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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#961 » by floppymoose » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:57 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:Speaking of success in the league. I've determined that the #1 factor isn't drafting. Or trading. Or team building. It's injuries. They are just an over the top element in a league this large. I don't really care how well you drafted, traded, and built your team, if your first round pick goes down for the year you are toast. So, I tried to avoid obvious injury risks this year, but, it's impossible to avoid injuries with any real ability.


Yeah, the year I finished 19th, I picked at or near the turns and my first round pick was Horford. He was young. He was an iron man. He still went down for the year. As you say, I was toast.
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#962 » by floppymoose » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:14 pm

sabonis wrote:That's what I don't like the free agents much. Most US time zone guys who watch the games and Europeans with a loose sleeping schedule get an advantage over others. In a league this size, finding a top 120 free agent can push you to the championship.


In the fantasy baseball league I'm in at work, we use a FAAB (free agent acquisition budget) and only process waivers twice a week. That means everyone gets a shot at a player, and how much of your budget you are willing to spend decides if you get him. Something to consider for this league (but not this year) if people feel the way you do about free agents.
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Post#963 » by bww78 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:58 pm

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sabonis wrote:That's what I don't like the free agents much. Most US time zone guys who watch the games and Europeans with a loose sleeping schedule get an advantage over others. In a league this size, finding a top 120 free agent can push you to the championship.


In the fantasy baseball league I'm in at work, we use a FAAB (free agent acquisition budget) and only process waivers twice a week. That means everyone gets a shot at a player, and how much of your budget you are willing to spend decides if you get him. Something to consider for this league (but not this year) if people feel the way you do about free agents.


I tried to implement something like this a couple of years ago, but I got vociferously voted down by the Waiver Wire vultures.
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#964 » by floppymoose » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:44 pm

two complete longshots with my last two picks. something tells me fran is not on board with those. Andray doesn't have a team, and will be worthless if he ends up somewhere like Miami. Robinson was hardly above where I picked him last year before he got hurt. he'd have to both return to form from two years ago AND get opportunity.

But this is the part of the draft where I take big chances.

I like the O'Quinn and Landry picks, btw. They were both on my short list.
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Post#965 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:22 pm

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sabonis wrote:That's what I don't like the free agents much. Most US time zone guys who watch the games and Europeans with a loose sleeping schedule get an advantage over others. In a league this size, finding a top 120 free agent can push you to the championship.


In the fantasy baseball league I'm in at work, we use a FAAB (free agent acquisition budget) and only process waivers twice a week. That means everyone gets a shot at a player, and how much of your budget you are willing to spend decides if you get him. Something to consider for this league (but not this year) if people feel the way you do about free agents.


I tried to implement something like this a couple of years ago, but I got vociferously voted down by the Waiver Wire vultures.


I can imagine it would be a hard sell. and would probably take a large chunk of the fun out of the game for folks that have the time and resources to monitor every injury and lineup start. I would imagine that's rather part of the fun for those folks. Let em have the advantage I guess. They certainly have to earn it. It's not their fault I have better things to do. (now for folks that are hampered by time zone considerations and would like to be able to take advantage but can't... THOSE folks should be able to make a good argument. I just don't think there are enough of those folks)
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Post#966 » by hamncheese » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:07 pm

I was one of the people in favor of FAAB w/ continuous waivers to level things out, I forgot when we brought it up because usually early summer only has the hardcore people, and when everyone is around, it's too close to season to change rules.

One of my leagues has continuous waivers/same day add/daily with FAAB and it seemed to work fine with no complaints.
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Post#967 » by fraanciiscoo » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:19 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:Eh. I looked at some of those lists. Came away unimpressed. I find them mostly useful to help me remember guys off my radar, like a Gallanari or someone who was injured all year.

I prefer to use my own noggin rather than pay 'experts' for the use of theirs. (this probably explains my rather middle of the road level of success in the league)

Speaking of success in the league. I've determined that the #1 factor isn't drafting. Or trading. Or team building. It's injuries. They are just an over the top element in a league this large. I don't really care how well you drafted, traded, and built your team, if your first round pick goes down for the year you are toast. So, I tried to avoid obvious injury risks this year, but, it's impossible to avoid injuries with any real ability.


I guess thats why you, wb and the_man decided to trade your #1
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Post#968 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:22 pm

Yeah, trading out of the first round lowers my injury exposure a tad (but if Bosh goes down I'm still toast) and by having a team drafted wholly in the early to mid rounds gets rid of having to compete for waiver wire dudes except for injury replacements.

So, it addresses 2 of my main concerns. I can definitely see trading up as a strategy if you ARE able to mine the waiver wire effectively. I'm just not able to do so. But, I salute those that are, you are really on top of the game.
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Post#969 » by fraanciiscoo » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:24 pm

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jazzfan1971 wrote:
3Si wrote:Injury plays a big part. Not only if you have a player down, but also who you pickup while a player is injured. I had quite a few injuries last year including my top picks. But I was also lucky enough to pick up some players like Meeks that played well due to an injured player. This is by far the toughest league that I have been in. A couple top 3 finishes in how many years now? Still no championship... :oops:


I haven't had the abiltiy to grab one of those lucky free agents in years now. The waiver wire has been mostly a wasteland for me. I'm usually about 4-6 hours behind WB and Fran for getting to a player. Maybe Im' missing a phone alert system or something, whatever the reason I can't compete on the waiver wire in this league.


That's what I don't like the free agents much. Most US time zone guys who watch the games and Europeans with a loose sleeping schedule get an advantage over others. In a league this size, finding a top 120 free agent can push you to the championship.

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you are 4-6hours behind me and wb cause we know how important that is to watch games lose sleeping hours and grab nice guys
you just beeing layzy

Like sabonis said european guys got a huge disadvantage the 1st game starts @00:00am the last normally @3:30am and they finish above 5:40am so pls stop the madness !!!
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Post#970 » by jazzfan1971 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:30 pm

fraanciiscoo wrote:you just beeing layzy



I thought that was what I said. (not in so many words though)
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Post#971 » by floppymoose » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:35 pm

Dammit Uhura I need a franslation!

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Post#972 » by floppymoose » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:06 am

breaking news.... first i traded away CP3 in FFDL, and now... WESTBROOK!

wtf am I doing?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :crazy: :-o :clown:
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Post#973 » by hamncheese » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:18 am

floppymoose wrote:breaking news.... first i traded away CP3 in FFDL, and now... WESTBROOK!

wtf am I doing?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :crazy: :-o :clown:



CP3 was for Curry if I remember correctly, which I think is great. But Westbrook for Noel and the 7th pick, I am not sure of. Bold for sure.
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Post#974 » by floppymoose » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:43 am

yeah, the other trade was CP3/Wade/JeffGreen for Curry/Beal/Ariza.
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Post#975 » by writersblock » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:39 am

jazzfan1971 wrote:
3Si wrote:Injury plays a big part. Not only if you have a player down, but also who you pickup while a player is injured. I had quite a few injuries last year including my top picks. But I was also lucky enough to pick up some players like Meeks that played well due to an injured player. This is by far the toughest league that I have been in. A couple top 3 finishes in how many years now? Still no championship... :oops:


I haven't had the abiltiy to grab one of those lucky free agents in years now. The waiver wire has been mostly a wasteland for me. I'm usually about 4-6 hours behind WB and Fran for getting to a player. Maybe Im' missing a phone alert system or something, whatever the reason I can't compete on the waiver wire in this league.


For the record, I can't watch any games (I haven't been able to for several years). My waiver wire acumen has been based almost completely on news updates, my own personal research, and more often than not, my gut feeling. Of course, I tend to drop more often too because of my gut feeling, which has helped quite a few people in this league.

Last year, I grabbed Terrence Jones after one good game because I remembered he had potential the year before. I was frankly surprised that he was just sitting there. It had nothing to do with getting there seconds after a good game (I believe I picked him up a few days later). The thing I despise about changing the waiver wire rules is that it puts everyone on an equal footing, particularly those who don't deserve one. So yes, I may be one of those waiver wire vultures, but it also takes a lot of hard work and focus (none of which has anything to do with watching games or having a time advantage). In a league this competitive, I think implementing waiver wire rules that put people on equal footing just gives the lazy an advantage they don't deserve. Sorry to be so curt, but that's my opinion.

Now, fortunately, me being here in Italy and my very little time to devote to research is going to keep me mostly off the waiver wire hunt until at least January. So there will be more pickings for everyone else. You're all welcome! :)
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Post#976 » by floppymoose » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:02 am

But if you have a FAAB budget, it's still about doing the research. The "midnight race" part is gone, but the knowledge and hard work part isn't.
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Post#977 » by writersblock » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:34 am

floppymoose wrote:But if you have a FAAB budget, it's still about doing the research. The "midnight race" part is gone, but the knowledge and hard work part isn't.


The midnight race is overblown, IMO. People tend to pick up people quickly when there's an injury (news is subject to happen at any given time) or whenever they think someone could have a good game.

One other thing that's gone in the FAAB budget model is the "active" part. Having a waiver time limit gives everyone equal footing to grab someone.
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Post#978 » by writersblock » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:04 pm

Dang, and here I thought Aminu and Fournier would last until the 230s. I guess that was a little crazy to think they'd slide...
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Re: FFL 2014-2015 - Draft under way 

Post#979 » by sabonis » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:18 am

I like these late picks: Webster, Fournier, Jason Smith, Mcdermott, Lamb. All of them has potential to crack top 150. I decided between Jason Smith and Cody Zeller. Hate to see my 2nd choice getting picked so quickly. Hope I made the right decision
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Post#980 » by fraanciiscoo » Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:03 pm

I have the 2 picks of jfrost
theres a doubt if he have the 221 and 222
can someone confirm me pls
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