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Post#1401 » by jake_swivel » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:07 pm

ThunderBorn wrote:Hypothetically, say we get the 1st pick in this draft. Houston falls out of the top 4. Would we still get Houston’s pick or would it be Miami’s pick? To my understanding we would keep our pick and since we have a swap with Houston. They would get to keep their pick (outside of top 4). So that would leave us with pick 1 and Miami’s pick.... help me out here


OKC would get the rockets pick if it’s outside the top 4 even if OKC was picking 1st.
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Post#1402 » by ThunderBorn » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:33 pm

jake_swivel wrote:
ThunderBorn wrote:Hypothetically, say we get the 1st pick in this draft. Houston falls out of the top 4. Would we still get Houston’s pick or would it be Miami’s pick? To my understanding we would keep our pick and since we have a swap with Houston. They would get to keep their pick (outside of top 4). So that would leave us with pick 1 and Miami’s pick.... help me out here


OKC would get the rockets pick if it’s outside the top 4 even if OKC was picking 1st.


I thought pick swap meant the best of the 2 picks. We don’t own the rockets pick this year, like we do next year.
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Post#1403 » by jake_swivel » Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:47 pm

ThunderBorn wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:
ThunderBorn wrote:Hypothetically, say we get the 1st pick in this draft. Houston falls out of the top 4. Would we still get Houston’s pick or would it be Miami’s pick? To my understanding we would keep our pick and since we have a swap with Houston. They would get to keep their pick (outside of top 4). So that would leave us with pick 1 and Miami’s pick.... help me out here


OKC would get the rockets pick if it’s outside the top 4 even if OKC was picking 1st.


I thought pick swap meant the best of the 2 picks. We don’t own the rockets pick this year, like we do next year.


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Post#1404 » by Devilanche » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:58 pm

ThunderBorn wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:
ThunderBorn wrote:Hypothetically, say we get the 1st pick in this draft. Houston falls out of the top 4. Would we still get Houston’s pick or would it be Miami’s pick? To my understanding we would keep our pick and since we have a swap with Houston. They would get to keep their pick (outside of top 4). So that would leave us with pick 1 and Miami’s pick.... help me out here


OKC would get the rockets pick if it’s outside the top 4 even if OKC was picking 1st.


I thought pick swap meant the best of the 2 picks. We don’t own the rockets pick this year, like we do next year.

OKC/Houston/Miami - best 2 out of 3 unless Houston pick falls 1-4 then we will get Miami’s.
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Post#1405 » by slicedbread2 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:37 am

ThunderBorn wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:
ThunderBorn wrote:Hypothetically, say we get the 1st pick in this draft. Houston falls out of the top 4. Would we still get Houston’s pick or would it be Miami’s pick? To my understanding we would keep our pick and since we have a swap with Houston. They would get to keep their pick (outside of top 4). So that would leave us with pick 1 and Miami’s pick.... help me out here


OKC would get the rockets pick if it’s outside the top 4 even if OKC was picking 1st.


I thought pick swap meant the best of the 2 picks. We don’t own the rockets pick this year, like we do next year.


Here's the rule with this year's picks:

1) OKC has the right to swap picks with HOU in 2021. Pick is protected from 1-4. If it stays in this range, Rockets keep the pick. If it falls outside the protected range, the Rockets will end up with the lower of OKC/Miami's 1st. Otherwise Thunder keep Miami's pick if the Rocket's pick stays in said protected range.

Hope the explanation helps.
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Post#1406 » by Balkman32 » Wed May 5, 2021 4:56 pm

slicedbread2 wrote:
ThunderBorn wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:
OKC would get the rockets pick if it’s outside the top 4 even if OKC was picking 1st.


I thought pick swap meant the best of the 2 picks. We don’t own the rockets pick this year, like we do next year.


Here's the rule with this year's picks:

1) OKC has the right to swap picks with HOU in 2021. Pick is protected from 1-4. If it stays in this range, Rockets keep the pick. If it falls outside the protected range, the Rockets will end up with the lower of OKC/Miami's 1st. Otherwise Thunder keep Miami's pick if the Rocket's pick stays in said protected range.

Hope the explanation helps.


The reason the Thunder were able to do it this way was because they have Miami's unprotected pick form the George trade before they made the Westbrook deal to acquire the pick swap.

At the end of the day the Thunder will keep their pick. The pick swap is between Houston First (top 4 protected) and Miami's First.

If Houston remains the worst team in the league. Their odds at receiving the #5 pick are the highest.
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Post#1407 » by JediMasterRevan » Wed May 12, 2021 5:00 pm

Anyone think OKC might move the pick?
If so what would the cost be?
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Post#1408 » by Dn4sty » Wed May 12, 2021 5:29 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:Anyone think OKC might move the pick?
If so what would the cost be?


I think there is a chance they move 5 if they also land their own pick in the top 5. If they just land one pick in the top 5, then I don’t believe they will move it.

If the worst case (like 7 and 19) happens then I think you could see them move those picks along with other stuff for current nba players.

I’m not sure how long you can prolong the tank with SGA on the roster.

Did you have something in mind?
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Post#1409 » by JediMasterRevan » Wed May 12, 2021 5:46 pm

Dn4sty wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:Anyone think OKC might move the pick?
If so what would the cost be?


I think there is a chance they move 5 if they also land their own pick in the top 5. If they just land one pick in the top 5, then I don’t believe they will move it.

If the worst case (like 7 and 19) happens then I think you could see them move those picks along with other stuff for current nba players.

I’m not sure how long you can prolong the tank with SGA on the roster.

Did you have something in mind?



Just curious more than anything at this point in time.
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Post#1410 » by jambalaya » Thu May 13, 2021 12:09 am

Horford transaction possibilities (not sweating exact details / balancing):

GSW for Wiggins or as part of a multi-team deal.

Nuggets: for Will Barton and Jymychal Green and either passing them along to somebody else immediately or later.

Magic: For Harris or Bamba / Ross / filler.

Mavs: multi-team deal involving Hardaway sign n trade and D Powell.

Kings: a deal involving some combo of Hield, Barnes, Bagley, Holmes sign n trade and Wright mostly going to other teams.
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Post#1411 » by ThunderBolt » Thu May 13, 2021 3:42 pm

bondom34 wrote:The GB gets mad if you are a "treadmill team"

The GB gets mad if you lose.

The GB gets mad if your team is too good.

The GB gets mad if you have a player they don't like.
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Post#1412 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu May 13, 2021 5:20 pm

I'm not giving up this years pick but I would be interested.


If OKC ends up w/ the HOU pick, flipping it for JJJ would be a great move.

G - Suggs (OKC FRP)
G - SGA
F - Williams
F - Poku
C - JJJ

That looks really nice on paper.
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Post#1413 » by retrobro90 » Thu May 13, 2021 6:13 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
I'm not giving up this years pick but I would be interested.


If OKC ends up w/ the HOU pick, flipping it for JJJ would be a great move.

G - Suggs (OKC FRP)
G - SGA
F - Williams
F - Poku
C - JJJ

That looks really nice on paper.


I'd pass personally. Not crazy about JJJ even when he's healthy. Hasn't lived up to his defensive reputation and can't stay healthy. I'd rather take whoever's available at #5 especially if it's a wing or perimeter guy.
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Post#1414 » by mr570 » Fri May 14, 2021 4:53 pm

ThunderBorn wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:
ThunderBorn wrote:Hypothetically, say we get the 1st pick in this draft. Houston falls out of the top 4. Would we still get Houston’s pick or would it be Miami’s pick? To my understanding we would keep our pick and since we have a swap with Houston. They would get to keep their pick (outside of top 4). So that would leave us with pick 1 and Miami’s pick.... help me out here


OKC would get the rockets pick if it’s outside the top 4 even if OKC was picking 1st.


I thought pick swap meant the best of the 2 picks. We don’t own the rockets pick this year, like we do next year.

No the Rockets willingly gave their pick to swap with 1-4 protection. It's the Rocket's obligation to swap if they meet requirements, not the Thunder's.
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Post#1415 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri May 14, 2021 5:51 pm

I'd pass personally. Not crazy about JJJ even when he's healthy. Hasn't lived up to his defensive reputation and can't stay healthy. I'd rather take whoever's available at #5 especially if it's a wing or perimeter guy.


It would be risky. I personally am not high on Kuminga so it would be more tempting for me.

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