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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#16 » by sump » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:48 pm

ash_k wrote:
seraphim1982 wrote:
ash_k wrote:Again this is the trade to make !

To Toronto
Marcin Gortat
Dahntay Jones

To Indiana
Jose Calderon
Mikhael Pietrus

To Orlando
Troy Murphy

Everybody wins, Everybody!


Except us...
Bigger contract with a C, who can't run and is overrated, because he plays behind the best C in the East. Gortat does NOT fit this team, going forward with the Young Gunz


Extremely athletic Center, that runs the floor real well who averages 9rbs in 28 minutes, block shots, with a good touch and born in 84.
Would allow Bargs move to 4.
Still thinks Gortat does NOT fit??

P.S.Dahntay is just for salary cap purposes. (doesnt fit in Indiana, can be traded later as he was the defensive stopper for a highly competitive Denver team 2 years ago)


Still agree with seraphim who appears to be born in 82.
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#17 » by Ducksplatt » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:12 am

Cha/Tor
Not that BC is dying to deal with them again, but here is a deal where TO does not take back any salary (really):
Cha trade Dampier (waived) for Jose, Joey Dorsey (cut), D Jones (cut).

Works in the 125% rule (need to wait until Sept 14 for D Jones 60 days to expire).

Cha gets a PG, should get under the luxury tax
Tor gets out of Jose deal, clears cap space and a few roster spots.

Cha does take on long term salary, but MJ owes BC ;)
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#18 » by 7drizzy7drake7 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:03 am

To Toronto
Prince
Maxiell
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wilcox-(seperate deal)

To Detroit
Calderon
Maxiell
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Andersen-(seperate deal)

Detroit
Big Ben/Andersen
Monroe/Villanueva
Jerebko/ Daye
Gordon/Hamilton
Stuckey/Calderon

Toronto
Bargnani/Amir/Alabi
Ed Davis/Maxiell
Prince/Kleiza/Wright
Derozan/Weems
Jack/Barbosa/Brown
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#19 » by andog_22 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:53 pm

2 seperate deals to make this work

1)To Charlotte: Calderon

To Toronto: Mohammed & Augustin

2) To Charlotte: Evans

To Toronto: Carroll

Jack/Augustin/Banks
Derozan/Barbosa/Weems/Carroll
Kleiza/Wright
Bargs/Johnson/Davis
Mohammed/Andersen/Alabi

Get an expiring contract in Nazr and move bargs to PF and get a young back up PG.
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#20 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:45 pm

To tor. Diaw & Augustin

To cha. Calderon & Evans

Calderon would have to waive 500000 of his tk

Maybe throw in a Banks for Caroll swap in a separate deal

Jack / Augustin / Brown
Derozan / Barbosa
Klezia / Weems / Wright
Diaw / Davis / Andersen
Bargnani / Johnson / Alabi

Decent team
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#21 » by A roc 23 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:47 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:To tor. Diaw & Augustin

To cha. Calderon & Evans

Calderon would have to waive 500000 of his tk

Maybe throw in a Banks for Caroll swap in a separate deal

Jack / Augustin / Brown
Derozan / Barbosa
Klezia / Weems / Wright
Diaw / Davis / Andersen
Bargnani / Johnson / Alabi

Decent team


I like it. A Calderon for Diaw swap so the Raptors have an expirer a year earlier and a guy who might be a scenary change away from being a decent backup in Augustin.

Diaw fits in with the players and he can create. Augustin is still young and had a great rookie season, followed by a tight leash and a major drop off in his sophmore year. He's fast and has great handles and could turn into a great backup on this team. At least he'd be in his rightful place as a backup, whereas Calderon is paid too much and is too good to play only 18-20 minutes a game.
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#22 » by BobbyDhaliwal » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:00 am

Calderon + Evans for Prince
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#23 » by Ducksplatt » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:12 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:To tor. Diaw & Augustin

To cha. Calderon & Evans

Calderon would have to waive 500000 of his tk

Maybe throw in a Banks for Caroll swap in a separate deal

Jack / Augustin / Brown
Derozan / Barbosa
Klezia / Weems / Wright
Diaw / Davis / Andersen
Bargnani / Johnson / Alabi

Decent team


Would be great if we could trade Jose AND get Augustin. I think Diaw would fit well on the new raps.
Don't like the second part about Caroll. He's like a mini Kapono. I know we need 3 pt shooters but would not like to take on his contract.
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#24 » by WeThe2019Champs » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:05 am

This should work after sept 13....

Raptors Get - Ford (Pacers), Rudy F (Blazers), Przbilla (Blazers) & Boris (Bobcats)
Pacers Get - Evans (Raptors), Damp (Bobcats) & Banks (Raptors)
Blazers Get - Rush (Pacers), Foster (Pacers) & 7Mil (Raptors)
Bobcats Get - Jose (Raptors)

Jack/Barbosa/Ford
Rudy/DD/Weems
Diaw/Kleiza/Wright
Bargnani/Davis/Dorsey
Przbilla/Amir/Andersen

or

Raptors Get - Ford (Pacers), Foster (Pacers) & Boris (Bobcats)
Pacers Get - Evans (Raptors), Damp (Bobcats) & Banks (Raptors)
Bobcats Get - Jose (Raptors) & 9Mil (Raptors)

Jack/Barbosa/Ford
DD/Weems
Diaw/Kleiza/Wright
Bargnani/Davis/Dorsey
Foster/Amir/Andersen
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#25 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:11 pm

what i see happening.

2 separate deals.

1) Boris Diaw $9,000,000
D.J. Augustin $2,540,400

for

Jose Calderon $9,000,000
Joey Dorsey $854,389 (only 259,898 gauranteed)

2) Reggie Evans $5,080,000

for

Matt Carroll $4,300,000

Jarret Jack / Aj Augustin / Marcus Banks (never plays unless injury)
Demar Derozan / Lenadro Barbosa / Matt Carroll (Never plays)
Linas Klezia / Sonny Weems / Julian Wright (sees rare minutes)
Boris Diaw / Ed Davis / David Andersen (very rare minutes)
Andrea Bargnani / Amir Johnson / Solomon Alabi (too raw)
Canadafan wrote:Bojan Burks Stewart for Siakam.
2 expiring vets that help now. A young big to add to the Scottie timeline
I'd prefer to keep Stew and give Monte Morris
I'd really prefer to keep Morris and Stew and give the great Killian Hayes and 2nd round picks
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#26 » by douggood » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:18 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:what i see happening.

2 separate deals.

1) Boris Diaw $9,000,000
D.J. Augustin $2,540,400
for
Jose Calderon $9,000,000
Joey Dorsey $854,389 (only 259,898 gauranteed)

2) Reggie Evans $5,080,000
for
Matt Carroll $4,300,000


i dont like the 2nd part of the trade. calderon will have a bigger impact on the bobcats vs diaw on the raptors. if this is the trade i would rather hold on to calderon for another year and then with only 2 years left on his contract we will be able to trade him for an expiry. this charlotte trade this just seems to be making a trade for the sake of making a trade.
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#27 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:21 pm

i could see just the 1st part happening but Evans would need to go. Maybe in another deal or something but Carroll for Evans makes throwing in Augustin worth it to the Cats. I think if it was just the 1st part theyd want the miami pick too.

id love just a deal of.

Calderon + Evans for Augustin + Diaw

* i think the Miami pick gets thrown in here but thats just my opinion.

CHA waives Damp, gets under the tax by 3 million.

TOR waives Dorsey.

Jack / Augustin / Banks
Derozan / Barbosa
Klezia / Weems / Wright
Diaw / Davis / Andersen
Bargnani / Johnson / Alabi

Calderon / Livingston / Collins
Jackson / Henderson / Carroll
Wallace / Najera / Mcguire
Tyrus / Evans / Brown
Mohammad / Diop / C (signed for 2 million)
Canadafan wrote:Bojan Burks Stewart for Siakam.
2 expiring vets that help now. A young big to add to the Scottie timeline
I'd prefer to keep Stew and give Monte Morris
I'd really prefer to keep Morris and Stew and give the great Killian Hayes and 2nd round picks
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#28 » by TorontosGM » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:13 pm

Calderon for Diaw

Evans for Najera

that way we get more 2012 expiring contracts.

or.

To Raps: Diaw, Augustin

To Clips: Calderon, Evans

To Cats: Bdiddy + Miami pick
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#29 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:09 pm

3 way deal.

Toronto out
Jose C
D.Anderson
TPE (separate deal for Najera)

Toronto in
M.Dunleavy
DJ Augustin
E.Najera

Raps get a young dynamic pg in DJ, someone who can create from the wing in Dunleavy and the price we have to pay to pry DJ away. Dunleavy is also a 10 mill expiring.

Charlotte out
B. Diaw
DJ. Augustin
E.Najera

Charlotte in
Jose Calderon
D.Anderson
TPE (separate deal for Najera)

Bobcats get the pg they need, a back up big that can stretch the floor who is also has an unguaranteed deal next year and a TPE. This allows the Kitties to use the dust chip and get out of luxury tax .

Indiana out
Dunleavy

Indiana in
Diaw
Future Charlotte 2nd rd pick

Pacers get a stretch four that replaces Murphy which allows them to compete for a playoff spot this year.

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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#30 » by juror1 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:14 pm

CHA/TOR

To Toronto: DJ Augustin and Erick Dampier
To Charlotte: Evans, Alabi, Calderon, Julian Wright
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#31 » by Snooch » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:01 pm

for giggles:

Atlanta trades:
Bibby, Marvin Williams, 2011 first

gets:
Jose, Dorsey, Miami 2011 first

Atlanta moves Bibby for a better offensive fit for them come playoff time in Jose, Move the often disappointing Williams. Allows Smith to move to SF without having alot of money tied up in the backup. Move saves them roughly 6 million dollars instantly allowing them to sign another big.


Charlotte trades:
Diaw, 2011 first

gets:
Bibby, TPE for Daiw 9 million dollars from Toronto

Charlotte gains a legit starting pg and saves some money instantly and next season as well(about 9 million total) Cost of saving is their pick

Toronto trades:
Jose, Dorsey, Miami first, TPE

gets:
Marvin Williams, Diaw, Charlotte first, Atlanta first

Toronto adds a bit of talent and another 2012 expring. the picks will give the raps 3 in the first round next season while maintaining all current expirings(Anderson, Wright, Banks, Evans) and should be in a solid positoin to either move up or down in draft.

Jack/Barbosa/Banks
Demar/Weems/Wright
Williams/Kleiza/Diaw
Amir/Diaw/Anderson
Bargs/Davis/Alabi
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#32 » by NH » Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:34 am

3 Way Trade:

Toronto Trades:
Jose Calderon
Reggie Evans
Miami 1st round pick

Gets back: Joel Pryzbilla, Rudy Fernandez

Portland Trades:
Andre Miller
Joel Pryzbilla
Rudy Fernandez

Gets back: Jose Calderon, Diaw, Dampier Miami 1st round pick

Charlotte Trades:
Boris Diaw
Dampier

Gets back: Andrew Miller, Reggie Evans

Analysis: Charlotte may prefer a more vet savy pg over Jose, so they get Andrew Miller and Reggie Evans intead, who may be good players for Larry Brown to make a push for the playoffs. Portland gets Jose who is a bit younger than Andre. Jose is also very good off the ball, yet can make plays for Brandon Roy and co. His poor defense can also be masked by Oden and Alridge. Toronto gets Rudy Fernandez as a nice young SG who is finally freed from Portland's structure. He is what Marco B should have been. Joel Pryz is a good back up C.
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#33 » by TorontosGM » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:27 am

Calderon, Andersen to CHA

Gortat to TOR

Diaw to ORL

ORL gets a starting caliber PF that would fit nicely in their lineup.

Gortat gets to start in TO

CHA gets a backup PF and a PG for Diaw.

then

Evans + Dorsey to DAL

Stevenson + Berea to TOR

Jack - Berea - Banks
Derozan - Barbosa - Stevenson
Klezia - Weems - Wright
Bargnani - Davis - Andersen
Gortat - Johnson - Alabi
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#34 » by John Stockton » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:06 am

Ak47 + Price for Reggie + Banks + Jose + Miami's pick?

Unsure if Miami's pick would have to be involved but it increases our expiring. Also, Gaines and Price could we swapped.

Jack.Barbosa.Price
DD.Weems
Ak-47.Kleiza
Amir.Davis
Bargnani.Anderson

Where Andrei plays both forward positions.
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Re: Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#35 » by bballsparkin » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:50 am

I don't get how someone with John Stokton as their avatar and username could create such a lousy trade for Utah. But I'll gladly take it.

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