The Wizards 2018 second round draft pick

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Maybe you'd like to read this again, Nat:

We wouldn’t have done anything different at all. The only player I would’ve been upset if he slipped to five, would’ve been Blake Griffin. But he did go number one,” Grunfeld said. “Ricky Rubio, Tyreke Evans, James Harden, we like all of those players, and I think everybody else did. But if we had a choice to get Miller and Foye for any of those players, it wouldn’t have been a question whether we do it or not.

Better Miller and Foye than James Harden.

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Go to the source with the measurements on that same website. http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu He's got a 7'0.5 wingspan. Your article listed a 6'11 wingspan under strengths - that might have been a tipoff that they got something wrong,

DX says 6’11

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chimezie-Metu-72494/

Either way, that’s wing player size

Thank you RealGM for providing the ignore function - which I will now use.

Yeah... I'm about a day away from doing the same. Nat's gone altogether round the bend. But, who knows, maybe he'll take the recent offers to change his tune.

[NatP4]

What does that have to do with picking a high upside draft and stash player vs picking a low upside role player ceiling 4 year college player that plays in the NBA right away (but probably isn’t a positive contributor anyways) ?

You act like I’m going to argue Miller&Foye>Harden or argue in favor of signing scrub vets (that I complain about nonstop all throughout the season) over acquiring more draft picks and signing UDFAs...

I’m not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt, I’m just evaluating the pick/player itself. We don’t know that Robert Williams is more NBA ready than Troy Brown, we don’t know that Troy Brown would’ve been available at 20 something, especially since there were reports that teams were highly interested in him in the 15-20 range.

All I’m doing it evaluating pick 15&44, all you’re doing is attempting to get everyone to bash Ernie 24/7 with you. You started this by bashing the pick of Sanon but then you say you were fine with it. I don’t even know what we’re arguing about

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DX says 6’11

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chimezie-Metu-72494/

Either way, that’s wing player size

Thank you RealGM for providing the ignore function - which I will now use.

Yeah... I'm about a day away from doing the same. Nat's gone altogether round the bend. But, who knows, maybe he'll take the recent offers to change his tune.

Please do.

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Based on? Him playing 3 college seasons and never posting a BPM of higher than 6? Averaging more turnovers than assists all 3 years? Never averaging double digit rebounds per 40?

He’s 6’11 with a 6’11 wingspan. Doesn’t have the size to play center. Shot 30% in college from 3 on 0.4 attempts.

He has discount Markieff Morris written all over him. That’s being optimistic.

I’m not trying to hate on Metu, I just like swing for fences pick.

Well yeah, he's no Gary Clark, but those guys come once in a generation.

Btw, he's not 6'11 with a 6'11 wingspan, and comparing him to Keiff makes no sense. And why am I having this discussion with you after I just said he's far from a perfect prospect?

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/chimezie-metu


6’10 with a 6’11 wingspan maybe? Impressive.

2018 NBA Combine: ht - 6 8.5 w/o shoes, wingspan - 7 0.5
But really doesn't matter. We'll see after Summer League. As a Wizard fan I'd rather be wrong about Sanon vs Metu at this point, but don't have any faith in EGs picks.

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Ya know what center showed he was surprisingly good at following bigs out to the 3 point line in the NCAA tournament?

Spoiler:

That's right - Mo Wagner.

Ballboy talks a lot about the eye test, I remember watching Michigan in the tournament and thinking AND actually posting on here “wow, we could really use this Wagner guy on our team” and thinking that he was a surefire 1st round pick and a NBA player playing with a bunch of college players.

Doesn’t have some crazy wingspan, even though he tested at the top of all the combine drills, he’s not some explosive athlete, but I think because of his basketball IQ and effort level, he’s going to be one of those guys that is solid defensively and of course, an extremely talented offensive player

There are some things you just can’t measure, I remember watching Wagner go on the road against MSU (Jaren Jackson and Miles Bridges) and absolutely dominated them, the crowd was booing him all night, he would hit a big 3 and shush the crowd. He was literally unguardable, taking guys off the dribble and doing behind the back dribbles, showed off high level footwork, hit some one foot fadeaway dirk style shots, and just stroked it from 3 all game.

His career .633 TS at Michigan makes perfect sense, seems like everytime he touches the ball, he scores, and it looks nba caliber. We’re all focused on getting a rim protector for our team, but imagine an elite offensive player that is still solid defensively, paired with Wall Beal and Porter, specifically Wall though, we’ve never had that. A true pick and pop option that can score in the post when teams switch against us.

And... he's got swag. While his game is nothing like Draymond Green's and he's probably nowhere near the trash talker, he's a physical loud player with a presence about him. And he might get picked right where Green was picked. Yes, I think he's a player that's gotten overlooked in this draft.

I think Nat pretty much nailed it on Mo Swag before the 2018 draft. Lol, we had some disagreements in this thread, but we agreed on Wagner.

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Wow nice call.

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What does that have to do with picking a high upside draft and stash player vs picking a low upside role player ceiling 4 year college player that plays in the NBA right away (but probably isn’t a positive contributor anyways) ?

You act like I’m going to argue Miller&Foye>Harden or argue in favor of signing scrub vets (that I complain about nonstop all throughout the season) over acquiring more draft picks and signing UDFAs...

I’m not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt, I’m just evaluating the pick/player itself. We don’t know that Robert Williams is more NBA ready than Troy Brown, we don’t know that Troy Brown would’ve been available at 20 something, especially since there were reports that teams were highly interested in him in the 15-20 range.

All I’m doing it evaluating pick 15&44, all you’re doing is attempting to get everyone to bash Ernie 24/7 with you. You started this by bashing the pick of Sanon but then you say you were fine with it. I don’t even know what we’re arguing about

Miller and Foye turns out weren't as good as that dude named Steph Curry.

Now they were actually better than another alternative the Wizards might have chosen, Johnny Flynn. The p;ayer picked in 2009 right before Steph Curry.

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PS-- I was beyond pissed that the Wizards didn't KNOW that Curry was way better than Randy Foye. Foye played at least another 5-6 season. Miller had great success with the Heat and even the Cavs. But, the Wizards were NOT EVEN PRACTICAL in taking those guys as one year rentals on a middling team.