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Re: NBA Free Agency — 2025 Edition 

Post#141 » by DukeLecker » Fri Jul 4, 2025 6:05 pm

keynote wrote:I'd be willing to include AJ Johnson in a trade for Kuminga, provided that we didn't include any picks.

I don’t see GSW taking on such a raw unseasoned player like Johnson. He’d provide no help because Kerr wouldn’t trust him.
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Post#142 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri Jul 4, 2025 6:38 pm

DCZards wrote:I think the guy who helps GS the most is McCollum. He stays on the move when he’s on the court and can play well on or off the ball. That aligns closely with what GS does offensively.

CJ is a good fit for the Warriors given their desire to stay competitive while Steph is still around,



Yeah CJ makes sense.

Maybe something like CJ, Tristan, Dillon Jones, 2026 1st (late 1st from Philly) & the top 20 protected 1st we got from GS (can't remember I think its 2029 or 2030)



A future built on Sarr, Kuminga, Bilal, Tre, Bub with Kyshawn, JC, Watkins, Riley, AJ off the bench....

Top 5 pick in '26....

I like it.
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Post#143 » by TheBlackCzar » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:22 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
DCZards wrote:I think the guy who helps GS the most is McCollum. He stays on the move when he’s on the court and can play well on or off the ball. That aligns closely with what GS does offensively.

CJ is a good fit for the Warriors given their desire to stay competitive while Steph is still around,



Yeah CJ makes sense.

Maybe something like CJ, Tristan, Dillon Jones, 2026 1st (late 1st from Philly) & the top 20 protected 1st we got from GS (can't remember I think its 2029 or 2030)



A future built on Sarr, Kuminga, Bilal, Tre, Bub with Kyshawn, JC, Watkins, Riley, AJ off the bench....

Top 5 pick in '26....

I like it.



why are we giving all this up in a sign and trade?
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Post#144 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:55 pm

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SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
DCZards wrote:I think the guy who helps GS the most is McCollum. He stays on the move when he’s on the court and can play well on or off the ball. That aligns closely with what GS does offensively.

CJ is a good fit for the Warriors given their desire to stay competitive while Steph is still around,



Yeah CJ makes sense.

Maybe something like CJ, Tristan, Dillon Jones, 2026 1st (late 1st from Philly) & the top 20 protected 1st we got from GS (can't remember I think its 2029 or 2030)



A future built on Sarr, Kuminga, Bilal, Tre, Bub with Kyshawn, JC, Watkins, Riley, AJ off the bench....

Top 5 pick in '26....

I like it.



why are we giving all this up in a sign and trade?



We're not the only team interested. And its really not that much, CJ is an expiring we acquired to get off JP's contract and isn't a part of our long term plans, but fits on a win now GS team. Dillon Jones still has some perceived value as a recent 1st round pick but we already have a lot of young wings. Neither have played a minute for us. And Tristan has skill and upside but just doesn't seem much of a priority for us and is a RFA on a preliminary 2-way. He might just be a better fit on GS. The 2 1sts are both late 1sts.

Kuminga a 22/23 yr old defensive and athletic PF would fit perfectly on the Wizards, the type of players we're building on and the style of play we want.


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Re: NBA Free Agency — 2025 Edition 

Post#145 » by joshuacf » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:28 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
TheBlackCzar wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:

Yeah CJ makes sense.

Maybe something like CJ, Tristan, Dillon Jones, 2026 1st (late 1st from Philly) & the top 20 protected 1st we got from GS (can't remember I think its 2029 or 2030)



A future built on Sarr, Kuminga, Bilal, Tre, Bub with Kyshawn, JC, Watkins, Riley, AJ off the bench....

Top 5 pick in '26....

I like it.



why are we giving all this up in a sign and trade?



We're not the only team interested. And its really not that much, CJ is an expiring we acquired to get off JP's contract and isn't a part of our long term plans, but fits on a win now GS team. Dillon Jones still has some perceived value as a recent 1st round pick but we already have a lot of young wings. Neither have played a minute for us. And Tristan has skill and upside but just doesn't seem much of a priority for us and is a RFA on a preliminary 2-way. He might just be a better fit on GS. The 2 1sts are both late 1sts.

Kuminga a 22/23 yr old defensive and athletic PF would fit perfectly on the Wizards, the type of players we're building on and the style of play we want.


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I wouldn't give up nearly that much for Kuminga (who I like).

CJ is a valuable asset in-and-of-himself. Anything more than, say, CJ and Dillion Jones would be an overpay. I don't know what the deal is with Vukcevic, but I'd like to keep him around given our situation at center.
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Re: NBA Free Agency — 2025 Edition 

Post#146 » by gambitx777 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:35 pm

GS has 0 leverage .

Kumminga isn't a star. He's 22 and on his second contract and his development is at least 2-3 years behind where it should be. Now you can talk yourself into him being damaged by the 2 time line thing. Thinking you could jumpstart something.

I would offer their pick back and that's it. What ever contracts need to go is fine but I wouldn't wanna pay him more than mid 20s.

The perfect deal would be their fake first round pick back, smart, and gill for kumminga.
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Their fake pick back and kispert and Holmes for kumminga.

That would put kumminga somewhere in the mid 20s and hopefully on a team friendly declining deal with options.

If they want a package or kispert and smart that puts the contract into the mid 30s and that's a bit too much for my blood.

CJ or Middleton would work but would put the contract in the low to mid 30s and is still too much imo

If they want any picks other than their pick back id say NO!

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Re: NBA Free Agency — 2025 Edition 

Post#147 » by TheBlackCzar » Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:06 am

DCZards wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:Yes. He might add a win or 2, but we're talking going from 20 wins to like 22 lol. He's not a terrible player, I personally think he's been mishandled in Golden State and they screwed up the two timelines thing.

I too believe Kuminga was mishandled. He’d play very well one game and then not see the court the next couple of games. Strange.

Don’t know if there was something going on behind the scenes. But from all accounts Kuminga was a good soldier through it all.



The owners didn't wanna pay him what he was in line to get so they made his playing time inconsistent so you have to take that into consideration....
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Re: NBA Free Agency — 2025 Edition 

Post#148 » by payitforward » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:56 am

All the same, Jonathan Kuminga's value in a trade must be based on what he has actually done and where he actually is in his development -- not on anyone's idea of what he might be now if he'd been handled differently.

The fact that you have a picture in your mind of how terrific he's gonna be is irrelevent.
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Re: NBA Free Agency — 2025 Edition 

Post#149 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:36 am

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AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:I kinda hope we don't sign Kuminga.

We seem to always go after young, incomplete players who couldn't really cut it on their original teams.

This feels like Kyle Kuzma/ Jordan Poole all over again.

I get the concern. The difference is that Kuzma was 26 when we acquired him and Poole was 24. Kuminga is just 22. I just don't think Kuminga is fully developed yet. Kuminga is also a guy who can go get a bucket when an offensive set breaks down. We sorely lack those types of players, particularly now that Poole is gone.

I also think that Golden State runs one of the more unusual offensive systems in the NBA. It's the type of system that's not a great fit for everyone. Some guys just really fit in there (Buddy Hield, GPIII, Otto Porter) and some guys struggle despite being talented (Oubre, Bazemore, DiVincenzo). I think there's a greater likelihood that a change of scenery can help a former Warrior than it could help a guy from some random team.

It's a gamble, but hopefully they can work out a contract that limits any downside risk. We've got plenty of cap room at the moment, but we still need to keep our cap sheet clean for when our young guys need to be resigned. The way I see it, we have a lot of flexibility over the next 3 years. This year, there wouldn't be a cap impact because we are presumably sending out contracts to match Kuminga. Next year, we are $100M under the cap. Even if Kuminga costs $25-30M and we sign a max free agent, we are still okay. The year after that, the only young guy to resign is Bilal, so there's room. It's the year after that where things could be a problem if Kuminga is still on the books at a high price.

So as long as Kuminga signs a 3-year deal with the 4th year a team option, there really isn't much downside. Alternatively, he could sign some type of declining deal where the 4th year salary just isn't very much. Sending out Kispert as part of the S&T deal would also help keep our long term cap in line.



I missed a key stat first go-round: scoring. I think I was so caught up in the areas that stand out as negatives —low steals, blocks, and rebounding— given the positions he play, SF and PF.

His scoring is actually impressive given that he didn’t play starter minutes (I checked his highlights and he has a nicer than imagined offensive skillset), however, I think after so many seasons if a player is putting up similar stats year after year it’s a safe assumption that a certain DNA is inbuilt; I see room for growth offensively mainly as it pertains to his shooting and scoring potential, but I’m not convinced he ever gets so much better as a rebounder or becomes a disruptive defender.

He wouldn’t be filling any holes in the bigger trouble areas that we need shored up, but I think he’d actually be a much better addition to the roster than either Poole or Kuzma were.
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Re: NBA Free Agency — 2025 Edition 

Post#150 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 8, 2025 9:58 pm

Instead of focusing on DJ Kuminga, the Wizards should look to trade with the Bulls to get Jalen Smith.
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Post#151 » by closg00 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:29 pm

I agree with the decision, if only the Wiz had held firm with Beal.
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