Game 68: OKC Thunder @ Memphis Grizzlies Aug 7, 3pm CST

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Re: Game 68: OKC Thunder @ Memphis Grizzlies Aug 7, 3pm CST 

Post#2 » by getrichordie » Fri Aug 7, 2020 6:00 pm

JV vs. SA should be a fun matchup...

I don't want us to lose, but I want our pick, too. So conflicted...
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getrichordie wrote:JV vs. SA should be a fun matchup...

I don't want us to lose, but I want our pick, too. So conflicted...

What are the rules for that pick both this year and in the future?
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Re: Game 68: OKC Thunder @ Memphis Grizzlies Aug 7, 3pm CST 

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getrichordie wrote:JV vs. SA should be a fun matchup...

I don't want us to lose, but I want our pick, too. So conflicted...

What are the rules for that pick both this year and in the future?

If we finish outside the top ten, we keep the pick. If we finish in the top ten, Philly gets 2 future seconds.
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getrichordie wrote:JV vs. SA should be a fun matchup...

I don't want us to lose, but I want our pick, too. So conflicted...

What are the rules for that pick both this year and in the future?

If we finish outside the top ten, we keep the pick. If we finish in the top ten, Philly gets 2 future seconds.


Okay so either way Philly gets something. Just the difference between a late first or two future seconds. Would be nice to keep the pick but with all the draft picks OKC has I do not know if it is a dramatic need. In fact OKC might even be able to get Philly or another team to give up a late pick for the second rounders plus 3 million.
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Post#6 » by NaturalThunder » Fri Aug 7, 2020 8:52 pm

This is on track for one of the worst quarters in OKC history. 7:10 into the quarter and we're currently being outscored 20-3. At least we had a 12 point lead at the end of the 1st so we're not getting blown out...yet.
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Galloisdaman wrote:What are the rules for that pick both this year and in the future?

If we finish outside the top ten, we keep the pick. If we finish in the top ten, Philly gets 2 future seconds.


Okay so either way Philly gets something. Just the difference between a late first or two future seconds. Would be nice to keep the pick but with all the draft picks OKC has I do not know if it is a dramatic need. In fact OKC might even be able to get Philly or another team to give up a late pick for the second rounders plus 3 million.

Until we actually have a young core besides Shai, I think there is a need regardless of how many picks we have at a later date. That's just my opinion.
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Re: Game 68: OKC Thunder @ Memphis Grizzlies Aug 7, 3pm CST 

Post#8 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Aug 7, 2020 9:08 pm

I feel like Shai has the ability and moves in his skill set to be a great offensive player but he becomes a little too predictable by relying on the shots he's most comfortable with and the defense know it.
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Re: Game 68: OKC Thunder @ Memphis Grizzlies Aug 7, 3pm CST 

Post#9 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Aug 7, 2020 9:36 pm

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Post#10 » by NaturalThunder » Fri Aug 7, 2020 9:53 pm

We may come back and win this, but if not, our losses would be weird. Lost to the injury-riddled Nuggets and losing to the injury-riddled Grizz who have been awful in the bubble.

As great as we were in the 1st quarter, we've been even worse in the 2nd and 3rd quarters: outscored 70-41 in the 2nd and 3rd combined. And if we get the 6-seed, we will not beat the Nuggets. If we have any hope of winning our 1st round series, we need to be the 4 or 5 and play the Jazz or Rockets.
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Post#11 » by Galloisdaman » Fri Aug 7, 2020 9:56 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:If we finish outside the top ten, we keep the pick. If we finish in the top ten, Philly gets 2 future seconds.


Okay so either way Philly gets something. Just the difference between a late first or two future seconds. Would be nice to keep the pick but with all the draft picks OKC has I do not know if it is a dramatic need. In fact OKC might even be able to get Philly or another team to give up a late pick for the second rounders plus 3 million.

Until we actually have a young core besides Shai, I think there is a need regardless of how many picks we have at a later date. That's just my opinion.

I agree that it would be better to have it than not have it. I just do not have a really high value on picks in the 20's. That is not to say they cant become good players but usually they are not usually all star players. Sikiam and Butler were picked in the 20's so sometimes that is wrong but what are the odds? Sometimes in the past teams could buy late first round picks because better teams do not want to add another guaranteed contract for a marginal prospect. Actually Brian Windhorst just said he thought some teams could be willing to sell their first round picks this season partly because of Covid. Owners are feeling some financial pain this season.
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Post#12 » by getrichordie » Fri Aug 7, 2020 10:02 pm

NaturalThunder wrote:We may come back and win this, but if not, our losses would be weird. Lost to the injury-riddled Grizzlies and losing to the injury-riddled Grizz who have been awful in the bubble.

As great as we were in the 1st quarter, we've been even worse in the 2nd and 3rd quarters: outscored 70-41 in the 2nd and 3rd combined. And if we get the 6-seed, we will not beat the Nuggets. If we have any hope of winning our 1st round series, we need to be the 4 or 5 and play the Jazz or Rockets.


Not really... we are w/o Schroder and Adams, two key players. Schroder allows us to run our famous 3-PG lineup and Noel isn't a proven starter by any measure...
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Okay so either way Philly gets something. Just the difference between a late first or two future seconds. Would be nice to keep the pick but with all the draft picks OKC has I do not know if it is a dramatic need. In fact OKC might even be able to get Philly or another team to give up a late pick for the second rounders plus 3 million.

Until we actually have a young core besides Shai, I think there is a need regardless of how many picks we have at a later date. That's just my opinion.

I agree that it would be better to have it than not have it. I just do not have a really high value on picks in the 20's. That is not to say they cant become good players but usually they are not usually all star players. Sikiam and Butler were picked in the 20's so sometimes that is wrong but what are the odds? Sometimes in the past teams could buy late first round picks because better teams do not want to add another guaranteed contract for a marginal prospect. Actually Brian Windhorst just said he thought some teams could be willing to sell their first round picks this season partly because of Covid. Owners are feeling some financial pain this season.

Ironically the last time a team purchased a frp it was Utah and they drafted Rudy gobert who made his first all star game this year. Plus there is the possibility of using our pick plus the Denver pick to move up in the draft to get a better pick.
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Post#14 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Aug 7, 2020 10:17 pm

Bazley’s scrimmage bubble success against scrub trailblazers team was fools gold. His shots are all over the place. The only thing making him look good is Diallo’s box score.
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Post#15 » by NaturalThunder » Fri Aug 7, 2020 10:21 pm

getrichordie wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:We may come back and win this, but if not, our losses would be weird. Lost to the injury-riddled Grizzlies and losing to the injury-riddled Grizz who have been awful in the bubble.

As great as we were in the 1st quarter, we've been even worse in the 2nd and 3rd quarters: outscored 70-41 in the 2nd and 3rd combined. And if we get the 6-seed, we will not beat the Nuggets. If we have any hope of winning our 1st round series, we need to be the 4 or 5 and play the Jazz or Rockets.


Not really... we are w/o Schroder and Adams, two key players. Schroder allows us to run our famous 3-PG lineup and Noel isn't a proven starter by any measure...

Eh...fair enough, but they don't have JJJ and they had been pretty bad in the bubble (0-4 coming into today). Sure, they had a couple of close losses, so maybe they were due. Losing to them by 30 is still a pretty yuck/bad loss even without Schroder or Adams.
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Post#16 » by Galloisdaman » Fri Aug 7, 2020 10:36 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
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ThunderBolt wrote:Until we actually have a young core besides Shai, I think there is a need regardless of how many picks we have at a later date. That's just my opinion.

I agree that it would be better to have it than not have it. I just do not have a really high value on picks in the 20's. That is not to say they cant become good players but usually they are not usually all star players. Sikiam and Butler were picked in the 20's so sometimes that is wrong but what are the odds? Sometimes in the past teams could buy late first round picks because better teams do not want to add another guaranteed contract for a marginal prospect. Actually Brian Windhorst just said he thought some teams could be willing to sell their first round picks this season partly because of Covid. Owners are feeling some financial pain this season.

Ironically the last time a team purchased a frp it was Utah and they drafted Rudy gobert who made his first all star game this year. Plus there is the possibility of using our pick plus the Denver pick to move up in the draft to get a better pick.


I want OKC to have that pick if possible. Considering there is no home court advantage the downside is limited as long as they do make the playoffs.

Yeah that was a killer move for Utah. They really nailed that one and I forgot about Rudy when I mentioned the all stars that came from picks in the 20's. Gallo was on Denver at that point but I think that was not only a cash sale but a player trade if I remember correctly. Think Denver got Green or somebody from Utah in a preplanned deal.

Speaking of Gallo another 19 minute game. Not a big deal but I wish I knew why his minutes are so low each game. Gallo was the only plus OKC player in the game.
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Post#17 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Aug 7, 2020 10:40 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:
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Galloisdaman wrote:I agree that it would be better to have it than not have it. I just do not have a really high value on picks in the 20's. That is not to say they cant become good players but usually they are not usually all star players. Sikiam and Butler were picked in the 20's so sometimes that is wrong but what are the odds? Sometimes in the past teams could buy late first round picks because better teams do not want to add another guaranteed contract for a marginal prospect. Actually Brian Windhorst just said he thought some teams could be willing to sell their first round picks this season partly because of Covid. Owners are feeling some financial pain this season.

Ironically the last time a team purchased a frp it was Utah and they drafted Rudy gobert who made his first all star game this year. Plus there is the possibility of using our pick plus the Denver pick to move up in the draft to get a better pick.


I want OKC to have that pick if possible. Considering there is no home court advantage the downside is limited as long as they do make the playoffs.

Yeah that was a killer move for Utah. They really nailed that one and I forgot about Rudy when I mentioned the all stars that came from picks in the 20's. Gallo was on Denver at that point but I think that was not only a cash sale but a player trade if I remember correctly. Think Denver got Green or somebody from Utah in a preplanned deal.

Speaking of Gallo another 19 minute game. Not a big deal but I wish I knew why his minutes are so low each game. Gallo was the only plus OKC player in the game.



The Gallo minute situation has been odd.i had the game on my computer at work but didn’t get to watch as closely as I would have liked. Not sure if today was a result of just throwing in the towel early but bazley’s play wasn’t deserving of 27 minutes in a competitive game.
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Post#18 » by getrichordie » Sat Aug 8, 2020 12:32 am

MEM had a lot more to play for in this game.
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Post#19 » by thor19 » Sat Aug 8, 2020 1:02 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Ironically the last time a team purchased a frp it was Utah and they drafted Rudy gobert who made his first all star game this year. Plus there is the possibility of using our pick plus the Denver pick to move up in the draft to get a better pick.


I want OKC to have that pick if possible. Considering there is no home court advantage the downside is limited as long as they do make the playoffs.

Yeah that was a killer move for Utah. They really nailed that one and I forgot about Rudy when I mentioned the all stars that came from picks in the 20's. Gallo was on Denver at that point but I think that was not only a cash sale but a player trade if I remember correctly. Think Denver got Green or somebody from Utah in a preplanned deal.

Speaking of Gallo another 19 minute game. Not a big deal but I wish I knew why his minutes are so low each game. Gallo was the only plus OKC player in the game.



The Gallo minute situation has been odd.i had the game on my computer at work but didn’t get to watch as closely as I would have liked. Not sure if today was a result of just throwing in the towel early but bazley’s play wasn’t deserving of 27 minutes in a competitive game.

Maybe they are giving him rest for playoff, I want Gallo healty when playoff start, if we can give more minutes to Bazley for develop purpose im fine with that
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Post#20 » by getrichordie » Sat Aug 8, 2020 3:29 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Ironically the last time a team purchased a frp it was Utah and they drafted Rudy gobert who made his first all star game this year. Plus there is the possibility of using our pick plus the Denver pick to move up in the draft to get a better pick.


I want OKC to have that pick if possible. Considering there is no home court advantage the downside is limited as long as they do make the playoffs.

Yeah that was a killer move for Utah. They really nailed that one and I forgot about Rudy when I mentioned the all stars that came from picks in the 20's. Gallo was on Denver at that point but I think that was not only a cash sale but a player trade if I remember correctly. Think Denver got Green or somebody from Utah in a preplanned deal.

Speaking of Gallo another 19 minute game. Not a big deal but I wish I knew why his minutes are so low each game. Gallo was the only plus OKC player in the game.



The Gallo minute situation has been odd.i had the game on my computer at work but didn’t get to watch as closely as I would have liked. Not sure if today was a result of just throwing in the towel early but bazley’s play wasn’t deserving of 27 minutes in a competitive game.


I don't think the game was necessarily "competitive"...

I'm sure this is just asset management by Mr. Presti...
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