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[tkunit]

My bad.

[floppymoose]

speaking of witch I guess a good trade is going down 32 up 101 I dont have alot like this and i dare you to find and say what were my one side trades are. LOL :p I see a clear winner in J but i guess we all do trades to lose - I think this might be the best year to tank ft from the last 7 i been playing FFL since they are a ton of players that fit

J wb 147 174 115 275
J floppy115 275 147 174

Hey, there's a reason I said that wb should stop trading.

In my defense:
1) I read my email and this trade was there. It's not like I made some big sales pitch. I just took an offer that came to me - I didn't make a counter-offer and try to get more.
2) while I think that was a bad trade for wb in theoretical value, that's not as important as if the picks had been higher. Once you get in the second half of the draft, the distance between how two managers rank the remaining players can be huge. Every year there are a few top 100 players who go in the second half. If wb feels strongly that Aminu is one of those and fills a need, the deal may be fine for him. Once teams become somewhat defined in the second half of the draft, it's absolutely possible to have win-win trades.

He's basically saying he'd rather have Aminu and a free agent pickup than have 147/174. Not necessarily wrong. It all depends on Aminu.

[fraanciiscoo]

speaking of witch.....

He's basically saying he'd rather have Aminu and a free agent pickup than have 147/174. Not necessarily wrong. It all depends on Aminu...

speaking of witch when desire meets opp = trade
I totally agree with you thats why i make trades
and its probably where I get most fun
this been no different than others
I m nornally #1 in trades but this year i had #1 I could go AD bosh teague Thad beal yeah i would be fine ( if i keep my pick but theres no fun in that )
the problem is not in the trade i make its in the information I know about players - i even think i overpay in a few

[Curtis Lemansky]

Guys we are at a frustrating snail-like pace right now. Even gm's who appear to be around 24/7, inexplicably seems to be gone away when it is their turn to pick. If this continues at a similar pace until Wednesday, the pick time will be reduced to 6 hours. So please everyone make a concerted effort to make your picks as quickly as possible. That means:

1) Make your research BEFORE it is your turn.
2) In a similar vein, do your trade talks BEFORE you are on the clock. At the very least have some exploratory talks before your turn to weigh in your options, then you can quickly finalize your talks when your turn is up.
3) Just send a list, if your pick is approaching and you need to be away for awhile from your computer due to work / sleep etc. We have two groups of managers in 2 different timezones so we always have someone around to take lists. I have no more picks until 250's so feel free to send your list to me if you need to.

[floppymoose]

(responding to fran's post - gocke got one in while i was writing)

not trying to be a dick, but to be helpful:
it's "speaking of which", not "speaking of witch".
The first means, "while we are on that topic".
The second means, "while we are talking about the woman riding the broom".

[sabonis]

micro-reviews:
sabonis: I like Bogut as a value pick at 144, but once he comes out of the gate strong you need to trade him. he doesn't fit. I like Jamal at 191. I like Lopez at 97. I think Frye may be done and TJ may have to wait another year. I guess Rubio is there for the steals? His fg% doesn't seem to fit and his assists seem a bit wasted. Might be another good sell high opportunity if he starts strong.

since brainstorming, discussing is the fun part for me at this time of year, here are my counter comments.

- Bogut fits perfectly as you might notice that I've tanked points.
- I don't think Frye is done, since he's usually a clutch shooter and a spacing 4. But he was really lackluster in the preseason game. Although in scrimmages he was quite good (both from what I watched and read)
- Rubio is there for both steals and assists, if you look closely my assists should be at least competitive with my forwards helping out. Yeah his FG% does not necessarily fit but I think my team can carry him somewhat. Especially if he gets to 40%
- I agree that TJ may have to wait another year, although I think he will blossom in the second half of the season and he has great potential with above 50% fg, good rebounds, good scoring, good steals and even blocks. People say he improved his 3pt as well. Instead of a vetera (Tony Allen), I wanted to go for a high reward player.

[floppymoose]

Rubio will mean you beat the tank-assist teams in assists at the very least, so he's probably worth it just for that.
Your Bogut comments make some sense. I was thinking poor ft% was bad for you, but he doesn't shoot enough ft to matter.

[fraanciiscoo]

(responding to fran's post - gocke got one in while i was writing)

not trying to be a dick, but to be helpful:
it's "speaking of which", not "speaking of witch".
The first means, "while we are on that topic".
The second means, "while we are talking about the woman riding the broom".

ahahahahahahahahah sorry ahhahahahahaha
i´m such a dumbass sometimes ahahahahaha
I stand corrected ty for helping me with my writting english

[fraanciiscoo]

micro-reviews:
sabonis: I like Bogut as a value pick at 144, but once he comes out of the gate strong you need to trade him. he doesn't fit. I like Jamal at 191. I like Lopez at 97. I think Frye may be done and TJ may have to wait another year. I guess Rubio is there for the steals? His fg% doesn't seem to fit and his assists seem a bit wasted. Might be another good sell high opportunity if he starts strong.

since brainstorming, discussing is the fun part for me at this time of year, here are my counter comments.

- Bogut fits perfectly as you might notice that I've tanked points.

I agree the only problem with him is the way they used last year on the playoffs if they prefer to go small or to use other C. There´s also questions regarding his durability
I like him i though I could pick him with a pick i had before just thought hood had more trade value ( i was right and i could get other guys that were falling cause they should been picked earllier

- I don't think Frye is done, since he's usually a clutch shooter and a spacing 4. But he was really lackluster in the preseason game. Although in scrimmages he was quite good (both from what I watched and read)

You are on a quest cmon do you really belive what you are saying ? he is done - he will have value in his last year - if orlando want to shipping him now they got to send a 1st just horrible player horrible contract. Ps do you think when you say the same thing over and over again it gets close to the truth? your you doing your best to trade him ?

- Rubio is there for both steals and assists, if you look closely my assists should be at least competitive with my forwards helping out. Yeah his FG% does not necessarily fit but I think my team can carry him somewhat. Especially if he gets to 40%

I like rubio
I like rubio on your team
but you got to realize he wont be .400% fg player cause he never was and wont ever be
Not to mention the inj risk he have - now you probably going to say : - " both from what I watched and read he going to improve his Fg to .400 and going to play 82 games " Again Not going to happend

- I agree that TJ may have to wait another year, although I think he will blossom in the second half of the season and he has great potential with above 50% fg, good rebounds, good scoring, good steals and even blocks. People say he improved his 3pt as well. Instead of a vetera (Tony Allen), I wanted to go for a high reward player.

this is the good part for you I do belive he is ready and this was not only a good fit pick but also a great pick I belive he will end with 10 3 1 1 0.8 with great fg and low to dont expect much from his 3pt but he will be top 150 this year and since you picked him late 170 its a great pick imo

[floppymoose]

heck TJ was ready last year. The question is opportunity.

[AlciG]

Picking is going to be tough for me. I have no real clue as to who are still available. Being on holidays during draft sucks


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[fraanciiscoo]

Picking is going to be tough for me. I have no real clue as to who are still available. Being on holidays during draft sucks


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email me i will help you bud no worries

[stick]

Ive used my phone a few times for this but goddamn realgm sucks on mobile

[fraanciiscoo]

Alcig its done check your mail

[AlciG]

Alcig its done check your mail

Will check later. Don't have phone on me at the moment. Just iPad


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[Hopper15]

65 picks until my last one and I have a 71-man list (not in any kind of order). So I should be good.

[jfrost]

Trade to announce:

Fran send Ellis 226 229 FOR Fran gets beal 210 223
Frost send griffin beal pj schroder 210 223 FOR Frost gets Gasol ellis Kobe olynyk 253 275
wb send gasol Kobe Olynyk 253 275 FOR Wb gets griffin pjtucker schroder 226 229

[writersblock]

Trade to announce:

Fran send Ellis 226 229 FOR Fran gets beal 210 223
Frost send griffin beal pj schroder 210 223 FOR Frost gets Gasol ellis Kobe olynyk 253 275
wb send gasol Kobe Olynyk 253 275 FOR Wb gets griffin pjtucker schroder 226 229

Accepted.
Major Props to Fran for working this deal out. It's been back and forth for 2 weeks now.
Also, this officially enshrines Fran as Master Trader. I don't think anyone else comes close.

New picks
Fran 210 217 218 223 224
Frost 253 254 255 257 275
wb 226 228 229 240 264

[fraanciiscoo]

Trade to announce:

Fran send Ellis 226 229 FOR Fran gets beal 210 223
Frost send griffin beal pj schroder 210 223 FOR Frost gets Gasol ellis Kobe olynyk 253 275
wb send gasol Kobe Olynyk 253 275 FOR Wb gets griffin pjtucker schroder 226 229

Accepted.
Major Props to Fran for working this deal out. It's been back and forth for 2 weeks now.
Also, this officially enshrines Fran as Master Trader. I don't think anyone else comes close.

New picks
Fran 210 217 218 223 224
Frost 253 254 255 257 275
wb 226 228 229 240 264

Its always nice to can help
this is the type of deal that by projections and after looking @my team i dont think i win
outside helping this two nerds that can´t agree on the collor of the green light
I saw a couple of teams are tanking 3pts and it will be sweet to get a few 3pts and win vs theirs teams
ast wise i dont lose that much
and with pp leaving who´s in was to score outside him wall and gortart lower to was also +1
Lets do this I accept

[jfrost]

Yes, Fran is the trade master!

My updated team:

PG - Monta Ellis
SG - Klay Thompson
SF - Kobe Bryant
PF - Kevin Love
C - Marc Gasol
B - Karl-Anthony Towns
B - Zack LaVine
B - Kelly Olynyk
B - 253
B - 254
B - 255
B - 257
B - 275

Tanking FG/TO, other categories are looking strong.