Devilanche wrote:Schroeder if he’s bought out ?
not sure he wants to come back but I like the idea
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Devilanche wrote:Schroeder if he’s bought out ?
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:No I’m myopic and shortsighted and I want my pile of draft picks.
meekrab wrote:Nothing Jerry Rein$dorf loves more than a visit from Cash Considerations.
Devilanche wrote:
We want a trade with a useful player coming back.
We must be specific otherwise Presti will trade another first in a random year for another first in another year .
Big nick wrote:I think Sam believes in dieng but I don't. Don't think he can be more than a bench player at best.
Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:No I’m myopic and shortsighted and I want my pile of draft picks.
meekrab wrote:Nothing Jerry Rein$dorf loves more than a visit from Cash Considerations.
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:No I’m myopic and shortsighted and I want my pile of draft picks.
meekrab wrote:Nothing Jerry Rein$dorf loves more than a visit from Cash Considerations.
Devilanche wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.
Make it make sense for me anyone ?
Devilanche wrote:Let’s hope Middleton get bought out and he choose a seat on the OKC bench . We just need him to get hot in some games in the playoff . Give him all we can afford for this year.
Kizz Fastfists wrote:Devilanche wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Makes no sense if Dieng is still in OKC after today's deadline.
Make it make sense for me anyone ?
Embrace the organizational philosophy. The only goal is to make the playoffs. There is no goal beyond that. Stop thinking about moves that would boost the championship potential for OKC. Stop thinking about what an organization that was committed to winning a championship would do. Those moves are reserved for LA, Dallas, GSW, etc. Remember, last rebuild we had Harden, Russ and KD and one of them had to be traded. This time we have SGA, Chet and JDub. Does one get traded? Which one? Do they keep them together and every year we watch another team make a move that puts them just ahead of OKC for their playoff run and OKC's refusal to go for a championship get another MVP talent, SGA, to what when they hit FA?
Devilanche wrote:Let’s hope Middleton get bought out and he choose a seat on the OKC bench . We just need him to get hot in some games in the playoff . Give him all we can afford for this year.
Kizz Fastfists wrote:Devilanche wrote:Let’s hope Middleton get bought out and he choose a seat on the OKC bench . We just need him to get hot in some games in the playoff . Give him all we can afford for this year.
OKC doesn't have an open roster spot. Theis got acquired as the 15th roster spot then got cut, which makes sense so it was basically just OKC buying a 2nd round pick. However, Presti then gave Ajay a NBA contract which takes up the 15th spot.
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:No I’m myopic and shortsighted and I want my pile of draft picks.
meekrab wrote:Nothing Jerry Rein$dorf loves more than a visit from Cash Considerations.
Dadouv47 wrote:Come on Kizz, you are smarter than this. You know we didn't trade for Caruso and signed Hartenstein "just" to make the playoffs.
We need Joe and Wiggins contracts for the future. Presti's biggest flaw is that he's too much risk-averseI so to me he messed up by not trading Kenrich + other players for Cam Johnson or another good player but let's not act like we have only a roster "to make the playoffs". Our team is more than capable to win a championship...it will come down to health and if our guys can hit their shots which wasn't the case last season.
Kizz Fastfists wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Come on Kizz, you are smarter than this. You know we didn't trade for Caruso and signed Hartenstein "just" to make the playoffs.
We need Joe and Wiggins contracts for the future. Presti's biggest flaw is that he's too much risk-averseI so to me he messed up by not trading Kenrich + other players for Cam Johnson or another good player but let's not act like we have only a roster "to make the playoffs". Our team is more than capable to win a championship...it will come down to health and if our guys can hit their shots which wasn't the case last season.
Perhaps the problem is that I'm smart enough that I understand that despite that the roster still has significant flaws that will be exposed in the playoffs that wouldn't still be there if Presti were trying to win a championship.
Presti's biggest problem is he has no foresight. Perhaps I'm just gifted with the best foresight in the world. Unlikely. OKC needed more size and another big before last season and it was so glaringly obvious a toddler could see it before the trade deadline. Presti didn't do anything about that until after his team got knocked out of the playoffs from lack of size. He added an old, washed-up wing as his big move that he somehow thought would be a significant add instead of adding the size needed. He did facilitate trades to make sure Dallas had everything it needed to knock OKC out of the playoffs. There is a reason those who have a clue about the NBA called last deadline Presti tanking as he made the team obviously worse. His biggest flaw has always been roster construction and knowing how his team compared to others. Getting rid of Harden wasn't the worst thing he could have done, although close to it, and then letting KMart walk in FA leaving the team without a reliable 3rd scorer and destroying the spacing and 3pt shooting was beyond stupid.
Tell me when Presti showed foresight in teambuilding. Trading Harden? He drafts well in the top 10. Outside of that he is complete garbage. He managed to get one of the biggest asset packages ever when trading a star player and impressively rebuild in the same timeframe as Houston even though he had gotten control of Houston's draft future and had SGA on his roster already. Nothing about Presti is special. He makes the right draft picks. Good for him. He might as well be a draft expert for ESPN because outside of that one skill he's absolute garbage. He didn't sign a room MLE player which would have made it easy to add what he needed for a shot at a championship. He's the guy that shows up to the track in a stock 1965 Mustang with his inline 6 and thinks it's going to take beat the modern V8 Mustangs not understanding that all Mustangs are not equal.
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