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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#801 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:11 pm

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:I lowkey wanna try and grab Bones Hyland...Hes on the block for the Nuggets atm and looks super exciting....His scoring upside is insane and a good 3 Pt shooter...

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Would love to see if we can grab him in a deal if his price tag isnt crazy...



Yep, this guy is really good. Him over fvv anyday but I dunno how we get it done

His range is unlimited plus he can finish at the rim.. we should be bagging this kid

Can create off the dribble. Get it done Masai


Depends on his price tag but I would seriously consider it.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#802 » by Raptors Realtor » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:15 pm

JRoy wrote:
PaperHoops wrote:Suppose we went after:

Nurkic
Hart
Sharpe

For

OG
And what?

Thoughts on taking on Nurkic? I think he’s got the play making abilities in the post, plus a potential force to make other teams have to double team.


POR is not giving up Sharpe for OG


If that's the case we're probably not good trade partners because not really sure what Portland could offer us for OG... We want/need more then picks.
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Post#803 » by JRoy » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:15 pm

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Zeno wrote:I was thinking Josh Hart for Boucher. Maybe someone who you might keep around. But a player option, non-guaranteed if picked up.


Zero interest from POR.

Willing to move Hart for an asset, Boucher doesn’t get it done.

I respect your opinion but to speak so authoritatively about what the Blazers would or wouldn't be interested in is silly unless you have inside knowledge of some kind.


Fair enough.

I don’t pretend to be some kind of insider.

I do know that POR grabbed a draft guru that wanted Sharpe badly, and believes he has star potential. Fans are excited about the player he is today and very excited about the player he might become.

OG is a great role player.

Making that kind of move would be incredibly short sighted, especially since OG wants more shots and hasn’t proven he can do all that much on offense besides catch and shoot.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#804 » by fbalmeida » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:17 pm

The TLDR version of the neat Grange piece:

We're keeping Fred and Trent and going forward for now with:

Fred
Trent
Scottie
Siakam
Achiuwa

We're probably going to try and unload Birch, Porter, and perhaps Boucher to avoid luxury tax trouble.

... and we're trading OG. The baseline return seems to be the three FRP deal from the Knicks (top-10 protected, top-14 protected and top-18 protected from other teams) and they're going to try and pry a better return from the Grizzles, Pelicans, and Nuggets

QUICK!

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Post#805 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:18 pm

alpngso wrote:Pels losing 9 in a row doesn't help us get Dyson or Trey III at all
@ DAL, LAL, SAC, they might lose the next three too


I disagree. I think this recent slide may cause the front office to realize they need to cash in on some of their youth for a more established player. Maybe OG?
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Post#806 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:19 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:I feel like a lot of you watch highlights when you say things like Hyland would be great for this team and don't actually watch Denver.

The Raptors do not need another sporadic offensive player who does not play any defense, especially at point guard. He's a good bench piece but that's about it.


This is exactly the role I would be interested in having him in. A gunner PG off the bench that can give us some instant offense during drought periods. But I'm not willing to do a first round pick. Most I'd offer is Banton and a 2nd.
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Post#807 » by ItsDanger » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:21 pm

Dame calls the shots, not a draft guru. PR moves . Sharpe will be sacrificed on the altar of ring chasing. Just like so many before him. If it was up to this poster, Dame is going to retire still waiting for his chance. You got 2-3 seasons left realistically
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#808 » by JRoy » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:25 pm

Raptors Realtor wrote:
JRoy wrote:
PaperHoops wrote:Suppose we went after:

Nurkic
Hart
Sharpe

For

OG
And what?

Thoughts on taking on Nurkic? I think he’s got the play making abilities in the post, plus a potential force to make other teams have to double team.


POR is not giving up Sharpe for OG


If that's the case we're probably not good trade partners because not really sure what Portland could offer us for OG... We want/need more then picks.


Agreed.

If POR had been able to sustain some of that early success things might be different.
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Post#809 » by Zeno » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:26 pm

JRoy wrote:
Zeno wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Zero interest from POR.

Willing to move Hart for an asset, Boucher doesn’t get it done.

I respect your opinion but to speak so authoritatively about what the Blazers would or wouldn't be interested in is silly unless you have inside knowledge of some kind.


Fair enough.

I don’t pretend to be some kind of insider.

I do know that POR grabbed a draft guru that wanted Sharpe badly, and believes he has star potential. Fans are excited about the player he is today and very excited about the player he might become.

OG is a great role player.

Making that kind of move would be incredibly short sighted, especially since OG wants more shots and hasn’t proven he can do all that much on offense besides catch and shoot.

My post was on Boucher for Hart. But as regards Sharpe, I can fully understand why you wouldn't want to trade a younger player with some promise or future picks for that matter, but if that were the case then what the F are the Blazers doing with Lilliard. Just move on then. You either believe in your future with the guy or you don't. Not talking to you personally but the Blazers front office. And if they brought in a draft guru why were they offering their pick predraft reportedly for win-now improvements? Blazers are a confusing team to read from a direction point of view.
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Post#810 » by mtcan » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:27 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Dame calls the shots, not a draft guru. PR moves . Sharpe will be sacrificed on the altar of ring chasing. Just like so many before him. If it was up to this poster, Dame is going to retire still waiting for his chance. You got 2-3 seasons left realistically

Ya...a Portland fan yesterday was talking about how they would rather keep Sharpe and I don't Portland hanging on to him when there is a guy who can give the Blazers what they have lacked for the last 5 years. Look at all the draft picks they gave up get Robert Covington and then Jerami Grant...it is a lot of draft picks.

OG is exactly what they have been looking for and he is a win-now player and someone you can resign and have in his prime for another 5+ years.
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Post#811 » by JRoy » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:28 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Dame calls the shots, not a draft guru. PR moves . Sharpe will be sacrificed on the altar of ring chasing. Just like so many before him. If it was up to this poster, Dame is going to retire still waiting for his chance. You got 2-3 seasons left realistically


I call this the “pretend to contend” team. A better coach would be a great start and there is no realistic way to turn this team into a real contender. Adding a roleplayer, even a top end one like OG changes nothing and costs assets better spent on a rebuild.

Does this mean positionless basketball in TOR is over, or are you just looking to change up your talent?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#812 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:29 pm

POR in no man's land if they arent willing to give up rookies for a 25 yr old OG to help a 33 yr old Dame.

Either shyt or get off the pot
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Post#813 » by ItsDanger » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:30 pm

JRoy wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Dame calls the shots, not a draft guru. PR moves . Sharpe will be sacrificed on the altar of ring chasing. Just like so many before him. If it was up to this poster, Dame is going to retire still waiting for his chance. You got 2-3 seasons left realistically


I call this the “pretend to contend” team. A better coach would be a great start and there is no realistic way to turn this team into a real contender. Adding a roleplayer, even a top end one like OG changes nothing and costs assets better spent on a rebuild.

Does this mean positionless basketball in TOR is over, or are you just looking to change up your talent?

I believe our teams talking points are just that, meant to cover up shortcomings. The slant will change when better players are added.
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Post#814 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:31 pm

lol these picks r so shyt

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Post#815 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:32 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:lol these picks r so shyt

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Post#816 » by mtcan » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:36 pm

JRoy wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Dame calls the shots, not a draft guru. PR moves . Sharpe will be sacrificed on the altar of ring chasing. Just like so many before him. If it was up to this poster, Dame is going to retire still waiting for his chance. You got 2-3 seasons left realistically


I call this the “pretend to contend” team. A better coach would be a great start and there is no realistic way to turn this team into a real contender. Adding a roleplayer, even a top end one like OG changes nothing and costs assets better spent on a rebuild.

Does this mean positionless basketball in TOR is over, or are you just looking to change up your talent?

Consider all the draft capital the Blazers front office gave up to get Robert Covington and then Jerami Grant. Win-now moves are what the Blazers are about as long as Dame is still there.

OG will be more productive than Covington ever was and yet he was worth 2 first round picks.

Sharpe for OG is a no-brainer given the history.

There is potential to have both Grant and Anunoby guarding the opposing team's best players and dramatically improve defensively.
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Post#817 » by tanuki1031 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:36 pm

JRoy wrote:
Zeno wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Zero interest from POR.

Willing to move Hart for an asset, Boucher doesn’t get it done.

I respect your opinion but to speak so authoritatively about what the Blazers would or wouldn't be interested in is silly unless you have inside knowledge of some kind.


Fair enough.

I don’t pretend to be some kind of insider.

I do know that POR grabbed a draft guru that wanted Sharpe badly, and believes he has star potential. Fans are excited about the player he is today and very excited about the player he might become.

OG is a great role player.

Making that kind of move would be incredibly short sighted, especially since OG wants more shots and hasn’t proven he can do all that much on offense besides catch and shoot.


Not being a hater, merely bringing up some points.

This draft guru's work was already cut out for him. Sharpe was highly regarded leading up to the eventual draft and with POR drafting at #7 BPA was between a more sure thing in Sharpe or a wild card in Sochan.
Let's not act like POR exerted immense efforts to steal a diamond in the rough no one else saw.

Various league sources, executive level team sources, NBA media have all reported OG being heavily coveted. However we feel about him, interest and perception of OG is incredibly high.

I'd keep Sharpe if I was POR but I have no clue how much influence Dame has and whether he wants OG. If Grant doesn't sign that extension, you guys are more likely looking down the OG barrel.

Hope whatever happens it works out for both fanbases.
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Post#818 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:44 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:lol these picks r so shyt

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If they are unprotected....I would not mind it....Knicks are a disaster most seasons....They might be winning atm but next year or two they are so unpredictable....Could work in our favor getting future picks from a notoriously bad runned franchise..
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Post#819 » by JRoy » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:48 pm

mtcan wrote:
JRoy wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Dame calls the shots, not a draft guru. PR moves . Sharpe will be sacrificed on the altar of ring chasing. Just like so many before him. If it was up to this poster, Dame is going to retire still waiting for his chance. You got 2-3 seasons left realistically


I call this the “pretend to contend” team. A better coach would be a great start and there is no realistic way to turn this team into a real contender. Adding a roleplayer, even a top end one like OG changes nothing and costs assets better spent on a rebuild.

Does this mean positionless basketball in TOR is over, or are you just looking to change up your talent?

Consider all the draft capital the Blazers front office gave up to get Robert Covington and then Jerami Grant. Win-now moves are what the Blazers are about as long as Dame is still there.

OG will be more productive than Covington ever was and yet he was worth 2 first round picks.

Sharpe for OG is a no-brainer given the history.

There is potential to have both Grant and Anunoby guarding the opposing team's best players and dramatically improve defensively.


RoCo was the last gm and Grant was a MIL FRP and SRPs.

TOR Wil want more than that which POR should not pay.
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Post#820 » by mtcan » Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:52 pm

If rumors are true that Portland was willing to trade the #7 pick last summer for OG...I don't think that energy has changed now that it's no longer just a nameless pick.

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