keynote wrote:I'd be willing to include AJ Johnson in a trade for Kuminga, provided that we didn't include any picks.
I don’t see GSW taking on such a raw unseasoned player like Johnson. He’d provide no help because Kerr wouldn’t trust him.
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keynote wrote:I'd be willing to include AJ Johnson in a trade for Kuminga, provided that we didn't include any picks.
DCZards wrote:I think the guy who helps GS the most is McCollum. He stays on the move when he’s on the court and can play well on or off the ball. That aligns closely with what GS does offensively.
CJ is a good fit for the Warriors given their desire to stay competitive while Steph is still around,
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:DCZards wrote:I think the guy who helps GS the most is McCollum. He stays on the move when he’s on the court and can play well on or off the ball. That aligns closely with what GS does offensively.
CJ is a good fit for the Warriors given their desire to stay competitive while Steph is still around,
Yeah CJ makes sense.
Maybe something like CJ, Tristan, Dillon Jones, 2026 1st (late 1st from Philly) & the top 20 protected 1st we got from GS (can't remember I think its 2029 or 2030)
A future built on Sarr, Kuminga, Bilal, Tre, Bub with Kyshawn, JC, Watkins, Riley, AJ off the bench....
Top 5 pick in '26....
I like it.
TheBlackCzar wrote:SUPERBALLMAN wrote:DCZards wrote:I think the guy who helps GS the most is McCollum. He stays on the move when he’s on the court and can play well on or off the ball. That aligns closely with what GS does offensively.
CJ is a good fit for the Warriors given their desire to stay competitive while Steph is still around,
Yeah CJ makes sense.
Maybe something like CJ, Tristan, Dillon Jones, 2026 1st (late 1st from Philly) & the top 20 protected 1st we got from GS (can't remember I think its 2029 or 2030)
A future built on Sarr, Kuminga, Bilal, Tre, Bub with Kyshawn, JC, Watkins, Riley, AJ off the bench....
Top 5 pick in '26....
I like it.
why are we giving all this up in a sign and trade?
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:TheBlackCzar wrote:SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
Yeah CJ makes sense.
Maybe something like CJ, Tristan, Dillon Jones, 2026 1st (late 1st from Philly) & the top 20 protected 1st we got from GS (can't remember I think its 2029 or 2030)
A future built on Sarr, Kuminga, Bilal, Tre, Bub with Kyshawn, JC, Watkins, Riley, AJ off the bench....
Top 5 pick in '26....
I like it.
why are we giving all this up in a sign and trade?
We're not the only team interested. And its really not that much, CJ is an expiring we acquired to get off JP's contract and isn't a part of our long term plans, but fits on a win now GS team. Dillon Jones still has some perceived value as a recent 1st round pick but we already have a lot of young wings. Neither have played a minute for us. And Tristan has skill and upside but just doesn't seem much of a priority for us and is a RFA on a preliminary 2-way. He might just be a better fit on GS. The 2 1sts are both late 1sts.
Kuminga a 22/23 yr old defensive and athletic PF would fit perfectly on the Wizards, the type of players we're building on and the style of play we want.
DCZards wrote:Rafael122 wrote:Yes. He might add a win or 2, but we're talking going from 20 wins to like 22 lol. He's not a terrible player, I personally think he's been mishandled in Golden State and they screwed up the two timelines thing.
I too believe Kuminga was mishandled. He’d play very well one game and then not see the court the next couple of games. Strange.
Don’t know if there was something going on behind the scenes. But from all accounts Kuminga was a good soldier through it all.
nate33 wrote:AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:I kinda hope we don't sign Kuminga.
We seem to always go after young, incomplete players who couldn't really cut it on their original teams.
This feels like Kyle Kuzma/ Jordan Poole all over again.
I get the concern. The difference is that Kuzma was 26 when we acquired him and Poole was 24. Kuminga is just 22. I just don't think Kuminga is fully developed yet. Kuminga is also a guy who can go get a bucket when an offensive set breaks down. We sorely lack those types of players, particularly now that Poole is gone.
I also think that Golden State runs one of the more unusual offensive systems in the NBA. It's the type of system that's not a great fit for everyone. Some guys just really fit in there (Buddy Hield, GPIII, Otto Porter) and some guys struggle despite being talented (Oubre, Bazemore, DiVincenzo). I think there's a greater likelihood that a change of scenery can help a former Warrior than it could help a guy from some random team.
It's a gamble, but hopefully they can work out a contract that limits any downside risk. We've got plenty of cap room at the moment, but we still need to keep our cap sheet clean for when our young guys need to be resigned. The way I see it, we have a lot of flexibility over the next 3 years. This year, there wouldn't be a cap impact because we are presumably sending out contracts to match Kuminga. Next year, we are $100M under the cap. Even if Kuminga costs $25-30M and we sign a max free agent, we are still okay. The year after that, the only young guy to resign is Bilal, so there's room. It's the year after that where things could be a problem if Kuminga is still on the books at a high price.
So as long as Kuminga signs a 3-year deal with the 4th year a team option, there really isn't much downside. Alternatively, he could sign some type of declining deal where the 4th year salary just isn't very much. Sending out Kispert as part of the S&T deal would also help keep our long term cap in line.