games. I just discuss raptors and basketball without watching anything. What are you asking?

Do you watch basketball or do you watch raptors games or just Powell and TD?

LeBron spanked Toronto years in a row

You're hopeless. Good night

Powell has a low IQ but then again that's relative. After this discussion I think he may have a high IQ. Seems like you willed yourself to victory here LOL
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Re: Does Fvv have a high basketball IQ ? 

Post#87 » by Rapsfan07 » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:50 am

Fred is a high BBIQ player, no doubt in my mind about that.

But after skimming through this thread, it's apparent posters are confusing BBIQ and ability. They're two different things.

FVV has always been great on the defensive end, both on and off the ball. He sticks with his man pretty well and is disruptive when his man has the ball. The problem comes in on the offensive end. He's an unathletic, short PG. That, in and of itself is not the problem. Lowry and Paul for example have the same limitations and are HOF quality PGs. The issue with FVV is mostly around his lack of quick first step. Because he doesn't have one, he is overly reliant on his 3 point shot. Thank God he shoots it at a very good clip but even then, it really affects his usefulness on the court.

Not having that quick first step not only means he relies a lot on his 3s (most of FVVs shot attempts are from behind the arc), it also means he's heavily reliant on the screen to get him into the midrange/painted area. He shoots the midrange pretty well but he just doesn't get a chance to take many of them because he can't get there. This also means he's spending a lot of time pounding the rock waiting for the screen to be set. Guys in the NBA go over the top of screens really quickly and so it doesn't always guarantee him the separation he needs to operate.

The few times he does get to the rim, he attempts to score over multiple defenders, which is mostly (and quite obviously) unsuccessful. So when you consider that he barely attempts shots at the rim, and he when he does, they're heavily contested, it's not a surprise that his percentages are woefully low in there.

He averages a decent amount of assist but doesn't really coordinate an offense.

So what you have with FVV is LITERALLY a 3&D point guard. His best skills are his 3 and defense. Everything else is either mediocre or subpar.

All that to say that you can win a chip with him as your starting PG but you MUST have a superstar at your SG or SF. Someone who is at least an above average playmaker, shooter & slasher.

If you're going to keep OG long term, that means you need to have a superstar SG. If you can't get one of those, you need to trade FVV.
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