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Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb (HOU)

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If still on the Board by our pick what are the chanches we draft him?

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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#961 » by MEDIC » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:13 pm

JamesNaismith wrote:The future of our franchise paused @ around 18 seconds.


Yeah, that was a sweet, sweet crossover.

He's one of those players where it looks like the feel for the game comes so effortless for him. Seems to be just natural. Some guys just have that & it looks like they aren't working hard, but the truth is they don't need to. They always said that about Devon White when he played center field. He looked like he wasn't playing hard or running hard, but he had such a natural feel for where the ball was going & such a graceful stride.......it just looked smooth & effortless.

You don't see 19 year olds with that type of natural feel for the game very often.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#962 » by JamesNaismith » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:43 pm

MEDIC wrote:
JamesNaismith wrote:The future of our franchise paused @ around 18 seconds.


Yeah, that was a sweet, sweet crossover.

He's one of those players where it looks like the feel for the game comes so effortless for him. Seems to be just natural. Some guys just have that & it looks like they aren't working hard, but the truth is they don't need to. They always said that about Devon White when he played center field. He looked like he wasn't playing hard or running hard, but he had such a natural feel for where the ball was going & such a graceful stride.......it just looked smooth & effortless.

You don't see 19 year olds with that type of natural feel for the game very often.


Yup...that's why he's been top of my board since we established that we're 8th overall.

I'll admit Lillard gained some ground on him but I still have a hard time shaking that he's from a small school and that he's basically the same age of DeMar and Ed. Not to mention watching Jeff Teague I seen too much resemblence for my liking. I definitely won't be upset with taking Lillard based on his own merits but I would because we would be missing out on Lamb.

The only thing that set me back is not really his interviews but the comparison he made for himself which was Jamal Crawford....this kid's physical tools and skills far surpass his imo. Here's a kid who almost unbelievably is criticized for being passive but like a broke record I keep saying it; he's the TOP scoring wing in the lotto...that's better than Beal, Barnes, MKG etc

Crazy to think what he's capable of if he ALREADY is out producing them when he was considered passive and had easily the most dysfunctional team out of all of them. 18ppg in college yet he's not aggressive enough; really something to ponder what he would produce if he were up to the standard we claim he's not reaaching....if he were as aggressive as we wanted wouldn't he easily be 23+ppg (in college -- that's only 2-3 more baskets)?!

Pretty exciting potential imo
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#963 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:59 pm

I've kept my drum out of this thread until this point, just back to check the oil, tires, brakes and timing belt on the Lambwagon. I think the Crawford comment was meant to let people know that he intends to attack and create his own shot in the NBA, a consistent (only?) question mark with him.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#964 » by God Squad » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:29 pm

JamesNaismith wrote:
MEDIC wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH5G5vyn1pI[/youtube]

Colangelo is going to mess up big time if he chooses not to take this guy (& Beal/ Barnes are off the board). Like Stefanski said......regardless of personality, you can't ignore talent. If the kid has talent/ skill, that has to be the number one deciding factor.


The future of our franchise paused @ around 18 seconds.

I thought you were talking about Jonas lol
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#965 » by JamesNaismith » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:33 pm

spade57 wrote:
JamesNaismith wrote:
MEDIC wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH5G5vyn1pI[/youtube]

Colangelo is going to mess up big time if he chooses not to take this guy (& Beal/ Barnes are off the board). Like Stefanski said......regardless of personality, you can't ignore talent. If the kid has talent/ skill, that has to be the number one deciding factor.


The future of our franchise paused @ around 18 seconds.

I thought you were talking about Jonas lol


I was lol....I'm referring to both of them joining our team next year ;)
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#966 » by _MidNight_ » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:42 pm

Lamb has ALWAYS been my guy since the beginning of the NCAA season. The kid dose exactly what this team needs. It baffles me how some around these parts ignore his talent because he doesn't sound how they think he should in interviews or because of his laid back demeanor.

I know BC won't buy all that crap, you don't find guys as young as Lamb with that kinda game very often... And with a coach like Casey that WILL get the best out of him the league should watch out for this kid in a few years. I still think Lamb is BC's target (if Barnes doesn't fall into our lap) and people just don't see it. That is all.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#967 » by JamesNaismith » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:00 pm

Liked watching his freshman HL again...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSg0jttR9HI[/youtube]

Reminded me how he almost thrives as a 2nd option (which he would be next to Bargnani) with very strong defence and clutch plays. Please Colangelo tell me that this kid is at the top of our list.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#968 » by Undefeated » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:14 pm

I think the self-comparison Lamb made to Jamal Crawford shows his humble nature. Nothing wrong with it imo.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#969 » by wanker » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:16 pm

What is the likelihood that Lamb becomes the new face of NyQuil?

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Post#970 » by Oops » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:30 pm

wanker wrote:What is the likelihood that Lamb becomes the new face of NyQuil?

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If he can be this good being half awake, can you imagine how good he would be once Casey and steroid wake him up? :o
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#971 » by JamesNaismith » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:42 pm

Undefeated wrote:I think the self-comparison Lamb made to Jamal Crawford shows his humble nature. Nothing wrong with it imo.


I kind of got into this in the other thread but I don't believe its that actually.

I believe it's that he still doesn't realize how good he is......

This is a kid that

1. Didn't start on his highschool team until his final 2 years
2. Wasn't a top 100 recruit coming out of highschool
3. Wasn't even noticed until he became the 2nd best player on the national championship team

Most of lotto picks are easily starters throughout highschool and are in fact showered with attention since probably the first or second year. I think Lamb's mind is stuck in thinking he's not that great because he wasn't even a starter until late in highschool and now all of sudden he went to be recognized as the 2nd best player on a national champion and now the top scoring wing in the lottery.

That's a big adjustment mentally for a kid who isn't accustom to the spotlight as yet.

But the crazy thing is he continues to improve and makes it all seems so effortless. If we continue to develop and mature this kid into understanding what a talent he already is (as unlike Perry Jones he actually continues to improve his production) we have an excellent young player that for some unknown reason continues to fly way under the radar.

Colangelo better realize his growth rate and capitalize now.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#972 » by yayotube » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:49 pm

_MidNight_ wrote:Lamb has ALWAYS been my guy since the beginning of the NCAA season. The kid dose exactly what this team needs. It baffles me how some around these parts ignore his talent because he doesn't sound how they think he should in interviews or because of his laid back demeanor.

I know BC won't buy all that crap, you don't find guys as young as Lamb with that kinda game very often... And with a coach like Casey that WILL get the best out of him the league should watch out for this kid in a few years. I still think Lamb is BC's target (if Barnes doesn't fall into our lap) and people just don't see it. That is all.

Talent is talent, and I'm confident with Stefanski in his ear he won't make the stupid mistake of discounting Lamb's talent because of his interviews.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#973 » by fredericklove » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:19 pm

Don't worry guys, he's like a little happy innocent lamb.

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Soon or later, he's going to turn into a big bad Lamb and break you down w/ swag 8-)

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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#974 » by SkywalkerAC » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:20 pm

I'm back on the bandwagon 100%. Was favouring LIllard a bit but Lamb is the guy that really excites me at this point. I think he can contribute now AND has significant upside. He can be a two-way player. He provides shooting and dynamic ball skills at a coveted position. He's not an alpha-dog leader but that's why we're bringing in veterans to echo Casey's ethos and gameplan - we need a system player who will buy into his role and hit shots and I think he can do that.

For a player criticized for his motor, he sure does move pretty well off the catch. He sets his man up with movement/footwork, and once he catches it he really seems to have his defender at his mercy. He has considerable ball skills so I wouldn't write off his ability to find the open man as he expands his game either.

He doesn't have Ginobili's motor at the 2, but neither did Reggie Miller.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#975 » by fatal9 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:27 pm

Waylon Mercy wrote:Lambs BBALL IQ and feel for the game is outstanding which is sad that it gets ignored because
he doesn't have a killer instinct like Kobe or Wade or isn't the greatest public speaker in the world.

If Lamb plays with any other PG than Napier or Boatright were talking about a 21-22ppg scorer.

What makes Lamb such an efficient scorer is he lets the game come to him but there were
times he was getting frustrated with his PGs and demanded the ball for ISO's and scored.
He was actually a better shot creator and on the ball scorer than I remembered.

This is how you can tell if someone's actually watched a prospect play. After hearing his combine interview (and the one where he compared himself to Jamal Crawford) people tried to paint him as a low IQ, lazy, selfish me-first player, when he plays NOTHING like that. In fact he'd be a better player if he was more selfish and tried to force the issue more.
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Post#976 » by Kenyon009 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:20 pm

I'd take him and let him grow a core of Val, Lamb, and Bargnani could be a force to be reckoned with later on in the future. Especially if you can get DeRozan and Ed back for cheap which will be pretty likely and with DeRozan's work ethic you know he'd be getting better each year.

Val
Bargnani/Ed
DeRozan
Lamb
Dragic

I wanna see that grow even if it doesn't make the playoffs next year (you add another lotto pick :o) That would bust open the second round easily.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#977 » by deeps6x » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:26 pm

Kenyon009 wrote:I'd take him and let him grow a core of Val, Lamb, and Bargnani could be a force to be reckoned with later on in the future. Especially if you can get DeRozan and Ed back for cheap which will be pretty likely and with DeRozan's work ethic you know he'd be getting better each year.

Val
Bargnani/Ed
DeRozan
Lamb
Dragic

I wanna see that grow even if it doesn't make the playoffs next year (you add another lotto pick :o) That would bust open the second round easily.


Well, that is questionable. He may be marginally getting better each year, but not by as much as you'd expect - especially with his 'famous' work ethic. I'm hoping working out with the olympic team teaches him a thing or two this summer. Maybe someone will show him how to exploit the physical tools, and what little 'talent' he actually has.

He is young and could still be a great part of a winning team down the road. I just see him in more of a 6th man role. He is only a starter because he is marginally better than our other SGs.
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Post#978 » by Turbo_Zone » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:11 pm

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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#979 » by redred9 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:25 am

Kenyon009 wrote:I'd take him and let him grow a core of Val, Lamb, and Bargnani could be a force to be reckoned with later on in the future. Especially if you can get DeRozan and Ed back for cheap which will be pretty likely and with DeRozan's work ethic you know he'd be getting better each year.

Val
Bargnani/Ed
DeRozan
Lamb
Dragic

I wanna see that grow even if it doesn't make the playoffs next year (you add another lotto pick :o) That would bust open the second round easily.


Yeah I agree with this. It's what I thought should happen all along. I know rumours about Nash, Igoudala, Gay are all awfully tempting and I wouldn't be complaining if we did acquire them, but this option is still my number one. Miss the playoffs in a competitive year next season and draft well one last time.

Obviously our ceiling all depends on how good Jonas, Lamb, Derozan and Ed develop but that's a young team worth watching long term imo which is a better option than 2 years of early exits with beloved Nash/Iggy at the helm and then looking for answers again with our young prospects traded away.

I have a feeling that proposed lineup will have nice chemistry and other than Bargs/Dragic they all still have a lot of upside.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#980 » by fredericklove » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:26 am

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