That's why I only signed a three year deal

Sloanfeld · Post #1 » by **Sloanfeld** » Wed Jul 7, 2010 10:55 pm

So you think D-Will will be all upset that Boozer is gone or not really since he's not best buddies with him like he was with Brewer? That was quite a sharp reaction for not losing much. Let's see what he says this time.

CAE15 · Post #2 » by **CAE15** » Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:02 pm

I don't think Deron will have a whole lot to say until we know the roster going into preseason or the very least training camp.

The Sheik · Post #3 » by **The Sheik** » Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:06 pm

What was Deron's reaction over last summer? Trade him...not to mention he is Paul Millsap's biggest supporter and Paul is one of his best friends. I dont think he freaks out that much, Deron only cares about winning and Im not sure that was Carlos' #1 objective all the time.

Sloanfeld · Post #4 » by **Sloanfeld** » Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:10 pm

The Sheik wrote:Deron only cares about winning and Im not sure that was Carlos' #1 objective all the time.

Yeah D-Will could care less about money. All about winning. But Boozer could care less about winning, only money. Right?

QuantumMacgyver · Post #5 » by **QuantumMacgyver** » Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:18 pm

Sloanfeld wrote:
The Sheik wrote:Deron only cares about winning and Im not sure that was Carlos' #1 objective all the time.

Yeah D-Will could care less about money. All about winning. But Boozer could care less about winning, only money. Right?

Boozer put himself in this situation. He has established a well-known motivation for money. I think a lot of people are too hard on him, just like a lot of people are too blind to his actions and words.

Boozer= Great Offense and Rebounding, Very Poor D, and a Constant Supply of Drama either good or bad.

The59Sound · Post #6 » by **The59Sound** » Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:32 pm

Think Quantum got it right there.

GP · Post #7 » by GP » Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:55 pm

The Sheik wrote:What was Deron's reaction over last summer? Trade him...not to mention he is Paul Millsap's biggest supporter and Paul is one of his best friends. I dont think he freaks out that much, Deron only cares about winning and Im not sure that was Carlos' #1 objective all the time.

Sloanfeld is right, this is the reason DW, Lebron, Bosh, DWade and all those stars signed 3 yr deals, to see if their teams were dedicated to winning. IF they are, they can sign for more money, if not, then they leave. I guarantee DW doesn't want to play for a "competitive" team, but a contender.

Post #8 » by **StocktonShorts** » Wed Jul 7, 2010 11:57 pm

GP wrote:Interestingly he just signed with a promising, young, bull team for LESS money than if he returned to the Jazz.

Fact check: Jazz reportedly had opportunity to best the Bulls offer and opted not to.

GP · Post #9 » by GP » Thu Jul 8, 2010 12:11 am

HappyProle wrote:
GP wrote:Interestingly he just signed with a promising, young, bull team for LESS money than if he returned to the Jazz.

Fact check: Jazz reportedly had opportunity to best the Bulls offer and opted not to.

Damn you and your facts.

hoops4life · Post #10 » by **hoops4life** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 12:22 am

HappyProle wrote:Fact... reportedly...

Those two don't really go together.

Post #11 » by **StocktonShorts** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 1:38 am

hoops4life wrote:
HappyProle wrote:Fact... reportedly...

Those two don't really go together.

Depends on how credible the source is. If it's coming from Siler I tend to believe it. But yeah, you're right... reported info != fact

gojazzmjsucks · Post #12 » by **gojazzmjsucks** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 2:33 am

I think its fact they said they were going with Milsap before last year!

outerspacefella · Post #13 » by **outerspacefella** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 2:46 am

Sloanfeld wrote:
The Sheik wrote:Deron only cares about winning and Im not sure that was Carlos' #1 objective all the time.

Yeah D-Will could care less about money. All about winning. But Boozer could care less about winning, only money. Right?

Did D-Will (to cash :wink:

) let go a couple bones here and there to better the chances to round his roster?

outerspacefella · Post #14 » by **outerspacefella** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 2:48 am

Did anyone have a legit doubt about Boozer going elsewhere?

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #15 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 2:49 am

It's ok, we will just bring back Brewer to cheer him up.

McNutty · Post #16 » by **McNutty** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 3:12 pm

outerspacefella wrote:Did anyone have a legit doubt about Boozer going elsewhere?

I don't think that any of us are surprised that he left, but we were holding out hope for a sign-and-trade. Boozer was basically out the door last summer, it just took a while to develop.

ADWCTA · Post #17 » by **ADWCTA** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 3:55 pm

He's got 2 more years.
Losing Boozer won't piss Deron off enough that he'll hold a grudge for that long. It's what we do with that trade exception and most importantly what we do next offseason w/ the CBA and AK's contract coming off the books, whether Hayward becomes a rotation player in 2 years.... that's what Deron's looking at.

This will have almost no impact in the big picture on Deron's decision.

BiggMann · Post #18 » by **BiggMann** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 4:23 pm

HappyProle wrote:
GP wrote:Interestingly he just signed with a promising, young, bull team for LESS money than if he returned to the Jazz.

Fact check: Jazz reportedly had opportunity to best the Bulls offer and opted not to.

Which was a great call.. .Boozer wasn't worth the 5 yr 68mil deal we gave him... Now he's getting a raise?!?!? Chicago overpaid, and the front office wont put themselves in that position. Booze is not worth 16 mil per/. we should be able to find some replacements, and with AK's contract situation we have some flexablity this and next off season.

Post #19 » by **StocktonShorts** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 4:43 pm

BiggMann wrote:
HappyProle wrote:
GP wrote:Interestingly he just signed with a promising, young, bull team for LESS money than if he returned to the Jazz.

Fact check: Jazz reportedly had opportunity to best the Bulls offer and opted not to.

Which was a great call.. .Boozer wasn't worth the 5 yr 68mil deal we gave him... Now he's getting a raise?!?!? Chicago overpaid, and the front office wont put themselves in that position. Booze is not worth 16 mil per/. we should be able to find some replacements, and with AK's contract situation we have some flexablity this and next off season.

Just to be clear: I'm not making a judgment on the Jazz's decision, I just wanted to defend Carlos Boozer's decision. I don't think this was a case of Boozer spurning the Jazz or Utah in general to play somewhere else for similar money. I think he took the best offer he got.

I think Boozer is going to be unfairly demonized in the next few years by Jazz fans, especially if he and the Bulls do really well, for leaving the Jazz.

DByrne86 · Post #20 » by **DByrne86** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 8:10 pm

I honestly don't think Deron liked Boozer and his lack of heart. That's the impression I always got.