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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#101 » by No-Man » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:54 pm

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doclinkin wrote:Nic Batum is a good comparison. Yes.


What Batum lacks is something I consider to be one of Porter's most valuable assets-- his ability to pass and facilitate the offense. He'll be a lot better than Batum at getting open looks for his teammates.

Batum is a really good passer man.

Porter lacks athleticism, Batum is a beast.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#102 » by doclinkin » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:31 am

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doclinkin wrote:Nic Batum is a good comparison. Yes.


What Batum lacks is something I consider to be one of Porter's most valuable assets-- his ability to pass and facilitate the offense. He'll be a lot better than Batum at getting open looks for his teammates.


Batum passes really well. What he lacks is anything like a low-post offense, where Porter can actually hit a hook shot with either hand. Granted he'll need to add some strength, it's not like he's backing anyone down at a buck ninety or whatever he weights, but yes Porter's game is more complete, polished, less raw talent, more real skill. Batum is a smoother natural athlete, Porter has had to drill and work hard to develop all of his skills.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#103 » by 80sballboy » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:31 am

Can't wait to see OPJ in summer leagues. Should be fun to see this board scrutinize his every move. :roll:
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Post#104 » by verbal8 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:47 am

80sballboy wrote:Can't wait to see OPJ in summer leagues. Should be fun to see this board scrutinize his every move. :roll:


As interesting as the draft was summer league may be even more so. Bennett should look pretty good in the format. If mclemore doesn't look good, I would be concerned.
Oladipo and porter probably won't wow, but should be at least solid. Adams and olynyk should be interesting seeing in how they handle the step up. Glen Rice should look impressive, since the competition level is similar to dleague.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#105 » by dangermouse » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:44 am

So is it a given that Webster is going to walk? I'd much rather have Webster starting with Porter backing him up for a while. Trade Riza when the opportunity presents itself.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#106 » by Mizerooskie » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:11 am

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Rafael122 wrote:We're getting Kawhi Leonard/Tayshaun Prince. Relax fellas!

Yea well, you already have a terrific fit with Webster, and Ariza behind him

this is a homer, safe pick from EG, not surprised, but don't like it either.

Noel was the pick, pretty damn obvious, he would have been a TREMENDOUS fit with Nenê, both in O and D.

Noel may have started alongside Nene for 1 year.

He certainly wouldn't have this season, and likely not next season.

If he managed to crack the starting lineup in 2015-16, that would be Nene's last season on his contract.
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Post#107 » by Earth2Ted » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:54 am

Well, I'm still trying to talk myself into being excited about the pick... I guess if Otto progresses the way most of the other high profile Georgetown grads have done in the NBA, he'll be a tremendous player.

If you look at guys like Monroe, Hibbert, and Green- they all average similar basic stats in the pros as they did in college by their 2nd or 3rd year.

Monroe is maybe the most interesting: His stats from last year (his 3rd) with the Pistons and his last year (his 2nd) with Georgetown are the following:

16 pts, 9.6 rebounds, and 3.5 assists per game with the Pistons,
16.1 pts 9.6 rebounds , and 3.8 assists with Georgetown.

You could make the argument that Monroe is a fair comparison for Otto- both left Georgetown after 2 years, both had similar strengths and weaknesses- good basketball IQ, good but not elite all around skills, good but not elite size, and lack of ideal athleticism.

Otto's basic stats last year at Georgetown? 16 points, 7.5 rebounds, 2.7 assists. If he's doing that by year 2 or 3, we'll all be pretty happy. Unless of course Alex Len is out in Phoenix dropping 20 and 10 every night. :-?
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Post#109 » by 20MexicanosIn1Van » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:56 pm

What a great NBA body; tall, long, and lean.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#110 » by DCZards » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:33 pm

Looks like Otto is going with his college # and his mom's former #-- 22.

Earth2Ted, I agree with your comparison of Porter to Monroe. I said pretty much the same thing a few weeks back. Neither will wow you with their athleticism, but both Monroe and Porter have always displayed a cerebral, all-around game played with patience and poise.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#111 » by jblaze2004 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:43 pm

in his hightlights he does look like a below the rims type of player (yeah i know he can dunk and etc) but you really don't see he dunk much. I don't think I seen him dunk or try to dunk on anyone. Almost kevin martin type (not as good as shooter and etc though). Not saying that is a bad thing but sometimes its good to make sure it goes in and get the crowd into the game by dunking the ball. At 6'8 with a 37inch vert dunking should be pretty easy.

love his energy, hustle and basketball IQ. Just wonder about his physicality that is what seperated him from anthony bennett to me. Bennett was a beast going to the rim just was camelo anthony like on defense (disinterested lol).
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#112 » by GhostsOfGil » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:43 pm

"DraftExpress: As expected Washington takes Otto Porter. I believe they confirmed this pick to Porter a few weeks ago at least.
2013-06-27 19:52:14

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2XdG0Db2r
http://www.draftexpress.com"

He knew.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#113 » by Knighthonor » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:46 pm

But how does he fit in here?
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Post#114 » by 80sballboy » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:21 pm

I'm not a stat geek so what I see in Otto is a guy that will help you win ball games. Defense, passing, shooting, rebounding and intelligence. Some of those factors you can't quantify.

He's not an AAU guy which is a major plus so he's not looking to impress. He won't take many bad shots and he's smart enough to work on his weaknesses. He has the frame to put on 15-20 pounds. I hate comparing him to guys of the past. Not Pippen, not Jeff Green, not T. Prince. He'll make guys better. Not expecting greatness. Just another piece that will help us win.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#115 » by Sonny Carson » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:52 pm

Didnt realize Otto's agent was David Falk...
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#116 » by Knighthonor » Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:59 pm

80sballboy wrote:I'm not a stat geek so what I see in Otto is a guy that will help you win ball games. Defense, passing, shooting, rebounding and intelligence. Some of those factors you can't quantify.

He's not an AAU guy which is a major plus so he's not looking to impress. He won't take many bad shots and he's smart enough to work on his weaknesses. He has the frame to put on 15-20 pounds. I hate comparing him to guys of the past. Not Pippen, not Jeff Green, not T. Prince. He'll make guys better. Not expecting greatness. Just another piece that will help us win.

But without adding greatness, how you expect this team to go further than where Gil went with the Wizards? This current team would never win a championship and would in the end lead to another rebuild, making all this useless.

Still don't see the need to reaching for a winning season because of this. Why not just sit back and tank for talent. Current team even if healthy isn't enough. Adding somebody who isn't great wont help.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#117 » by 80sballboy » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:57 am

We've tanked for five years. Where has that gotten us? We got lucky to get a high pick in one of the worst drafts ever. I think Porter has a lot more upside than most people think but I'm not sure there were any great players in this draft. Noel at best is going to be great on one end of the floor. Is that building a championship team? Maybe not but if we starting winning games, good players will want to play with Wall and company. I always have hope and try not to be super cynical until the games start. :roll: I think people are just looking for something bad because they hate EG and want him out. I wanted Porter from the get go but wouldn't have a huge problem if we took Noel. The knee was a major concern no matter what people on this board were saying draft night.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#118 » by willbcocks » Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:30 am

The Gil team had Jamison, Gil, and CB all making big cash. Also, they were terrible at defense, with two of the worst defenders in the league at their positions.

This team has three two-way players. Beal will be on a rookie deal for 3 more years, Porter for 4. Assuming they pan out, that means we have 3 more years to use/acquire cap space and add another big piece alongside them. With the former big 3, we never had that option. Oh and did I mention that the current big 3 are all two-way players and potentially excellent on the defensive side of the floor?
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#119 » by BruceO » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:25 am

One thing is the potential that this kid could be a lot better than we think. Georgetown players can do more than their system allows, he can play in the half court and another thing is these players have relationships with each other and the Georgetown guys help and support each other. They went to support Hibbert when they were facing Miami. That's Otto, Jeff green and Monroe. He's one of them. There was a picture taken and he seemed already bigger than Jeff green who played power forward but was a tweezers where porter is a small forward and has the skills required.

We also needed because of walls turnovers someone else who can facilitate the offense incase we need to get it out of walls hands. Kawhi and LeBron also initiate their offenses.

The thing I'm most optimistic about is that for many its a no brainer. The moment we moved up remember a West coast exec said to one of our reporters enjoy Otto Porter. But the thing I am utmost optimistic about is as a sophomore who was least hyped coming in he's the highest drafted Georgetown player email iverson. Also only one since him to win player of the year if I'm not mistaken. So out of all those Georgetown guys he's Coming in with the best credentials and with the ideal situation into a team that he can fit into their long term plans without having to leave the city he played college in. There's no reason for him to fail. We will like him regardless how the others do.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#120 » by Wizardspride » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:15 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:Didnt realize Otto's agent was David Falk...

Falk represents all the Hoyas (for the most part).

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