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Re: OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread 

Post#2221 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:00 pm

Devilanche wrote:Schroeder if he’s bought out ?


not sure he wants to come back but I like the idea
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Post#2222 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:01 pm

well at this point I like the idea of any experienced PG or third big (not counting Theis, he sucks)
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Post#2223 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:39 pm

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better than a trade...but I still want a trade.
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Post#2224 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:44 pm

I guess Chet rehab went really well lately for them to decide to play him before the all star break.
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Post#2225 » by Devilanche » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:47 pm

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better than a trade...but I still want a trade.

We want a trade with a useful player coming back.

We must be specific otherwise Presti will trade another first in a random year for another first in another year .
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Post#2226 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 2:49 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:
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better than a trade...but I still want a trade.

We want a trade with a useful player coming back.

We must be specific otherwise Presti will trade another first in a random year for another first in another year .


I don't think it will happen but we still have a few hours to dream
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Post#2227 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:33 pm

Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.
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Post#2228 » by Big nick » Thu Feb 6, 2025 6:17 pm

I think Sam believes in dieng but I don't. Don't think he can be more than a bench player at best.
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Post#2229 » by Dadouv47 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:58 pm

not even a pick swap :(
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Post#2230 » by Kizz Fastfists » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:34 pm

Davion Mitchell got moved for a 2nd round pick. Presti could have taken him into the room exception and given up multiple second round picks or one of their many FRPs that will likely be in the 20s and added the playmaking backup guard OKC needed. Have I mentioned lately that I love how predictable Presti is about doing nothing to improve the team and actually going all-in for a championship? By going all-in I mean giving up something minor like a FRP that will be in the 20th range and holds minimal value due to roster spot limits and the odds of that player panning out for a player that would elevate OKC in a year their championship window is open.

Someone please tell me I'm wrong and overreacting. Tell me OKC doesn't have any need for another ballhandler or playmaker off the bench. Tell me doing nothing while the rest of the West was getting better was the right move. LAL went from a non-factor to a potential threat. GSW added talent that can make them a difficult out in the playoffs. Is OKC still going to be considered the favorite in the West? Yes. Did that gap narrow significantly? Yes. Did Presti have options to increase OKC's ceiling and help maintain more of that gap? Yes. While I would like to throw De'Andre Hunter as another miss I don't think the salary matching was there because of the refusal to add a room MLE contract in the off-season which would have made salary matching easy. We got Theis!!!! That's as worthless as adding Hayward last trade deadline. Maybe next decade Presit will decide it's time to go for it.
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Post#2231 » by Kizz Fastfists » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:35 pm

Big nick wrote:I think Sam believes in dieng but I don't. Don't think he can be more than a bench player at best.


I think Presti believes there is no difference between making the playoffs and winning a championship.
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Post#2232 » by Devilanche » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:36 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.

Make it make sense for me anyone ?
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Post#2233 » by Devilanche » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:37 pm

Let’s hope Middleton get bought out and he choose a seat on the OKC bench . We just need him to get hot in some games in the playoff . Give him all we can afford for this year.
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Post#2234 » by Kizz Fastfists » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:51 pm

Devilanche wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.

Make it make sense for me anyone ?


Embrace the organizational philosophy. The only goal is to make the playoffs. There is no goal beyond that. Stop thinking about moves that would boost the championship potential for OKC. Stop thinking about what an organization that was committed to winning a championship would do. Those moves are reserved for LA, Dallas, GSW, etc. Remember, last rebuild we had Harden, Russ and KD and one of them had to be traded. This time we have SGA, Chet and JDub. Does one get traded? Which one? Do they keep them together and every year we watch another team make a move that puts them just ahead of OKC for their playoff run and OKC's refusal to go for a championship get another MVP talent, SGA, to what when they hit FA?
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Post#2235 » by Kizz Fastfists » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:55 pm

Devilanche wrote:Let’s hope Middleton get bought out and he choose a seat on the OKC bench . We just need him to get hot in some games in the playoff . Give him all we can afford for this year.


OKC doesn't have an open roster spot. Theis got acquired as the 15th roster spot then got cut, which makes sense so it was basically just OKC buying a 2nd round pick. However, Presti then gave Ajay a NBA contract which takes up the 15th spot.
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Post#2236 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:16 am

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Devilanche wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.

Make it make sense for me anyone ?


Embrace the organizational philosophy. The only goal is to make the playoffs. There is no goal beyond that. Stop thinking about moves that would boost the championship potential for OKC. Stop thinking about what an organization that was committed to winning a championship would do. Those moves are reserved for LA, Dallas, GSW, etc. Remember, last rebuild we had Harden, Russ and KD and one of them had to be traded. This time we have SGA, Chet and JDub. Does one get traded? Which one? Do they keep them together and every year we watch another team make a move that puts them just ahead of OKC for their playoff run and OKC's refusal to go for a championship get another MVP talent, SGA, to what when they hit FA?


Come on Kizz, you are smarter than this. You know we didn't trade for Caruso and signed Hartenstein "just" to make the playoffs.

We need Joe and Wiggins contracts for the future. Presti's biggest flaw is that he's too much risk-averseI so to me he messed up by not trading Kenrich + other players for Cam Johnson or another good player but let's not act like we have only a roster "to make the playoffs". Our team is more than capable to win a championship...it will come down to health and if our guys can hit their shots which wasn't the case last season.
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Re: OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread 

Post#2237 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:20 am

Devilanche wrote:Let’s hope Middleton get bought out and he choose a seat on the OKC bench . We just need him to get hot in some games in the playoff . Give him all we can afford for this year.


Milddleton would be such a perfect fit. Couldn't think of a better guy to bring. Just need a guy that can hit his shot without much space.

Bob Myers wanted OKC to add Cam Johnson because he can do this as well and said hitting 3's in the POs is different than in the regular season because of lack of spacing (and that our only shooter is Isaiah Joe). Well if we look at last year's POs, he's right.
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Post#2238 » by Devilanche » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:23 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Devilanche wrote:Let’s hope Middleton get bought out and he choose a seat on the OKC bench . We just need him to get hot in some games in the playoff . Give him all we can afford for this year.


OKC doesn't have an open roster spot. Theis got acquired as the 15th roster spot then got cut, which makes sense so it was basically just OKC buying a 2nd round pick. However, Presti then gave Ajay a NBA contract which takes up the 15th spot.

Ajay got the contract already ? Oh wow .
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Post#2239 » by Kizz Fastfists » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:51 am

Dadouv47 wrote:Come on Kizz, you are smarter than this. You know we didn't trade for Caruso and signed Hartenstein "just" to make the playoffs.

We need Joe and Wiggins contracts for the future. Presti's biggest flaw is that he's too much risk-averseI so to me he messed up by not trading Kenrich + other players for Cam Johnson or another good player but let's not act like we have only a roster "to make the playoffs". Our team is more than capable to win a championship...it will come down to health and if our guys can hit their shots which wasn't the case last season.


Perhaps the problem is that I'm smart enough that I understand that despite that the roster still has significant flaws that will be exposed in the playoffs that wouldn't still be there if Presti were trying to win a championship.

Presti's biggest problem is he has no foresight. Perhaps I'm just gifted with the best foresight in the world. Unlikely. OKC needed more size and another big before last season and it was so glaringly obvious a toddler could see it before the trade deadline. Presti didn't do anything about that until after his team got knocked out of the playoffs from lack of size. He added an old, washed-up wing as his big move that he somehow thought would be a significant add instead of adding the size needed. He did facilitate trades to make sure Dallas had everything it needed to knock OKC out of the playoffs. There is a reason those who have a clue about the NBA called last deadline Presti tanking as he made the team obviously worse. His biggest flaw has always been roster construction and knowing how his team compared to others. Getting rid of Harden wasn't the worst thing he could have done, although close to it, and then letting KMart walk in FA leaving the team without a reliable 3rd scorer and destroying the spacing and 3pt shooting was beyond stupid.

Tell me when Presti showed foresight in teambuilding. Trading Harden? He drafts well in the top 10. Outside of that he is complete garbage. He managed to get one of the biggest asset packages ever when trading a star player and impressively rebuild in the same timeframe as Houston even though he had gotten control of Houston's draft future and had SGA on his roster already. Nothing about Presti is special. He makes the right draft picks. Good for him. He might as well be a draft expert for ESPN because outside of that one skill he's absolute garbage. He didn't sign a room MLE player which would have made it easy to add what he needed for a shot at a championship. He's the guy that shows up to the track in a stock 1965 Mustang with his inline 6 and thinks it's going to take beat the modern V8 Mustangs not understanding that all Mustangs are not equal.
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Re: OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread 

Post#2240 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:09 am

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Dadouv47 wrote:Come on Kizz, you are smarter than this. You know we didn't trade for Caruso and signed Hartenstein "just" to make the playoffs.

We need Joe and Wiggins contracts for the future. Presti's biggest flaw is that he's too much risk-averseI so to me he messed up by not trading Kenrich + other players for Cam Johnson or another good player but let's not act like we have only a roster "to make the playoffs". Our team is more than capable to win a championship...it will come down to health and if our guys can hit their shots which wasn't the case last season.


Perhaps the problem is that I'm smart enough that I understand that despite that the roster still has significant flaws that will be exposed in the playoffs that wouldn't still be there if Presti were trying to win a championship.

Presti's biggest problem is he has no foresight. Perhaps I'm just gifted with the best foresight in the world. Unlikely. OKC needed more size and another big before last season and it was so glaringly obvious a toddler could see it before the trade deadline. Presti didn't do anything about that until after his team got knocked out of the playoffs from lack of size. He added an old, washed-up wing as his big move that he somehow thought would be a significant add instead of adding the size needed. He did facilitate trades to make sure Dallas had everything it needed to knock OKC out of the playoffs. There is a reason those who have a clue about the NBA called last deadline Presti tanking as he made the team obviously worse. His biggest flaw has always been roster construction and knowing how his team compared to others. Getting rid of Harden wasn't the worst thing he could have done, although close to it, and then letting KMart walk in FA leaving the team without a reliable 3rd scorer and destroying the spacing and 3pt shooting was beyond stupid.

Tell me when Presti showed foresight in teambuilding. Trading Harden? He drafts well in the top 10. Outside of that he is complete garbage. He managed to get one of the biggest asset packages ever when trading a star player and impressively rebuild in the same timeframe as Houston even though he had gotten control of Houston's draft future and had SGA on his roster already. Nothing about Presti is special. He makes the right draft picks. Good for him. He might as well be a draft expert for ESPN because outside of that one skill he's absolute garbage. He didn't sign a room MLE player which would have made it easy to add what he needed for a shot at a championship. He's the guy that shows up to the track in a stock 1965 Mustang with his inline 6 and thinks it's going to take beat the modern V8 Mustangs not understanding that all Mustangs are not equal.


Perhaps you think you are smarter than you really are. You wanted to trade Dort and two FRPs for John Collins last season (two months after John Collins got traded for a 2nd round pick and was playing like ***). This is easily in the top 3 of the worst takes I have ever read on this forum.

I might be wrong Kizz but sometimes it feels like u don't watch many games. You told us last season if I'm not mistaken that u were not watching that much and it's your right but it changes how you view things.

I agree with you that Presti is overrated when it comes to draft skill (despite the fact that he still got some nice guys outside of the top 10). Presti is a great GM for the main reason that he knows how to handle relationships. That's how OKC got so much for PG13. Look at the Fox situation in Sacramento and u will see that those things never happen in OKC and Presti is the reason why.

Presti made huge mistakes: having Billy Donovan and Scott Brooks as head coach for so long was beyond stupid. I tend to think he learned that he needed to surround himself with better basketball minds than himself and that's a big reason of our recent "success".
He hired a competent coach, got a ton of good basketball scouts, hired the best shooting assistant. Presti is not the most brillant basketball mind but he's good at dealing with relationships and finally surrounding himself with a good coaching staff is a game changer for our franchise.

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