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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1021 » by 80sballboy » Wed May 3, 2017 4:28 am

truwizfan4evr wrote:
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truwizfan4evr wrote:Beal should of driven more to the rim instead of shooting bricks. When Beal get's to the rim he is tough to stop.


http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6580/bradley-beal

He's shooting 30% from 3pt in the postseason. Sure, I wouldn't give up on the 3 but some nights you just don't have it.

He shot 5 of 7 from the line i would rather he drives to the rim vs Celtics when Bradley all over him it would open up his game even more.


We don't disagree. I was saying this the entire game that he was settling and the entire team was when the Cs were in the bonus. It also brings up a bigger issue that the team doesn't have any slashers that can get fouled. When John doesn't want to spend energy doing it and maybe he feels, that's is not worth the risk because he won't get the foul. Porter and Morris don't give you that ability. Maybe one day, Oube will figure out he has a right hand and will become an effective driver.
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Re: RE: Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1022 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed May 3, 2017 4:29 am

truwizfan4evr wrote:We need to solve the big man switch on guards.

And do so with the quickness.

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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1023 » by Mojo Amok » Wed May 3, 2017 4:29 am

80sballboy wrote:Is EG saying the STFU to Ainge or his own team?

Read on Twitter


I'm something of an expert lip reader and it looks to me like Grunfeld said "He is a very good shooter and a talented overall scorer whose versatility gives us an added dimension as we gear up for the stretch run."
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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1024 » by deneem4 » Wed May 3, 2017 4:34 am

Game 3 wall is going to go Jordan mode...
We saw it in the Hawks series...
Every game he loses he steps it up another level...
I think wall is understanding he has to do it all non stop...
He can't rely on beal as much as he did in the regular season...
We will see wall doing alot more driving...less assist and a lot more scoring...expect a monster 50+ game from wall next game...along with a win...

If there's any player in the league that feeds off the competitivemess it's wall

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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1025 » by SMTBSI » Wed May 3, 2017 4:35 am

Holy cow. I'm sorry someone has to lose this series. Hopefully the winner will be intact enough to give Cleveland a run. That's all I got. See y'all in Washington.
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Re: RE: Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1026 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed May 3, 2017 4:37 am

deneem4 wrote:Game 3 wall is going to go Jordan mode...
We saw it in the Hawks series...
Every game he loses he steps it up another level...
I think wall is understanding he has to do it all non stop...
He can't rely on beal as much as he did in the regular season...
We will see wall doing alot more driving...less assist and a lot more scoring...expect a monster 50+ game from wall next game...along with a win...

If there's any player in the league that feeds off the competitivemess it's wall

Wizards in 6

My new mantra is also WIZARDS IN SIX.



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Re: RE: Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1027 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed May 3, 2017 4:39 am

SMTBSI wrote:Holy cow. I'm sorry someone has to lose this series. Hopefully the winner will be intact enough to give Cleveland a run. That's all I got. See y'all in Washington.

It is your guilt talking.

:)

You know that the Wizards are getting hosed. :)

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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1028 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed May 3, 2017 4:42 am

Where is Shelvin Mack when you need him?

Oh, he's playing for Utah...Right now. :)

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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1029 » by NatP4 » Wed May 3, 2017 4:43 am

deneem4 wrote:Game 3 wall is going to go Jordan mode...
We saw it in the Hawks series...
Every game he loses he steps it up another level...
I think wall is understanding he has to do it all non stop...
He can't rely on beal as much as he did in the regular season...
We will see wall doing alot more driving...less assist and a lot more scoring...expect a monster 50+ game from wall next game...along with a win...

If there's any player in the league that feeds off the competitivemess it's wall

Wizards in 6


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in all seriousness though, the way wall can do more is by giving any effort at all on defense, not scoring more. Cs gameplan is to let him jack up jumpshots and he went 3-10 from 3. 20 assists and solid defense would've won them either one of these last two games. he can't fight through a screen to save his life.
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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1030 » by nuposse04 » Wed May 3, 2017 4:45 am

SMTBSI wrote:Holy cow. I'm sorry someone has to lose this series. Hopefully the winner will be intact enough to give Cleveland a run. That's all I got. See y'all in Washington.


CLE would wax either one of these teams in 4 or 5. BOS can overcome some top end talent problems cause they play hard, CLE however is talented AND plays hard. :0
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Post#1031 » by jbk1234 » Wed May 3, 2017 4:46 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
truwizfan4evr wrote:We need to solve the big man switch on guards.

And do so with the quickness.

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You guys need to re-evaluate how you're using the PNR on both ends tbh. Wall's not waiting for the pick to be set and he's not using the roll man 80% of the time. All he's doing is bringing another defender over. On the defensive end you need to be trapping/blitzing IT.
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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1032 » by SMTBSI » Wed May 3, 2017 4:48 am

nuposse04 wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:Holy cow. I'm sorry someone has to lose this series. Hopefully the winner will be intact enough to give Cleveland a run. That's all I got. See y'all in Washington.


CLE would wax either one of these teams in 4 or 5. BOS can overcome some top end talent problems cause they play hard, CLE however is talented AND plays hard. :0

Yes, I've agreed all season long, and I'm not going to change my tune now. Both of our teams have talent, but CLE is a real problem.

I'll cross my fingers that we hone each other into battle tested SOBs that can give them a run for their money, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
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Re: RE: Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1033 » by The Corey's » Wed May 3, 2017 4:48 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:Holy cow. I'm sorry someone has to lose this series. Hopefully the winner will be intact enough to give Cleveland a run. That's all I got. See y'all in Washington.

It is your guilt talking.

:)

You know that the Wizards are getting hosed. :)

It's​ all good! Boston won home cooking...Err home court during regular season. This is how it goes.

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It's interesting to see two fan bases feel exactly the opposite on the same thing.

Celtics being called for 3 fouls in 10 seconds putting them over the the limit with over 8 minutes left in the fourth quarter certainly didn't ring home cooking to me.
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Post#1034 » by deneem4 » Wed May 3, 2017 4:55 am

NatP4 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Game 3 wall is going to go Jordan mode...
We saw it in the Hawks series...
Every game he loses he steps it up another level...
I think wall is understanding he has to do it all non stop...
He can't rely on beal as much as he did in the regular season...
We will see wall doing alot more driving...less assist and a lot more scoring...expect a monster 50+ game from wall next game...along with a win...

If there's any player in the league that feeds off the competitivemess it's wall

Wizards in 6


INFINITE BEHIND THE BACK DRIBBLES AFTER POUNDING THE ROCK FOR 23 SECONDS.

in all seriousness though, the way wall can do more is by giving any effort at all on defense, not scoring more. Cs gameplan is to let him jack up jumpshots and he went 3-10 from 3. 20 assists and solid defense would've won them either one of these last two games. he can't fight through a screen to save his life.


He can't get assists if his teammates can't hit shots...he still shot 50% for the game...il rather see a confident John wall than any of his nervous team mates shooting...

The thing with teams like Boston and Houston is the whole team wants to see their star player be the man...there's no egos involved...if we construct our offensive gameplan to wall getting to the rack or getting an easy mismatch instead of trying to get good looks for guys that have been missing shots we can keep leads...

Once wall starts to get double or become a more focal point offensively than he can go into passing mode...

This team is holding wall back period...he gave effort on defense he can't switch every single screen especially when they're illegal and moving screens...

He took some I'll advised 3s in overtime but who else was going to get open to shoot them...maybe if we gameplan for him to get to the rim he wouldn't have to take those 3s...

Wall is going down a chis Paul path rn...and it may be good for his numbers but it's not good for winning...

He needs to put it all on the line miss or not foul or not...put the game in wall hands and create lanes for him instead of him having to create for others
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1035 » by WallToWall » Wed May 3, 2017 5:11 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
SMTBSI wrote:Holy cow. I'm sorry someone has to lose this series. Hopefully the winner will be intact enough to give Cleveland a run. That's all I got. See y'all in Washington.

It is your guilt talking.

:)

You know that the Wizards are getting hosed. :)

It's​ all good! Boston won home cooking...Err home court during regular season. This is how it goes.

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It's interesting to see two fan bases feel exactly the opposite on the same thing.

Celtics being called for 3 fouls in 10 seconds putting them over the the limit with over 8 minutes left in the fourth quarter certainly didn't ring home cooking to me.

Those were fouls. And the refs were, at that particular time, doing their job. The refs actually looked like they read the NBA rules.
Tell me, is holding onto an opponents hand a foul? Let me guess, you will say "it depends". But the NBA rule book says different. When the refs don't call that a foul, its called " home cookin'".

When you intentionally or unintentionally hit someone on the head, its a flagrant. So says the NBA rule book. But not the refs in Celtic land. That is called "home cookin'".

I could go on...but I think you get it.
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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1036 » by WallToWall » Wed May 3, 2017 5:17 am

nuposse04 wrote:
80sballboy wrote:Ok, maybe I'm starting to see what Brooks is talking about. Hate bitching about refs but this was a huge play.

Read on Twitter


Def a foul. Might need to call em out publicly and try to elicit a fine for anything to change however. Otherwise being like "hey man they be grabbing us" isn't going to change a damn thing.


Yup, 3 refs, 10 players, and they cant catch that. Sad as it is... Celtics are smart about how they foul and not get called.
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Post#1037 » by The Corey's » Wed May 3, 2017 5:35 am

WallToWall wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:It is your guilt talking.

:)

You know that the Wizards are getting hosed. :)

It's​ all good! Boston won home cooking...Err home court during regular season. This is how it goes.

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It's interesting to see two fan bases feel exactly the opposite on the same thing.

Celtics being called for 3 fouls in 10 seconds putting them over the the limit with over 8 minutes left in the fourth quarter certainly didn't ring home cooking to me.

Those were fouls. And the refs were, at that particular time, doing their job. The refs actually looked like they read the NBA rules.
Tell me, is holding onto an opponents hand a foul? Let me guess, you will say "it depends". But the NBA rule book says different. When the refs don't call that a foul, its called " home cookin'".

When you intentionally or unintentionally hit someone on the head, its a flagrant. So says the NBA rule book. But not the refs in Celtic land. That is called "home cookin'".

I could go on...but I think you get it.


I suppose the non technical foul on Morris for blatantly throwing Horford into the media was clean too?
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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1038 » by Dat2U » Wed May 3, 2017 5:39 am

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nuposse04 wrote:
I dislike Brooks as much as the next guy, but Wall was done tired, mostly cause his backups are trash. Part of that trash is the fact Brooks lacks an ounce of trust or creativity with young guys. Stevens doesn't, he got good minutes from youth and they rewarded him. Brooks is however, playing the cards EG and company gave em. Its also EG's fault for hiring an overrated coach and thinking he would mask his own overall retardedness. These losses are part of a systemic problem.


Brooks gives plenty of chances to young guys (or bench players) who have an ounce of talent. He can groom them well. His track record is proof.
What is wrong here is that the folks behind Wall and most all other positions are HUGE drop offs in talent. They tend to be worse than the bench of the opponent. You just cant manage/coach your way out of the problem of having no bench.



He's been terrible with the rotation all year.

He went with a Jennings-Wall-Oubre-Smith-Gortat lineup with our first subs tonight. How do you defend that stupidity?

He literally would leave a lineup in after a timeout, Stevens would go small and torch us and Brooks would have to sub a player in to go back small. He's a step behind every game.

Satoransky and Mcclelan are both better than Jennings and Bogdonavic . If you wanna blame Ernie because he acquired those guys, that's fine with me, but Brooks is a major problem as well


This f*cking laughable. Sato has done nothing as a PG to show he's capable of running an offense. When he had his shot earlier this season the offense came to a complete standstill b/c no one respected him running the P&R and he was too passive. Yet you say the same damn **** 82 games and the entire playoffs. It got old in December but you won't let it die. If Sato plays, it's probably as a 2 or 3. Problem is you can't have too many guys out there that aren't threats to shoot. Not only do you want Sato out there, you want McClellan, an undrafted rookie and another guy with a suspect jumper. You obviously don't understand the idea of spacing offensively.

But go ahead. Call me an idiot, ignore my points and on Thursday continue to bitch about Sato & McClellan not playing and how lousy a coach Brooks is for screwing up a rotation that features 2-3 good players on a nightly basis.
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Post#1039 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed May 3, 2017 5:48 am

80sballboy wrote:Is EG saying the STFU to Ainge or his own team?

Read on Twitter

EG needs to talk about officiating.

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Re: Game 2 EC SemiFinals: Wizards @ Celtics 8 PM (TNT/1500 AM) [5/2/17] 

Post#1040 » by Dat2U » Wed May 3, 2017 5:52 am

If Wall had any help from Beal this game we would've won. This loss hurts because it should have been a win. Wall was dead tired at the end too. I don't know how we combat that. With Wall it's like holding down the turbo button all game with him, if he really goes out early on, he usually is gassed by the end. However I don't know if we could have been in the game had he try to pace himself. He really needs to work on his stamina in the off-season. Maybe less alcohol at the strip clubs and less sugar in his diet will help. Maybe this postseason will motivate him to actually come in the best shape of his life next year so he doesn't get worn down.

Going back to the series though. At this point, Boston is the huge favorite. Odds are it goes six or seven with Boston winning. Beating Boston 4 out of the next 5 is going to be really tough... mainly because our lack of depth. Porter is playing better but were relying heavily on a banged up Morris who can't commit to playing D all out or stay out of foul trouble. Were also relying on Gortat who seems scared to challenge dribble penetration or attack the defensive boards these day. Finally, Oubre has hit some 3s but he's getting lost on D a lot. It's like the mental part of the game is a real challenge for him right now. He's arguably hurt us more than he's helped us on defense in the playoffs. Sadlly none of our guys outside of Wall is playing at a very high level. Beal has been disappointing which is probably the most surprising thing.

I also gotta say, I'm totally disgusted with Ian Mahinmi. He's a totally b*tchmade in my eyes. He's taking his sweet time coming back from a calf injury despite the fact his team desperately needs him. I see someone satisfied and content with their contract and not willing to over extended himself b/c he feels he doesn't have to. Meanwhile I give Morris props --- even though he pisses me off 80% of the time --- for gutting it out on a severely sprained ankle

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