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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#901 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:01 pm

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ciueli wrote:
He's a decent traditional big man centre, but he's wildly overpaid for that production. Not a player I'd want at $31M/year and climbing.


I think he still has untapped potential. People forget what he did during the Suns first trip to the finals, all while at the age of 22. He has clearly been unhappy with the Suns since they don't seem to appreciate what he's capable of. It's not the first guy the Suns tried to cheap out on.

And what do people think OG will earn during his next contract? It's gonna be close to the 30M mark, which will be pretty damn close to Ayton. We're not in a position of strength so if I'm able to get someone as good as Ayton who also fills a major hole, I'm taking it no doubt.


A Fred package for Ayton i could go for now but,if its something around OG, I would rather wait for the summer when we know where we are drafting and if we could potentially land the 1st pick and draft Victor. I dont see a huge market for Ayton in case we want to offload him in the future if we draft a big.

Lol Ayton is a bad contract regardless of whether Fred or OG is being traded. Stay away from all costs.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#902 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:05 pm

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Post#903 » by HangTime » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:07 pm

If Myles Turner is trade eligible,

Maybe There's a three team trade where the main pieces are:

Raptors get Turner
Pacers get Ayton
Suns gets Fred

Then you can fill in gaps.
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Post#904 » by anotherhomer » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:07 pm

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that's not surprising....they do have a surplus of SGs...
but i'm not sure if a trade can be had
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#905 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:09 pm

HangTime wrote:If Myles Turner is trade eligible,

Maybe There's a three team trade where the main pieces are:

Raptors get Turner
Pacers get Ayton
Suns gets Fred

Then you can fill in gaps.


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Post#906 » by Highflyerwire » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:09 pm

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Highflyerwire wrote:I agree it's not great, but the pick and roll opportunities DA would provide for all of our starters is something we are sorely lacking that even when Scottie fills that role we improve. To me, Siakam and Scottie are more High Post scorers and they have playmaking chops. Actions with Pskills and Barnes with Ayton should give people better looks outside but it's a gamble for sure.

I agree in a vacuum DA is a really good option as a pick setter but that is a slight improvement for the massive downgrade we'd have exchanging OG for DA in regards to our biggest need in reliable floor spacing. The upside with OG is also in a different stratosphere than DA and i'd rather just give him his new contract than pay Ayton is max deal already.

DA is a luxury that a team built around Scottie and Pascal just doesn't need man. Precious is giving us similar production to Ayton at a fraction of the price. A package built around CamJo, Dario and picks would be a much better outcome.... even then its a package that doesn't necessarily blow me away either. Phoenix only has their own picks, which will be terrible if they get OG from us.


The only thing I'd add to my argument since you bring up Precious, is that Precious is closer to OG than to Ayton in terms of what he offers to a team. If DA can't elevate the sun's who have good 3pt shooting it's hard to see him elevate the raptors who do not, I get that.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#907 » by Sandman88 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:10 pm

HangTime wrote:If Myles Turner is trade eligible,

Maybe There's a three team trade where the main pieces are:

Raptors get Turner
Pacers get Ayton
Suns gets Fred

Then you can fill in gaps.

Pritchard and Carlisle already shut that down. Turner is staying in Indy
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Post#908 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:13 pm

What would it take to get Mathurin? OG plus?
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Post#909 » by Zeno » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:17 pm

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that's not surprising....they do have a surplus of SGs...
but i'm not sure if a trade can be had

It is really a simple trade of OG, Thad, Khem for Turner, Boston 1st, Cleveland 1st. Those are two late 1sts that I can’t see being a stumbling block. It works for them because they can probably do that same renegotiation with OG next year that they did this year with Turner.
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Post#910 » by positivetension » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:18 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:What would it take to get Mathurin? OG plus?

Why would Indiana trade their stud rookie when they are rebuilding?
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Post#911 » by bboyskinnylegs » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:22 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:What would it take to get Mathurin? OG plus?

Why would Indiana trade their stud rookie when they are rebuilding?

they probably wouldn't. But then, it's not like anyone outside of Hali or Mathurin gets us to trade O.G. to them either.
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Post#912 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:22 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:What would it take to get Mathurin? OG plus?

Why would Indiana trade their stud rookie when they are rebuilding?


It's like asking us to trade Barnes. People should learn to value other teams young players as you do your own lol.
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Post#913 » by tdotrep2 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:23 pm

turner and 2 late firsts is... ok. but i would rather go for a more rebuilding type move, if we could get a good pick + prospect from the pelicans i would much prefer that route.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#914 » by mg » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:28 pm

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This kind of stuff on social media strikes me as very immature tbh.
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Post#915 » by raptorforlife88 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:29 pm

What's Mathurin's value relative to OG? Does the rookie contract balance out the fact that OG is obviously at this stage a much better player, and one of the best 3&D players in the league.

Like in a Theis/Mathurin for OG trade, could you do it without picks, which team would have to give up a pick if they did?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#916 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:30 pm

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This kind of stuff on social media strikes me as very immature tbh.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#917 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:30 pm

raptorforlife88 wrote:What's Mathurin's value relative to OG? Does the rookie contract balance out the fact that OG is obviously at this stage a much better player, and one of the best 3&D players in the league.

Like in a Theis/Mathurin for OG trade, could you do it without picks, which team would have to give up a pick if they did?

Mathurin is untouchable.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#918 » by Godaddycurse » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:31 pm

Sandman88 wrote:
HangTime wrote:If Myles Turner is trade eligible,

Maybe There's a three team trade where the main pieces are:

Raptors get Turner
Pacers get Ayton
Suns gets Fred

Then you can fill in gaps.

Pritchard and Carlisle already shut that down. Turner is staying in Indy


Ayton cannot legally be traded to Indiana this year due to Phoenix matching the offer sheet
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#919 » by raptorforlife88 » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:34 pm

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raptorforlife88 wrote:What's Mathurin's value relative to OG? Does the rookie contract balance out the fact that OG is obviously at this stage a much better player, and one of the best 3&D players in the league.

Like in a Theis/Mathurin for OG trade, could you do it without picks, which team would have to give up a pick if they did?

Mathurin is untouchable.


That's probably fair I guess. Rookies who score that well from the get go are rare.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#920 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:34 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
HangTime wrote:If Myles Turner is trade eligible,

Maybe There's a three team trade where the main pieces are:

Raptors get Turner
Pacers get Ayton
Suns gets Fred

Then you can fill in gaps.


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Doubt Pacers do it
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