BJSmiles wrote:jazzfan1971 wrote:No. You are ignoring some basic things about potential.
Size.
Age.
Athleticism.
If Jimmer was 6'5" and 19yo I'd be fine wiht that equivalency. But, he's 6'2" and 23 years old allready. And where Kanter and Favors are struggling to get minutes behind guys like Millsap and Jefferson, Jimmer is struggling to get minutes behind Isiah Thomas AKA the last pick in the 2nd round last year.
Lets keep it real here.
OK, Kanter is young, he wins that one. He isn't necessarily very tall or athletic. You know there are plenty of people in the league that are already claiming Kanter to be a bust based on last years rookie season and summer league regardless of his struggle for minutes, right? There are also those that would say that an overall 3rd pick should have unseated an undersized 47th overall pick by now as well.
Again, I'm not saying he is not a bust, but I'm saying it's not fair to label him that this early in his career. I'm not even a BYU or Jimmer fan, just like the idea of a local guy doing well.
Well, I'm not ready to call Kanter a bust, but I do think his size and lack of athleticism severely limit his potential. The thing is, there are other bigs in the league lacking in explosiveness that have done well. And he can defend at his position, we've seen it. Plus he's got an NBA skill all ready, rebounding.
I think he can carve out a career. I don't think Kanter will be a star, but, based on what I've seen so far I think he can have a journeyman type career.
Jimmer also has an NBA level talent, shooting. But, unlike Kanter, Jimmer's talent didn't translate very well as a rookie shooting 38%. So, even Jimmer's very best talent, the one he hangs his hat on, was quite poor his first season. Kanter's adjusted rebounding numbers were actually impressive on the other hand.
Kanter can defend his position. Kanter has a position. You can't say the same thing for Jimmer. Jimmer can't defend, we're not sure if he's a PG or SG, and his handle is so poor he wilts to ball pressure.
So, while I see Kanter panning out to have a nice NBA career as a Journeyman level center. I don't see much beyond backup PG or SG for Jimmer. And that's only if he can develop his game a bit, especially his defense and his NBA skill, shooting, gets up to a level you'd anticipate from him based on his college career.
"Thibs called back and wanted more picks," said Jorge Sedano. "And Pat Riley, literally, I was told, called him a mother-bleeper and hung up the phone."
