2019 Utah Jazz Off Season Thread

[LewisnotMiller]

Celts fan here, but love Joe Ingles, so wishing you the best...at least in most games.
Anyone able to summarise what space/exceptions you guys have left?
Great offseason, you just need a decent stopgap 4 to round things out, it seems.

Unless we do something funky with the Conley trade to try to keep us over the cap, it seems like we are out of exceptions so we down to just minimum vet contracts.

Makes it tough. I like Morris as a fit, but he's more starter money likely.

[pickIBL]

I want schroder now

[ForeverRDjazz]

I want schroder now

As a Player Dennis would be awesome. Not sure how his personality would fit in?

[SoCalJazzFan]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/western-conference-rankings-clippers-lakers-jazz-nba-081007646.html

Being projected at #2 is a bit surprising, but having home court in the playoffs is not a stretch at all. I'm not sure what will happen in a year or two, which concerns me a bit, but you can't give the Jazz anything other than an A for this offseason. Next season should be fun.

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We still have not completed the Favors and Bogdanovic transactions... I wonder if they are trying to do something extracurricular...

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Read on Twitter

[AingesBurner]

We still have not completed the Favors and Bogdanovic transactions... I wonder if they are trying to do something extracurricular...

How would that work?

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We still have not completed the Favors and Bogdanovic transactions... I wonder if they are trying to do something extracurricular...

How would that work?

I don't know... they might be waiting to include those in some trades with a third party or something...

[AingesBurner]

We still have not completed the Favors and Bogdanovic transactions... I wonder if they are trying to do something extracurricular...

How would that work?

I don't know... they might be waiting to include those in some trades with a third party or something...

Interesting.

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27143232/winners-losers-wildest-nba-week-ever

We made Lowe's 'tentative winners' list... Yay? I guess? :

Tentative winners: Small-market teams spurned by star wings from the 2010 draft
The Utah Jazz are loaded after trading for Conley and splurging on Bojan Bogdanovic -- a last-minute pivot after Nikola Mirotic spurned them. Jeff Green and Ed Davis bring needed depth.

Utah will miss Derrick Favors. An injury to Green or Davis would bring more danger than it should. But the Jazz will be really hard to guard with four shooters around Gobert and two ball handlers who can score from anywhere, in Conley and Mitchell.

In the past, Quin Snyder leaned on complex motion to mask a lack of go-go talent. The Jazz can simplify now and run more classic spread pick-and-roll around Gobert. They remind of the peak Dwight Howard-era Magic, down to Gobert grabbing enough offensive rebounds on his own to mimic the effect of a normal team having two or even three guys crash the glass.

Gobert faces a huge burden on defense, but is it really so much bigger with Bogdanovic as small-ball power forward than with Jae Crowder? Gobert is back-to-back Defensive Player of the Year. It's his job to handle that burden.

Utah can make the Finals, but I'm a tick lower on the Jazz than the consensus. They don't feel soft, exactly. Maybe lacking in force? Compare them to last season's Philadelphia 76ers, who overwhelmed opponents -- and unnerved the champion Toronto Raptors -- with sheer size and athleticism. Even Conley doesn't scare you in that sense. He's fast, but he's barely 6-foot-1; he beats you with craft. Gobert is not as powerful or coordinated rolling to the rim as peak Howard.

Which projected starter is defending huge alpha wing scorers like LeBron, George and Leonard? What about James Harden? That job fell mostly to Ricky Rubio in last season's playoffs.

Dante Exum and Royce O'Neale figure into those questions. They bring some of that missing oomph. But will Utah be able to score enough against elite defenses with one or both on the floor? Bogdanovic is 30; that four-year, $73 million deal may not age well.

Lowe is right though... we lack athleticism. IMO we should be looking to add athletic wing/forward type either through FA/trade or through the draft next summer. Hopefully Brantley is part of the solution too...

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Here's video of the presentation of Bojan and Conley:

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The Jazz media department are seriously dropping the ball with their coverage of the team this summer. Complete and utter failure in covering the draft, couldn't even show the press-conference introducing the draft picks. Now the same with the presentation of the new additions of the off-season.

[babyjax13]

An OKC fan and I talked about it and I think it could make some sense:

Dante
Bradley
2020 2nd
for
Roberson
PPat

We get an elite perimeter defender (if he is healthy) or just drop Dante's salary next year + a bigger power forward that still hits the three, even if he isn't as good anymore.

[AingesBurner]

An OKC fan and I talked about it and I think it could make some sense:

Dante
Bradley
2020 2nd
for
Roberson
PPat

We get an elite perimeter defender (if he is healthy) or just drop Dante's salary next year + a bigger power forward that still hits the three, even if he isn't as good anymore.

I’d rather recoup value, chances are Mudiay could be an Exum replacement.

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An OKC fan and I talked about it and I think it could make some sense:

Dante
Bradley
2020 2nd
for
Roberson
PPat

We get an elite perimeter defender (if he is healthy) or just drop Dante's salary next year + a bigger power forward that still hits the three, even if he isn't as good anymore.

I would pass. I don't trust Roberson any more than Exum to stay healthy and I think if both are healthy they are equal defensively but I like what Exum brings to the table more on offense. We can find a guy like Patterson for free on the open market.

[babyjax13]

An OKC fan and I talked about it and I think it could make some sense:

Dante
Bradley
2020 2nd
for
Roberson
PPat

We get an elite perimeter defender (if he is healthy) or just drop Dante's salary next year + a bigger power forward that still hits the three, even if he isn't as good anymore.

I would pass. I don't trust Roberson any more than Exum to stay healthy and I think if both are healthy they are equal defensively but I like what Exum brings to the table more on offense. We can find a guy like Patterson for free on the open market.

Roberson was the best perimeter defender in the league prior to his injury.

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An OKC fan and I talked about it and I think it could make some sense:

Dante
Bradley
2020 2nd
for
Roberson
PPat

We get an elite perimeter defender (if he is healthy) or just drop Dante's salary next year + a bigger power forward that still hits the three, even if he isn't as good anymore.

I would pass. I don't trust Roberson any more than Exum to stay healthy and I think if both are healthy they are equal defensively but I like what Exum brings to the table more on offense. We can find a guy like Patterson for free on the open market.

Roberson was the best perimeter defender in the league prior to his injury.

He was definitely a great perimeter defender but I felt Exum was pretty close. His knee issue is a huge red flag to me. Exum has similar red flags as well but I like his upside better.

[babyjax13]

I would pass. I don't trust Roberson any more than Exum to stay healthy and I think if both are healthy they are equal defensively but I like what Exum brings to the table more on offense. We can find a guy like Patterson for free on the open market.

Roberson was the best perimeter defender in the league prior to his injury.

He was definitely a great perimeter defender but I felt Exum was pretty close. His knee issue is a huge red flag to me. Exum has similar red flags as well but I like his upside better.

To be honest, I'd dump Dante for any expiring contract, and if we can get a decent player out of it, that's a win. If we did this, and Conley opted for a smaller contract over more time (like Horford did), we could be looking at about $17 million in cap space. We'd have to resign Royce, but we could likely do that after using the $17 million. If we are close to being a contender this year (I think we are one) we'd be even better next year, and I don't see this trade as making us a worse team in the short term. But I understand still hoping for Dante to turn it around, he has tantalizing tools and seems to be a good guy.

[ForeverRDjazz]

Roberson was the best perimeter defender in the league prior to his injury.

He was definitely a great perimeter defender but I felt Exum was pretty close. His knee issue is a huge red flag to me. Exum has similar red flags as well but I like his upside better.

To be honest, I'd dump Dante for any expiring contract, and if we can get a decent player out of it, that's a win. If we did this, and Conley opted for a smaller contract over more time (like Horford did), we could be looking at about $17 million in cap space. We'd have to resign Royce, but we could likely do that after using the $17 million. If we are close to being a contender this year (I think we are one) we'd be even better next year, and I don't see this trade as making us a worse team in the short term. But I understand still hoping for Dante to turn it around, he has tantalizing tools and seems to be a good guy.

Raul is gone and Dante is here for two more years at least. Time to stop trashing him and let it rest.

[ForeverRDjazz]

Celts fan here, but love Joe Ingles, so wishing you the best...at least in most games.
Anyone able to summarise what space/exceptions you guys have left?
Great offseason, you just need a decent stopgap 4 to round things out, it seems.

Sorry Hayward killed your team chemistry. He's always been about himself. I'm just glad Jazz didn't get stuck with max deal he's not worth. You guys still have some really great young talent and hope Hayward doesn't wreak them and run em off.

[babyjax13]

He was definitely a great perimeter defender but I felt Exum was pretty close. His knee issue is a huge red flag to me. Exum has similar red flags as well but I like his upside better.

To be honest, I'd dump Dante for any expiring contract, and if we can get a decent player out of it, that's a win. If we did this, and Conley opted for a smaller contract over more time (like Horford did), we could be looking at about $17 million in cap space. We'd have to resign Royce, but we could likely do that after using the $17 million. If we are close to being a contender this year (I think we are one) we'd be even better next year, and I don't see this trade as making us a worse team in the short term. But I understand still hoping for Dante to turn it around, he has tantalizing tools and seems to be a good guy.

Raul is gone and Dante is here for two more years at least. Time to stop trashing him and let it rest.

Nah