Is Stern going to ruin the Season

Moderators: Inigo Montoya, FJS

User avatar
idajazz
Analyst
Posts: 3,385
And1: 139
Joined: Jan 08, 2002
     

Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#1 » by idajazz » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:59 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... ting101410

Are the new rules on reacting to calls going to ruin the season?
I think Stern is going to far with this one, and it is going to be a disaster.
Will the officials have the balls to T up and toss the top tier guys?
Thoughts?
User avatar
Ziploc
Sophomore
Posts: 216
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 27, 2010

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#2 » by Ziploc » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:17 pm

Its too far. But I can see where he is going with this, trying to make it more about the sport than the individual. At least thats how I feel, but still, its hard not to react to a foul call or stupid call. Its going to take some serious determination on the players part to hold back.
User avatar
DelaneyRudd
Senior Mod
Senior Mod
Posts: 104,536
And1: 9,467
Joined: Nov 17, 2006
     

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#3 » by DelaneyRudd » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:17 pm

No, they will only tee up guys like fes if they crack a sarcastic smile and tilt their head, but Lebron will be able to wince and flail in consternation.
User avatar
Ziploc
Sophomore
Posts: 216
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 27, 2010

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#4 » by Ziploc » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:23 pm

Stern/the officials made an example of Garnett the other night as well. ridiculous
User avatar
HammerDunk
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,126
And1: 0
Joined: Mar 27, 2008

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#5 » by HammerDunk » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:04 pm

There are going to be a lot of guys sitting out some games if this is the case...
Image
Word is, South Beach is ecstatic that they
won't be seeing Millsaps talents again this season...
User avatar
seejaydeja
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,450
And1: 53
Joined: Nov 03, 2005
Location: provo
         

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#6 » by seejaydeja » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:19 pm

Ziploc wrote:Stern/the officials made an example of Garnett the other night as well. ridiculous


It's the preseason. Things will loosen up in the regular season. Sterns stupid, but not stupid enough to eject his superstar product on a nightly basis.

Like Delaney said, the biggest change will be for guys like Fes. Not KG, LeBron, etc....
Image
User avatar
bsutefan
Rookie
Posts: 1,190
And1: 1
Joined: Oct 29, 2001

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#7 » by bsutefan » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:22 pm

If the NBA is going to impose things like this to the players, they need to hold themselves equally accountable. The NBA needs to be more transparent in its officiating analysis, bottom line. You can only cover something up for so long.

This is a perfect example of why the lockout next season will surely be more painful than ever. A new generation of players with unprecidented entitlement...mixed with a league that feels it is necessary to hold the other side to a higher standard than they hold themselves.
gojazzmjsucks
Rookie
Posts: 1,201
And1: 0
Joined: Oct 07, 2005
         

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#8 » by gojazzmjsucks » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:27 pm

All the fines will add up and keep the league from a lock out. Its all part of the plan for Stern.

Yes it is way to far.I was watch the Celtics preseason game and J.O. got a T fpr speeding up his walk to the bench after a bad call.That god Sheed is out of the League. He would be paying the refs to play like a parks and rec league
User avatar
idajazz
Analyst
Posts: 3,385
And1: 139
Joined: Jan 08, 2002
     

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#9 » by idajazz » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:06 pm

The NBA is getting harder to watch each year, This is only going to make things worse.
I can see this being a huge issue for the players in any bargaining for a new cba.
I think the league is doing this on purpose just to have a chip to bargain with.
User avatar
Soul Patch
RealGM
Posts: 21,263
And1: 948
Joined: Jun 16, 2008
Location: I'm at the White Castle
Contact:

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#10 » by Soul Patch » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:01 pm

Didn't he ban "excessive butt slapping" too?
Jugs wrote:Fark orf slet kent dome wuote ujquote exp
User avatar
DelaneyRudd
Senior Mod
Senior Mod
Posts: 104,536
And1: 9,467
Joined: Nov 17, 2006
     

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#11 » by DelaneyRudd » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:13 pm

I don't buy the Whats a matter with kids today argument. Things were way worse for primadonnaism in the day of Larry Johnson and Anthony mason.
User avatar
StocktonShorts
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 13,386
And1: 2,551
Joined: Jun 02, 2009
   

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#12 » by StocktonShorts » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:03 pm

idajazz wrote:The NBA is getting harder to watch each year, This is only going to make things worse.


I disagree completely. Am I the only one that was glad to see Kevin Garnett ejected for whining? Part of the problem with the NBA's "watchability" is the excessive amount of complaining and lobbying that goes on.

I'm just hoping they T up Tim Duncan for excessive eye-bugging.
Image
User avatar
idajazz
Analyst
Posts: 3,385
And1: 139
Joined: Jan 08, 2002
     

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#13 » by idajazz » Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:23 pm

HappyProle wrote:
idajazz wrote:The NBA is getting harder to watch each year, This is only going to make things worse.


I disagree completely. Am I the only one that was glad to see Kevin Garnett ejected for whining? Part of the problem with the NBA's "watchability" is the excessive amount of complaining and lobbying that goes on.

I'm just hoping they T up Tim Duncan for excessive eye-bugging.


Unwatchable in that it is just another trip to the line, and slows the game down even further.
I want to see basketball, not free throw shooting contests.
GP
Pro Prospect
Posts: 912
And1: 0
Joined: Aug 14, 2006

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#14 » by GP » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:23 pm

meh. Stern tweaks the rules and some fans predict the end of the world. Its not going to effect the flow of the game.
User avatar
QuantumMacgyver
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,453
And1: 42
Joined: Jul 07, 2008

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#15 » by QuantumMacgyver » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:26 pm

Firstly, yes.. Stern is ruining the NBA. He is a total git. However, they already tried to do this a few years ago. They quite after like 10 games. I agree players shouldn't be allowed to whine, but they should be allowed to show emotion. This is just to strict IMO.
schneiderjazz
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,056
And1: 19
Joined: Mar 16, 2005
Location: Brazil

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#16 » by schneiderjazz » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:40 pm

QuantumMacgyver wrote:Firstly, yes.. Stern is ruining the NBA. He is a total git. However, they already tried to do this a few years ago. They quite after like 10 games. I agree players shouldn't be allowed to whine, but they should be allowed to show emotion. This is just to strict IMO.


This. When you watch soccer, you see players getting emotional and whining with nothing happening. However if they get in the ref's face, whine excessively or if they flop, they get a yellow card. The same rule should apply to basketball IMO.
You shouldn't get a tech for complaining over a single call. If you complain excessively, like a lot of players do, if you confront the ref or if you get caught flopping, you should be called for a technical.
Image
dr0welf
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,771
And1: 793
Joined: Jun 16, 2007
     

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#17 » by dr0welf » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:50 pm

HappyProle wrote:I'm just hoping they T up Tim Duncan for excessive eye-bugging.


I hope they T up Pau Gasol for pure ugliness
User avatar
QuantumMacgyver
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,453
And1: 42
Joined: Jul 07, 2008

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#18 » by QuantumMacgyver » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:48 am

schneiderjazz wrote:
QuantumMacgyver wrote:Firstly, yes.. Stern is ruining the NBA. He is a total git. However, they already tried to do this a few years ago. They quite after like 10 games. I agree players shouldn't be allowed to whine, but they should be allowed to show emotion. This is just to strict IMO.


This. When you watch soccer, you see players getting emotional and whining with nothing happening. However if they get in the ref's face, whine excessively or if they flop, they get a yellow card. The same rule should apply to basketball IMO.
You shouldn't get a tech for complaining over a single call. If you complain excessively, like a lot of players do, if you confront the ref or if you get caught flopping, you should be called for a technical.


Couldn't agree with you more.
User avatar
nghedman
Pro Prospect
Posts: 778
And1: 9
Joined: Aug 25, 2003

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#19 » by nghedman » Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:53 am

Flooping, needs to be a rule, if a player fakes a foul there should be a penalty of sorts. That will clean up the game.

If refs are going to call complaining to the itty picky, they better be right on the call...which is impossible all the time. This is horrible! How does a player respond if his career and millions of dollars rely on it when a ref misses a call against that player. There better be fines or technicals for the refs too if they miss calls. Many of the arguing starts because the refs miss calls and get the players frustrated and fans frustrated too.

If they want to clean up the players frustration they should clean up the traveling rules and not allow three steps one way that isn't a travel and three steps another way that is a travel...based only on ones opinion. That stupid jump rule in the key, technically is NOT travelling in one respect but is traveling in another respect.... Confusing, fustration, horrible!!
Go ReAL!
Sloanfeld
Banned User
Posts: 2,717
And1: 0
Joined: Nov 04, 2006
Location: Pennsylvania

Re: Is Stern going to ruin the Season 

Post#20 » by Sloanfeld » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:42 am

They did this three years ago, it didn't even last as long as those composite balls.

Return to Utah Jazz