jimmy keys wrote:Mikistan wrote:jimmy keys wrote:
yeah I'd much have Fred Van Vleet thinking he's the superstar .
That's finals MVP candidate and vote-getter Fred Van Vleet to you.
That one vote went straight to his head . Seriously though FVV & Siakam owe a lot to Kawhi and the championship run. No way they get the contracts they have/will sign without that chip. If they got knocked out in round 2 in 2019 is Van Vleet signing a Brogdon like deal? No chance. Same with Siakam the chip directly lead to a max deal. No way he gets offered a max a year in advance without that run.
Look i didn't love the Siakam deal - but the thing about max deals is that you need max guys or percieved max value guys to trade for other max value guys. Demar got that almost supermax deal, and even if he didnt deserve it because of defense etc, he still had that percieved perenniel all-star value.
With Pascal, he scored 31 in a finals game, won a ring as the 2/3 option night-in-and-out and Masai had to create a max contract value guy on our books. Pascal isnt as bad on D as Demar and at least has length and motor to always give us something there.
FVV - he was close to a 6man of the year candidate the year before as well as the kawhi year, and this year he started all 54 of hisregular season games and put up 17.6 ppg/ 3.8 rpg/ 6.6 apg, and 1.9 spg with 2.2 turnovers, shooting 39% from 3pt on 6.9 attempts per game with a 21% usage.
Im sorry but that stat line as a starter gets your Brogdon money. Yes.
For example Brogdon with less success than FVV in the playoffs ... averaged in MIL as a 64 game starter ---- 15.6 ppg/ 4.5 rpg. 3.2apg and 0.7 stls on 1.4 turnovers shooting 42.6% from 3pt on 3.8 attempts. on 20% usage
FVV's stats are arguably even if not better than MIL Brogdon before his contract and even if not better again for IND Brogdon.
FVV's shooting isnt great from 2pt range yes, but his defense is outright better and deserves value, he was in top 5 steals per game in the league like all year...