OKC Thunder Offseason 2015

[Bravenewworld]

Barnes would be a fantastic addition to this team.
We need a SF option behind KD. Just in case this foot thing continues to be an issue. Given our line up and what Donovan should be able to do as a coach, we dont need a star or superstar, but a guy like Barnes who is fully capable of producing with starter minutes, is a great defender, has tons of PO experience, and can offensively produce and give us a solid 10pt average, would be ideal.
We need more dirty work guys and Barnes would be perfect.

He is 35. That is really old. I don't know if he has another season left in the tank. He will join a playoff contender.

Eactly, and that team should be us. We could use the experience and dirty work he provides. Lets not forget that two of our most important players since contention had been Fisher and Collison. Two guys who are "really old". Barnes easily has another 3 years left. He has not been plagued by injury, had super high minutes, had dramatic decreases, etc.
He's perfect for us to go after, especially if we hit a scenario of KD needing down time.

[Balkman32]

Barnes would be a fantastic addition to this team.
We need a SF option behind KD. Just in case this foot thing continues to be an issue. Given our line up and what Donovan should be able to do as a coach, we dont need a star or superstar, but a guy like Barnes who is fully capable of producing with starter minutes, is a great defender, has tons of PO experience, and can offensively produce and give us a solid 10pt average, would be ideal.
We need more dirty work guys and Barnes would be perfect.

He is 35. That is really old. I don't know if he has another season left in the tank. He will join a playoff contender.

Eactly, and that team should be us. We could use the experience and dirty work he provides. Lets not forget that two of our most important players since contention had been Fisher and Collison. Two guys who are "really old". Barnes easily has another 3 years left. He has not been plagued by injury, had super high minutes, had dramatic decreases, etc.
He's perfect for us to go after, especially if we hit a scenario of KD needing down time.

But, he wont be here. Lets be real.

[Bravenewworld]

Why wouldnt it be realistic to think we could sign a guy who will most likely sign for an MLE contract?

[bondom34]

If its an option, I'd rather Dunleavy.

[Hbp3300]

I'd rather not sign Barnes... the roster is already loaded, he's really old, his shooting is really inconsistent, and they already have players on the roster that can do what he does.

[spearsy23]

I wouldn't dump any player on our roster for Barnes. If we had more open spots then I'd be meh about him, but unless we consolidate talent I'm not interested.

[bondom34]

I wouldn't dump any player on our roster for Barnes. If we had more open spots then I'd be meh about him, but unless we consolidate talent I'm not interested.

Mostly agree, but I'd drop Novak.

[spearsy23]

I wouldn't dump any player on our roster for Barnes. If we had more open spots then I'd be meh about him, but unless we consolidate talent I'm not interested.

Mostly agree, but I'd drop Novak.

Forgot about Novak, but I like that he has a clearly defined role. I think Singler is the better option as the backup 3 (we don't have a good offensive player on the bench so the more guys who have value offensively, the better), and we all know I have a hard-on for Robes. I just don't see Barnes as a need, but I also can't stand him in general, so it may be that talking.

[bondom34]

I wouldn't dump any player on our roster for Barnes. If we had more open spots then I'd be meh about him, but unless we consolidate talent I'm not interested.

Mostly agree, but I'd drop Novak.

Forgot about Novak, but I like that he has a clearly defined role. I think Singler is the better option as the backup 3 (we don't have a good offensive player on the bench so the more guys who have value offensively, the better), and we all know I have a hard-on for Robes. I just don't see Barnes as a need, but I also can't stand him in general, so it may be that talking.

I get the people hating him part, he's not likeable. I'm still hoping for Dunleavy somehow if they open a roster spot, and I'm maybe the only one who's as big a Robes fan as you (I may actually try to get an autograph).

Though I'm not sure Novak really has a "defined role".

[spearsy23]

Mostly agree, but I'd drop Novak.

Forgot about Novak, but I like that he has a clearly defined role. I think Singler is the better option as the backup 3 (we don't have a good offensive player on the bench so the more guys who have value offensively, the better), and we all know I have a hard-on for Robes. I just don't see Barnes as a need, but I also can't stand him in general, so it may be that talking.

I get the people hating him part, he's not likeable. I'm still hoping for Dunleavy somehow if they open a roster spot, and I'm maybe the only one who's as big a Robes fan as you (I may actually try to get an autograph).

Though I'm not sure Novak really has a "defined role".

Novak has a very clearly defined role, it's 'we're down by three with 5 seconds left, stand in the corner.' Outside of that he's perfectly happy riding the bench

I'd really like Dunleavy, probably more than Singler.

I really want a Robes jersey, if he's still starting this season I'm for sure getting one.

[Soonerule]

Maybe I'm nuts, but I wonder if Presti might like what we have. I say that because when I look at our lineup I see versatility. Russ, KD, and Serge are set as starters, period, but the other 2 spots could change based on the opponent. Both Kanter and Adams have said they don't care who starts and with Robes, Lamb, Waiters and Morrow, Donovan would have the luxury of going with the player with the best skill set based on who we are playing. We've got Collison and McGary backing up Serge, PJ should already be ready to back up KD, Singler if he's not, and Augustin backing up Westbrook.

If I'm right, it explains Presti's number one reason for making a coaching change. He has his team and he needed someone to utilize it better. Like I said, maybe I'm nuts.

[spearsy23]

Just once next season I want to see a Russ/KD/Serge/Kanter/Adams lineup against some team playing small ball.

[Hobes]

So there was discussion today on ESPN radio mentioning OKC trading Westbrook for the Knicks #4. I seriously can't believe this was even discussed...

[spearsy23]

So there was discussion today on ESPN radio mentioning OKC trading Westbrook for the Knicks #4. I seriously can't believe this was even discussed...

Was Simmons involved?

Seriously, where do they get this crap? Why would a team trade the guy who possibly just had the best season in the NBA for a draft pick?

[NaturalThunder]

So there was discussion today on ESPN radio mentioning OKC trading Westbrook for the Knicks #4. I seriously can't believe this was even discussed...

Presti wouldn't have even entertained the thought of trading Westbrook after his 15-5-5 49% TS rookie season, or his 16-8-5 49% TS second season if it could have netted him the #4 pick in the draft. Why in the world would he consider doing it after his 28-9-7 54% TS 2015 season? Russ essentially did what LeBron did in the playoffs, just with fewer points but a +7% TS advantage, but instead of doing it in a 6-game series, he did it over the course of half a season or so and dang near led an OKC team decimated by injuries to the playoffs in an uber-competitive Western Conference.

[bondom34]

So there was discussion today on ESPN radio mentioning OKC trading Westbrook for the Knicks #4. I seriously can't believe this was even discussed...

Presti wouldn't have even entertained the thought of trading Westbrook after his 15-5-5 49% TS rookie season, or his 16-8-5 49% TS second season if it could have netted him the #4 pick in the draft. Why in the world would he consider doing it after his 28-9-7 54% TS 2015 season? Russ essentially did what LeBron did in the playoffs, just with fewer points but a +7% TS advantage, but instead of doing it in a 6-game series, he did it over the course of half a season or so and dang near led an OKC team decimated by injuries to the playoffs in an uber-competitive Western Conference.

Don't say this on the PC board, you'll be told Russ didn't have the "impact" Lebron did.

RAPM says so.

[NaturalThunder]

So there was discussion today on ESPN radio mentioning OKC trading Westbrook for the Knicks #4. I seriously can't believe this was even discussed...

Presti wouldn't have even entertained the thought of trading Westbrook after his 15-5-5 49% TS rookie season, or his 16-8-5 49% TS second season if it could have netted him the #4 pick in the draft. Why in the world would he consider doing it after his 28-9-7 54% TS 2015 season? Russ essentially did what LeBron did in the playoffs, just with fewer points but a +7% TS advantage, but instead of doing it in a 6-game series, he did it over the course of half a season or so and dang near led an OKC team decimated by injuries to the playoffs in an uber-competitive Western Conference.

Don't say this on the PC board, you'll be told Russ didn't have the "impact" Lebron did.

RAPM says so.

I'm sure on the PC board, too. LeBron is pretty much untouchable on here. There's very, very little criticism of his game on either the GB or PC, and anytime you try and say any current NBA player had a similar impact or even a better impact than LeBron at any point in time you're blaspheming and know nothing about basketball.

[bondom34]

Presti wouldn't have even entertained the thought of trading Westbrook after his 15-5-5 49% TS rookie season, or his 16-8-5 49% TS second season if it could have netted him the #4 pick in the draft. Why in the world would he consider doing it after his 28-9-7 54% TS 2015 season? Russ essentially did what LeBron did in the playoffs, just with fewer points but a +7% TS advantage, but instead of doing it in a 6-game series, he did it over the course of half a season or so and dang near led an OKC team decimated by injuries to the playoffs in an uber-competitive Western Conference.

Don't say this on the PC board, you'll be told Russ didn't have the "impact" Lebron did.

RAPM says so.

I'm sure on the PC board, too. LeBron is pretty much untouchable on here. There's very, very little criticism of his game on either the GB or PC, and anytime you try and say any current NBA player had a similar impact or even a better impact than LeBron at any point in time you're blaspheming and know nothing about basketball.

Or Curry tbh. Its gotten to a point where I feel like the PC board at times has become a rank by RAPM forum, which is odd as I used to sort of fnd it useful, but never as a singular defining number that some seem to use it as. It can support an argument, not make it imo.

[Balkman32]

Why wouldnt it be realistic to think we could sign a guy who will most likely sign for an MLE contract?

Yes. But, can only offer the Tax Payers mid-level which is 3 million. I think everyone will be throwing their 5 million mid-level exception around this off season.

[Balkman32]

Forgot about Novak, but I like that he has a clearly defined role. I think Singler is the better option as the backup 3 (we don't have a good offensive player on the bench so the more guys who have value offensively, the better), and we all know I have a hard-on for Robes. I just don't see Barnes as a need, but I also can't stand him in general, so it may be that talking.

I get the people hating him part, he's not likeable. I'm still hoping for Dunleavy somehow if they open a roster spot, and I'm maybe the only one who's as big a Robes fan as you (I may actually try to get an autograph).

Though I'm not sure Novak really has a "defined role".

Novak has a very clearly defined role, it's 'we're down by three with 5 seconds left, stand in the corner.' Outside of that he's perfectly happy riding the bench

I'd really like Dunleavy, probably more than Singler.

I really want a Robes jersey, if he's still starting this season I'm for sure getting one.

It will be interesting to see what Dunleavey will do this year. If we loose Singler I would assume the Thunder would offer him the FULL Tax Payers MLE.