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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#241 » by Inigo Montoya » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:42 pm

red4hf wrote:What teams actually have the assets to make a legit offer for Laurie? I don't think there's that many.......

Off the top of my head, Spurs, Rockets, OKC come to mind.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#242 » by Cappy_Smurf » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:57 pm

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Great time. We already had the Ricky Rubio experience and overpaid for him… Thanks Dennis

I didn't mind Rubio. I think he was the least of the Jazz's issues.


I liked Rubio and don’t think he was the issue but doesn’t change my point of we overpaid for him.


Utah is a team that has 2 choices when it comes to FA: Overpay or watch them go elsewhere and sign a lesser player because you didn't want to overpay. Utah is not and never has been in a position to play hard ball with players that can choose to play elsewhere.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#243 » by bkohler » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:08 am

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red4hf wrote:What teams actually have the assets to make a legit offer for Laurie? I don't think there's that many.......

Off the top of my head, Spurs, Rockets, OKC come to mind.


I think the Rockets make the most sense. They’re desperate, have good young pieces and blue chip picks.

Jabari, Shepard and 3-4 FRP is my guess.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#244 » by red4hf » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:39 am

bkohler wrote:
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red4hf wrote:What teams actually have the assets to make a legit offer for Laurie? I don't think there's that many.......

Off the top of my head, Spurs, Rockets, OKC come to mind.


I think the Rockets make the most sense. They’re desperate, have good young pieces and blue chip picks.

Jabari, Shepard and 3-4 FRP is my guess.


I don't think Laurie fits the Spurs' timeline, the Thunder don't really have anyone Jazz would be interested in (they are not giving up Williams) and their picks are not that good, Rockets on the other hand might be interesting,, but they gave up the best trade pieces they had in the Brooklyn picks.......
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#245 » by AingesBurner » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:22 am

No team has Lauri assets. You don’t trade a $1 for quarters hoping they turn out to be a dollar. We are doing the 2000’s Celtics rebuild. Difference is we have a ton of assets so we can keep some of our young players.
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Post#246 » by WinterSoldier » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:29 am

AingesBurner wrote:No team has Lauri assets. You don’t trade a $1 for quarters hoping they turn out to be a dollar. We are doing the 2000’s Celtics rebuild. Difference is we have a ton of assets so we can keep some of our young players.


I think your confusing Lauri with Luka. You can never get enough assets to return full value of a top 3 player, Lauri is an awesome player to have but he is replaceable.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#247 » by AingesBurner » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:35 am

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AingesBurner wrote:No team has Lauri assets. You don’t trade a $1 for quarters hoping they turn out to be a dollar. We are doing the 2000’s Celtics rebuild. Difference is we have a ton of assets so we can keep some of our young players.


I think your confusing Lauri with Luka. You can never get enough assets to return full value of a top 3 player, Lauri is an awesome player to have but he is replaceable.


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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#248 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:12 pm

red4hf wrote:
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Inigo Montoya wrote:Off the top of my head, Spurs, Rockets, OKC come to mind.


I think the Rockets make the most sense. They’re desperate, have good young pieces and blue chip picks.

Jabari, Shepard and 3-4 FRP is my guess.


I don't think Laurie fits the Spurs' timeline, the Thunder don't really have anyone Jazz would be interested in (they are not giving up Williams) and their picks are not that good, Rockets on the other hand might be interesting,, but they gave up the best trade pieces they had in the Brooklyn picks.......

Word is that the Spurs are looking to be good right away and not do a slow rebuild around Wemby, so they will look for trades to get significantly better as soon as this offseason, so Markkanen actually would fit their timeline.

As for OKC, I agree it's unlikely they'll be willing to part with either of SGA, Chet or Williams but in terms of assets they do have what it takes, and eventually they will have to move one of them. They couldn't afford to keep Westbrook-Harden-Durant and they won't be able to keep SGA-Chet-Williams + another star under much stricter and punishing CBA, so if they are serious about winning a ring they should at least consider moving one of them.

You're right about the Rockets, it is a shame they gave up those Nets picks, but they got the Suns picks and those are just as valuable so they can still offer a compelling package.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#249 » by Inigo Montoya » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:16 pm

Jazz Will Listen To Offers For Lauri Markkanen
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276368/Jazz-Will-Listen-To-Offers-For-Lauri-Markkanen

Woj reveals that the Jazz did try to go 'big game hunting' by trying to get Bridges.
The Jazz were aggressively pursuing trades for Mikal Bridges, before he was traded to the New York Knicks. Now, Utah may pivot towards continuing a rebuild.


Wojnarowski indicated it would take a massive offer for a team to acquire Markkanen. The Jazz aren't necessarily shopping their All-Star forward, but could move him if blown away with a trade package.
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KqWIN wrote:Why are we talking about Middleton, Harris, and Porter?

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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#250 » by AingesBurner » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:40 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:Jazz Will Listen To Offers For Lauri Markkanen
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/276368/Jazz-Will-Listen-To-Offers-For-Lauri-Markkanen

Woj reveals that the Jazz did try to go 'big game hunting' by trying to get Bridges.
The Jazz were aggressively pursuing trades for Mikal Bridges, before he was traded to the New York Knicks. Now, Utah may pivot towards continuing a rebuild.


Wojnarowski indicated it would take a massive offer for a team to acquire Markkanen. The Jazz aren't necessarily shopping their All-Star forward, but could move him if blown away with a trade package.


Blown away is more than the Mikal package. OKC would have to give up their own picks plus the best ones owed to them. Houston has some interesting assets as well. I still think we are taking the 2000s C’s route. Lauri is our Truth.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#251 » by AingesBurner » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:41 pm

Calling it now: Devin Booker to Utah in 2025.
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Post#253 » by Jampod » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:47 pm

The Jazz can R & E Markkannen beginning August 7th. If we do, he can’t be traded for six months. I’m gonna be aggressively checking twitter until then smh.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#254 » by babyjax13 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:24 am

The moment we know George is gone from the Clippers we should trade Lauri to Philly to get the Clippers picks they own. Those are absolute gold, and we aren't going anywhere in the West as it is for at least 3 years. Every team but us has improved substantially so far this offseason, but the Clippers may end up the exception once free agency is done. I love Lauri, he is great, but I want a championship and he can't be the best player on a contender.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#255 » by AGE1207 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:03 am

babyjax13 wrote:The moment we know George is gone from the Clippers we should trade Lauri to Philly to get the Clippers picks they own. Those are absolute gold, and we aren't going anywhere in the West as it is for at least 3 years. Every team but us has improved substantially so far this offseason, but the Clippers may end up the exception once free agency is done. I love Lauri, he is great, but I want a championship and he can't be the best player on a contender.


In order to get a championship, you probably need 2-3 All Stars. We have 1(!) currently, we already have 6 “rookies” on the team, most of which can only become good role players at best and we already have plenty of picks going forward. Trading away our 1 All Star for additional picks makes no sense to me therefore.
If we trade him, it would have to be for another All Star minimum but even then, I am not convinced we would be better off.
Markannen is great and likes playing for the Jazz. I suggest we keep him and we go “all in” into next season’s draft.
To me, that sounds like the most logical way forward.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#256 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:57 pm

The Clippers don't have any promising young talent to give so that makes a trade with them a bit iffy.
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#257 » by AingesBurner » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:37 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:The Clippers don't have any promising young talent to give so that makes a trade with them a bit iffy.


I’m assuming he means Philly and their available picks suck!
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Re: 2024 Trade Rumors 

Post#258 » by AingesBurner » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:38 pm

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babyjax13 wrote:The moment we know George is gone from the Clippers we should trade Lauri to Philly to get the Clippers picks they own. Those are absolute gold, and we aren't going anywhere in the West as it is for at least 3 years. Every team but us has improved substantially so far this offseason, but the Clippers may end up the exception once free agency is done. I love Lauri, he is great, but I want a championship and he can't be the best player on a contender.


In order to get a championship, you probably need 2-3 All Stars. We have 1(!) currently, we already have 6 “rookies” on the team, most of which can only become good role players at best and we already have plenty of picks going forward. Trading away our 1 All Star for additional picks makes no sense to me therefore.
If we trade him, it would have to be for another All Star minimum but even then, I am not convinced we would be better off.
Markannen is great and likes playing for the Jazz. I suggest we keep him and we go “all in” into next season’s draft.
To me, that sounds like the most logical way forward.


Thank you!!!!!!!!!! We are following the 2000s Celtics route.
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Post#259 » by Jampod » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:58 pm

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Post#260 » by ForeverRDjazz » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:00 pm

I think when you bring these young men up together they'r more likely to create bonds and want to stay together and win? Good old days. Love Lauri but if the right deal is on the table you'll have to pull the trigger.

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