OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble

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Post#2641 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:14 pm

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bondom34 wrote:You need to have a good option to deal with it though. I'd love a good move but if nothing is there wait it out. Maybe someone gets bought out.


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I don't want Presti to wait till the trade deadline just to fix a glaring issue. Give Dakari a couple of weeks and then deal with it.


It’s not likely to happen that quickly. It sounds like Patterson won’t be ready for the opener. I’m sure they’ll give him ample opportunity to get healthy and see if he can be successful before any moves are made.


Yeah, you don't need to rush things. I just don't want Presti to ignore this because of some strange affection with Grant. Grant is not the solution.

I dont even think they buy that. I think theyre just using what theyre stuck with for now.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2642 » by Pillendreher » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:24 pm

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bondom34 wrote:You need to have a good option to deal with it though. I'd love a good move but if nothing is there wait it out. Maybe someone gets bought out.


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It’s not likely to happen that quickly. It sounds like Patterson won’t be ready for the opener. I’m sure they’ll give him ample opportunity to get healthy and see if he can be successful before any moves are made.


Yeah, you don't need to rush things. I just don't want Presti to ignore this because of some strange affection with Grant. Grant is not the solution.

I dont even think they buy that. I think theyre just using what theyre stuck with for now.


It would not be the first time that Presti ignored a glaring issue and just went with it. Semaj Christon played minutes in the postseason, mind you.

EDIT: And yes, they did sign Cole, but that was like 5 games before the Playoffs started. That's why I don't want him to wait yet again for Bogut or whoever.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2643 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:27 pm

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Yeah, you don't need to rush things. I just don't want Presti to ignore this because of some strange affection with Grant. Grant is not the solution.

I dont even think they buy that. I think theyre just using what theyre stuck with for now.


It would not be the first time that Presti ignored a glaring issue and just went with it. Semaj Christon played minutes in the postseason, mind you.

EDIT: And yes, they did sign Cole, but that was like 5 games before the Playoffs started. That's why I don't want him to wait yet again for Bogut or whoever.

Again though what should he have done. Wastes assets foe a marginal upgrade in a firstb round loss? Theres just nothing worth it rn
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2644 » by spearsy23 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:28 pm

Knrstz wrote:Other than Paul Pierce, I love the fact that the national media is questioning our team so much. I would rather be the disrespected hunter than the hunted.

It makes the season so much less stressful.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#2645 » by getrichordie » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:01 pm

I just don’t think we have the assets to get Nogueira guys. Unless we just feel like giving up our 2022 FRP. I think this is a no brainer deal from our standpoint so you have to think Raptors would rather ride out Nogueiras contract. Hell they might resign him. Nogueira/Poeltl is not a bad front court. They just have to move JV.


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Post#2646 » by Pillendreher » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:15 pm

getrichordie wrote:I just don’t think we have the assets to get Nogueira guys. Unless we just feel like giving up our 2022 FRP. I think this is a no brainer deal from our standpoint so you have to think Raptors would rather ride out Nogueiras contract. Hell they might resign him. Nogueira/Poeltl is not a bad front court. They just have to move JV.


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Raptors fans seem to like it. I think my Grant hate doesn't apply to all the other fanbases :lol:
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2647 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:42 pm

Grant is young and athletic. That has some appeal to other teams.
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Post#2648 » by Thabo Sefolosha » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:09 pm

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Post#2649 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:20 pm

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I like this, was good in college. Would be a solid pickup.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2650 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:22 pm

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Knrstz wrote:Other than Paul Pierce, I love the fact that the national media is questioning our team so much. I would rather be the disrespected hunter than the hunted.

It makes the season so much less stressful.

TBH knowing one of Russ/Melo/PG will likely be on court at all times helps too. Games might even be more fun and less stress than last year, and there's zero chance of losing Russ. I can just enjoy games.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2651 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:28 pm

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I like this, was good in college. Would be a solid pickup.


I’ll be honest, I don’t watch much college b-ball. It makes my eyes bleed. This guy looks like he’s pretty crafty getting to the basket.

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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2652 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:31 pm

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I like this, was good in college. Would be a solid pickup.


I’ll be honest, I don’t watch much college b-ball. It makes my eyes bleed. This guy looks like he’s pretty crafty getting to the basket.


I didn't watch a ton last year but remember him, so he was fairly good if I remember the name. Was actually looking at him if they bought into the 2nd round.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2653 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:34 pm

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bondom34 wrote:I like this, was good in college. Would be a solid pickup.


I’ll be honest, I don’t watch much college b-ball. It makes my eyes bleed. This guy looks like he’s pretty crafty getting to the basket.


I didn't watch a ton last year but remember him, so he was fairly good if I remember the name. Was actually looking at him if they bought into the 2nd round.


He’s not even 21 yet so he has room to grow.
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Post#2654 » by Old Man Game » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:52 pm

Dozier acquisition is interesting. To me that's the exact sort of prospect you should use a 2 way contract on given the age and relative upside. So bravo to Presti on that one.
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Post#2655 » by jambalaya » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:58 am

Watching Dozier highlights he looked very good. Used glass well. Relaxed. Candidate for my favorite player before he is on team. Watching his weakness reel, he had a number of very bad misses & turnovers. Still, I like him.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2656 » by spearsy23 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:28 am

Looks like he can finish through contact. That's been one of the most frustrating things for me to watch the last couple years, it seems like we haven't had anybody but Russ capable of taking a bump and adjusting mid shot. Adams is especially frustrating, it seems like he's missing if he gets breathed on.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2657 » by bondom34 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:10 am

The Ringer had him 42 on their board pre draft.

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A superb athlete who projects as a high-level defender, though his shooting may limit him severely on offense.
BEST-CASE SCENARIO: Shaun Livingston, Dejounte Murray

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Tremendous athlete with high defensive upside; explosive in the open floor, with long arms and excellent lateral quickness.
Multipositional defender: could effectively switch onto guards, wings, and leaner forwards.
Can create space off the dribble; he changes directions quickly and gets to the rim.
Solid playmaker who can take on secondary pick-and-roll duties. Tightened his handle as a sophomore, but still needs work.
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Poor shooter who needs to overhaul his mechanics. Flings the ball at the rim. Also subpar from the free throw line.
Average feel for the game; his success will largely depend on his athleticism.
Has high defensive potential, but needs to improve his fundamentals to avoid committing careless fouls like reach-ins.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2658 » by spearsy23 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:46 am

bondom34 wrote:The Ringer had him 42 on their board pre draft.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

BEST-CASE SCENARIO: Shaun Livingston, Dejounte Murray


What? His bcs was a rookie who nobody actually knows how good might end up?
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2659 » by Pillendreher » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:11 am

Argh. On the lastet Open Floor podcast, Golliver once again coming with the hate.

'Any injury to one of those 3 and they're gonna look pretty incompetent very quickly'

Just shut up, man. Every year the same BS with the Thunder hating.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2660 » by Pillendreher » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:02 pm

"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said

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