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Rhettmatic wrote:DX's Jonathan Givony has written an article for SI on five underachieving draft prospects. Any guess who's No. 1?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/b ... index.html
bboyskinnylegs wrote:I don't understand them saying Knight is not a 1st rounder, as I pointed out earlier his numbers aren't far off from what Tyreke put up in Memphis. He may not go in the top 5, but I think any team that drafts him in the 7-15 range will be very happy with the pick.
bboyskinnylegs wrote:I don't understand them saying Knight is not a 1st rounder, as I pointed out earlier his numbers aren't far off from what Tyreke put up in Memphis. He may not go in the top 5, but I think any team that drafts him in the 7-15 range will be very happy with the pick.
Alfred wrote:bboyskinnylegs wrote:Alfred wrote:Question to those that know better: Is Jan Vesely a small forward or a power forward?
He's a legit small forward, but the problem is he seems like more of a slashing, finishing type rather than a creator (kind of like DeMar, but he can shoot the ball pretty well too)... he hasn't looked like the type that's going to handle the ball a lot... so once again having an excellent PG that will create for everyone would be key.
So, a Marion-esque player?
Dr Mufasa wrote:bboyskinnylegs wrote:I don't understand them saying Knight is not a 1st rounder, as I pointed out earlier his numbers aren't far off from what Tyreke put up in Memphis. He may not go in the top 5, but I think any team that drafts him in the 7-15 range will be very happy with the pick.
Tyreke was an oversized SG, Knight is an undersized one. Big difference. Biggggggg dfference.
Dr Mufasa wrote:bboyskinnylegs wrote:I don't understand them saying Knight is not a 1st rounder, as I pointed out earlier his numbers aren't far off from what Tyreke put up in Memphis. He may not go in the top 5, but I think any team that drafts him in the 7-15 range will be very happy with the pick.
Tyreke was an oversized SG, Knight is an undersized one. Big difference. Biggggggg dfference.
truthrising wrote:Rhettmatic wrote:DX's Jonathan Givony has written an article for SI on five underachieving draft prospects. Any guess who's No. 1?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/b ... index.html
Man, I hope we're not in line with picking up Harrison Barnes, this guy has bust written all over him.
Dr Mufasa wrote:Alfred wrote:bboyskinnylegs wrote:He's a legit small forward, but the problem is he seems like more of a slashing, finishing type rather than a creator (kind of like DeMar, but he can shoot the ball pretty well too)... he hasn't looked like the type that's going to handle the ball a lot... so once again having an excellent PG that will create for everyone would be key.
So, a Marion-esque player?
Think he'll be closer to Thad Young
Double Helix wrote:Toronto's own Cory Joseph has flown up a couple of the mock drafts lately. Most seem to consider him the second best PG prospect behind Kyrie Irving.
Does anybody else feel like we might go for him a pick or two earlier than anybody else might due to the Toronto factor?
Would anybody be okay with that?
I'm kind of torn for a few reasons. If he weren't a local boy... I'm not sure I'm overly excited by what he's currently doing as an NCAA freshmen stats-wise. I also really like Bayless and want to give him a shot. Then again, I don't see a lot of franchise-altering talent at picks 7-10 at the moment and if that's the case I think I would be tempted to take a chance on our first local product. It's been 15 years and if he ends up being projected as one of the top 10 players in the draft across multiple mocks it's probably for good reason so it's not like it would be THAT much of a stretch. He's got the height that all the new PGs seem to have, a good outside shot, and he seems like the type of guy who'll continue to get better with time because he's smart. It would certainly make for a good story both here and down South and they'd be able to use him in some interesting ways as far as local charities go (Boys and Girls clubs, etc). Dare I say it... if he developed nicely we'd stand a good chance of keeping him long-term because he'd feel the love and realize how special the situation is to be a local Canadian star playing in Canada's only NBA market.
I wish this draft had more gems around the 7-10 spot but if it doesn't and Joseph continues to climb I don't think I'd be terribly upset with the idea of him being a Raptor. Under this scenario, he could develop behind Bayless for a bit and then eventually take over the lead spot with Bayless taking on a backup/6th man role on what would hopefully be a playoff bound team in a couple seasons.
Now, cue the talk of how we can "easily" trade down if that's what we want to do even though these trade-down scenarios don't seem to happen as much in reality as most seem to think.
It would suck to go through a season this bad without getting a franchise-altering player though. The NBA bottomfeeders are truly awful right now. I can't believe how many terrible teams there are just as bad or worse than us. You'd think we'd have a top 3 lock but no... There's plenty worse than even us.
anj wrote:Double Helix wrote:Toronto's own Cory Joseph has flown up a couple of the mock drafts lately. Most seem to consider him the second best PG prospect behind Kyrie Irving.
Does anybody else feel like we might go for him a pick or two earlier than anybody else might due to the Toronto factor?
Would anybody be okay with that?
I'm kind of torn for a few reasons. If he weren't a local boy... I'm not sure I'm overly excited by what he's currently doing as an NCAA freshmen stats-wise. I also really like Bayless and want to give him a shot. Then again, I don't see a lot of franchise-altering talent at picks 7-10 at the moment and if that's the case I think I would be tempted to take a chance on our first local product. It's been 15 years and if he ends up being projected as one of the top 10 players in the draft across multiple mocks it's probably for good reason so it's not like it would be THAT much of a stretch. He's got the height that all the new PGs seem to have, a good outside shot, and he seems like the type of guy who'll continue to get better with time because he's smart. It would certainly make for a good story both here and down South and they'd be able to use him in some interesting ways as far as local charities go (Boys and Girls clubs, etc). Dare I say it... if he developed nicely we'd stand a good chance of keeping him long-term because he'd feel the love and realize how special the situation is to be a local Canadian star playing in Canada's only NBA market.
I wish this draft had more gems around the 7-10 spot but if it doesn't and Joseph continues to climb I don't think I'd be terribly upset with the idea of him being a Raptor. Under this scenario, he could develop behind Bayless for a bit and then eventually take over the lead spot with Bayless taking on a backup/6th man role on what would hopefully be a playoff bound team in a couple seasons.
Now, cue the talk of how we can "easily" trade down if that's what we want to do even though these trade-down scenarios don't seem to happen as much in reality as most seem to think.
It would suck to go through a season this bad without getting a franchise-altering player though. The NBA bottomfeeders are truly awful right now. I can't believe how many terrible teams there are just as bad or worse than us. You'd think we'd have a top 3 lock but no... There's plenty worse than even us.
Honestly, DH, I don't see him declaring this year. His stock isn't as high as you make it out to be (DX has him listed at 51 on their list - and it was updated quite recently). He had a pretty rough 2-8 game yesterday, and he hasn't shown any true consistency yet.
Having said that, I wouldn't mind taking him with the Miami pick (if he declares). Otherwise, he should really stay in school and work on his game. Could be a lotto pick in 2012 if everything goes well for him.
fredericklove wrote:Rapsobsessed7 wrote:fredericklove wrote:
Feel sorry for that dude, the media praises him first now ripping him apart and into pieces, poor guy
i hope Barnes keeps struggling. If he does he slips and in no way are we in a position to pass up on him because we are in dire need of a SF and he will be someones steal of the draft. He isnt being used right. He will be fine in the NBA
Yeah, I believe whoever team ends up getting him will have trainers pinpoint what he needs to do to become better, he does have a hard work ethic thus I still believe he'll be something special in the NBA..still believe he's capable of doing these triple-threat moves in the NBA!!
Alfred wrote:I wouldn't mind taking Kemba Walker. He looks like he could be a combo guard in the mold of Gilbert Arenas or Monta Ellis, where yeah they take a lot of shots, but they are too good to keep the ball out of their hands. He also was a decent distributor last season when he had more talent on his team.
He's currently the best guard (or player) in the country.
Rude Boy 1 wrote:[
I'm starting to wonder if you guys actually watch basketball or do you just watch the youtube highlights of players from high school. Harrison Barnes has been nothing short of terrible, I have no idea why you guys would want him with a high lottery pick given his struggles thus far. Was he highly touted? yes has he failed to live up to the hype? Yes!
I don't know about you guys but to me the raptors don't need projects with high lottery picks, we have enough of those. At this point we need to grab the best player available not the most hyped player available.
Kyrie Irving
Terrence Jones
Perry Jones
Kemba Walker
Brandon Knight
Josh Selby
Chris Singleton
Jared Sullinger are guys I would easily select over Harrison Barnes right now and guys like
Enes Kanter
Jordan Hamilton
Nolan Smith
John Henson are on the bubble and I'm probably forgetting a few guys too.
Alfred wrote:I wouldn't mind taking Kemba Walker. He looks like he could be a combo guard in the mold of Gilbert Arenas or Monta Ellis, where yeah they take a lot of shots, but they are too good to keep the ball out of their hands. He also was a decent distributor last season when he had more talent on his team.
He's currently the best guard (or player) in the country.
