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2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1721 » by mtcan » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:26 pm

Supermann98 wrote:Shams saying we're still in on Simmons, God I hope not

I'm against Simmons on the Raptors if he continues to be stubborn and refuse to shoot.

I'm against a Simmons trade if OG and/or Pascal is involved.

If all it costs is Fred, Malachi and Boucher and 2 picks...I'm a little less against it.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1722 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:25 am

Simmons lost his appeal to me when I realized he's right handed in everything besides shooting.

He's using his non dominant hand to shoot, can't fix that easily.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1724 » by Saul Goodman » Wed Sep 1, 2021 2:45 am

If Masai can swindle a Kawhi type deal for Simmons i wouldn’t be totally opposed.


Fred
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Dragic/Trent/OG/pascal/Simmons Flynn/Barnes/Prescious


It would need work but the defensive potential could be legendary.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1725 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 2:04 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:If Masai can swindle a Kawhi type deal for Simmons i wouldn’t be totally opposed.


Fred
Boucher
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Play completely positionless



Dragic/Trent/OG/pascal/Simmons Flynn/Barnes/Prescious


It would need work but the defensive potential could be legendary.


Fred would be the best player that the 76ers be getting because no-one is looking to give up anyone important for Simmons lol.

Wolves - don't want to part with Edwards, Russell, or Towns. although Edwards should be considered if the Wolves really want to contend (or Russell)

Kings - don't want to part with Haliburton or Fox. Haliburton overrated if the Kings don't want to move him for Simmons.

I would definitely trade FVV to see that lineup though - but I have a feeling that the Raptors would be worse off offensively - but hey - Simmons in a new environment, better coach - could be a key factor in his career. I have full faith that the Raptors could turn and churn out his potential. not to hate on FVV but Simmons' potential overall is much greater than FVV - so I would take that risk.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1726 » by nikster » Thu Sep 2, 2021 1:37 am

mtcan wrote:
Supermann98 wrote:Shams saying we're still in on Simmons, God I hope not

I'm against Simmons on the Raptors if he continues to be stubborn and refuse to shoot.

I'm against a Simmons trade if OG and/or Pascal is involved.

If all it costs is Fred, Malachi and Boucher and 2 picks...I'm a little less against it.

Id take that trade, dont love the idea of Simmons but I would love that defense. Combo Simmons/OG/Barnes/Siakam/ would be a terrifying combo.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1727 » by Mikistan » Thu Sep 2, 2021 12:22 pm

Don't want Simmons
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1728 » by grimlock » Thu Sep 2, 2021 1:32 pm

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Supermann98 wrote:Shams saying we're still in on Simmons, God I hope not

I'm against Simmons on the Raptors if he continues to be stubborn and refuse to shoot.

I'm against a Simmons trade if OG and/or Pascal is involved.

If all it costs is Fred, Malachi and Boucher and 2 picks...I'm a little less against it.

Id take that trade, dont love the idea of Simmons but I would love that defense. Combo Simmons/OG/Barnes/Siakam/ would be a terrifying combo.



Everyone keeps talking about this lineup. The only scary thing is the defence. Offence would be a total nightmare. Whos doing a pick and roll in this lineup? whos breaking down the first man and taking it to the hole to collapse defences. Whos taking the 3 point shot if we do OG 90% of the time? Don't even want to entertain that bum
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Post#1730 » by TorontoRapsFan » Thu Sep 2, 2021 10:19 pm

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1731 » by gha4life » Thu Sep 2, 2021 11:57 pm

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Ya I don’t get the narrative.

Beasley and Edwards for Simmons with Edward’s parlayed to a rebuilding team for a veteran starter.


Well the Wolves don’t won’t to give up Towns, Edwards or Russell so what do they actually have after that? Not much. The easiest trade for both teams would be Russell and pieces for Simmons. 76ers get their allstar and additional assets. Wolves get their guy that can transform their defence. The only reason this won’t happen is because Russell is Towns’ boy.


I thought Russell would be an all-star coming out of college because he had so much skill already at Ohio State (looked to be a really great flashy passer and 40% 3pt guy, it just hasn't translated) but his lack of defense and his ball stopping style just seem to have him written off by a lot of people. I wouldn't be 100% sure he wouldn't get benched in a tough playoff series for Curry's shooting or a developing Tyrese Maxey.

In theory, something like Russell and a 1st from Minny to Philly, Simmons to Minnesota and then a Minnesota firsts and Okogie to say OKC for Lu Dort (or any similar Minny pick and player to a rebuilding team for a wing who can start at the 3 for Philly) makes sense. But in practice, I'm not sure Philly would trust Russell for their title hopes over a guy like McCollum even though he's younger.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1733 » by Westside Gunn » Tue Sep 7, 2021 1:23 am

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1734 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Sep 7, 2021 3:11 pm

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1737 » by tecumseh18 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:56 am

TLC signs a non-guaranteed contract with Atlanta? I've always been under the impression that he could be pretty decent.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1738 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:00 pm

lol Okafor sucks. he plays 0 defense.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1739 » by Dalek » Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:33 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:TLC signs a non-guaranteed contract with Atlanta? I've always been under the impression that he could be pretty decent.


I also thought this guy is not that bad to have as a bench player, only 26 and can shoot and defend. He did take a step back last year and was kind of the weak link in the Brooklyn rotation. My guess is if you are any type of fringe rotation piece you better be able to shoot it well and TLC is not that reliable. I just think it is weird Brooklyn opted for Bembry over TLC. Bembry must be considered a better defender but I haven't dug into that.

Toronto got Svi Michaluk on a partially guaranteed deal. He has a bit better shooting track record and is younger than TLC so I think we didn't miss out.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1740 » by LarSiN » Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:28 pm

TLC is not great, he had SO may chances last year, and is already 26. I'd take Bembry too if I were them
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