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Post#121 » by Illmatic12 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:33 am

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TGW wrote:I want to change my vote to 43 wins.

I have a bad feeling Wall goes down for ~20 games, and we're forced to start Miller for that time. I like Dre, but he's not the answer at backup point guard, and I think the team is going to suffer greatly if he has to start at any point during the season.


Yeah, I think last year we kind of lucked out - Wall played 82 games, Beal "only" missed 9 and Nene "only" missed 29. If Wall had missed 8-10 games we probably don't win 40.

We definitely did not "luck out" by Nene spraining his MCL and missing 29 games. He only missed 19 games the year before. Yes we expect him to get banged up and take games off from time to time, but you can't just pencil him in for a major injury and 30+ missed games every season :lol:

And this time around, we won't have to start Trevor Booker at PF. The team is much more prepared to withstand a Nene injury now.


Of course if Wall misses significant time we're screwed, but he is actually on somewhat of an ironman streak. John has played 142 consecutive games (including postseason).
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#122 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:57 am

39, 61, 53 - so yes, I assume he is going to miss 30+ games per season - Nene.

66, 69, 49 - before Walls 82 game streak. Hope he stays on a roll.

But it is a worry when you are predicting wins. And yes, if Wall had missed 10+ games - the reasoning stands.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#123 » by TheBabyMaker » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:15 am

55 - 27. I think we will smack around a couple more West teams this year (we had no business losing to Denver twice, Dallas and should have won the game at Houston and gave the game away (home) against the Spurs) Pretty much beat up OKC till the meltdown at OKC (Walls missed layup(and NeNe ejection)) etc. Along with a 7-8 game better home record. We layed eggs against Philly, Cavs and Milwaukee too.

Oh the Meltdown at Sac too.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#124 » by nate33 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:31 pm

dckingsfan wrote:66, 69, 49 - before Walls 82 game streak. Hope he stays on a roll.

Actually, it's 69, 66, 49, 82 - with that 66-game season being in a strike-shortened, 66-game schedule. So basically, John Wall has played every possible game over the past 3 seasons except for the first 32 games of the 2012/13 season.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#125 » by nuposse04 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:47 pm

Coupled with the fact I'm pretty sure Wiz management wants less minutes on Wall and Beal, I don't think we'll be running them into the ground, especially with a competent PG in miller. I think Wall and Beal will miss no more then 7 games each this season, which is ok. Nene will miss his usual 1/3rd. Gortat maybe 5-7. Fear of lingering injuries isn't justified IMO, freak injuries, sure but anyone can get those. It isn't like Wall and Beal drive enough to put themselves in harms way anyway lol.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#126 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:14 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:66, 69, 49 - before Walls 82 game streak. Hope he stays on a roll.

Actually, it's 69, 66, 49, 82 - with that 66-game season being in a strike-shortened, 66-game schedule. So basically, John Wall has played every possible game over the past 3 seasons except for the first 32 games of the 2012/13 season.


Thanks for the correction...
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Post#127 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:17 pm

nuposse04 wrote:Coupled with the fact I'm pretty sure Wiz management wants less minutes on Wall and Beal, I don't think we'll be running them into the ground, especially with a competent PG in miller. I think Wall and Beal will miss no more then 7 games each this season, which is ok. Nene will miss his usual 1/3rd. Gortat maybe 5-7. Fear of lingering injuries isn't justified IMO, freak injuries, sure but anyone can get those. It isn't like Wall and Beal drive enough to put themselves in harms way anyway lol.


You just don't know - given recent history (nate's point included), I think you have to build in time for injuries, especially to Beal, PP, Porter, Nene (Webster will already miss a bunch of games) (Wall removed per nate's point).

It just makes it interesting on the prediction front...
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#128 » by sfam » Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:49 pm

With my 51 wins, I'm going with 3rd in the East and getting to the second round again, but I don't see us getting to the conference finals.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#129 » by stevemcqueen1 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:53 pm

We were lucky that everyone didn't get injured for the entire season last season.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#130 » by BarnabyJones » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:22 pm

Put me down for 49 wins......3rd seed.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#131 » by Illmatic12 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:13 pm

dckingsfan wrote:39, 61, 53 - so yes, I assume he is going to miss 30+ games per season - Nene.

66, 69, 49 - before Walls 82 game streak. Hope he stays on a roll.

But it is a worry when you are predicting wins. And yes, if Wall had missed 10+ games - the reasoning stands.

2011 was the lockout season.. the year Nene played 39 games was out of 66. So he missed 17 total.

It's more likely that he misses 20 games or less, than 30+
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Post#132 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:39 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:39, 61, 53 - so yes, I assume he is going to miss 30+ games per season - Nene.

66, 69, 49 - before Walls 82 game streak. Hope he stays on a roll.

But it is a worry when you are predicting wins. And yes, if Wall had missed 10+ games - the reasoning stands.

2011 was the lockout season.. the year Nene played 39 games was out of 66. So he missed 17 total.

It's more likely that he misses 20 games or less, than 30+


Yep, good point. Nate caught that too...
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#133 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:42 pm

Note: If you share a win record, tie is determined by ECS

Wins

57 - deneem4
56 - jeffsays
55 - leswizards, TheBabyMaker
54 - Wizardspride, stevemcqueen1
53 - dangermouse, Hidden Eye
52 - CntOutSmrtCrazy, AFM, hands11, MOrgil, barelyawake
51 - FreeBalling, sfam, diaboliQ_Mo, Higga
50 - nuposse04, 2Mas, TheKingOfVa360, CobraCommander, DCZards, WallToWall, jivelikenice
49 - thricethefun, gesa2, BarnabyJones
48 - miller31time, KevinFCheng, jmrosenth, keynote, long suffrin' boulez fan, McFilthy, Illmatic12, Kanyewest
47 - DCKingsFan, The Fax, Jay81, Nigel Tufnel, Severn Hoos, The Fax
46 - nate33, penbeast0, montestewart, DaRealHibachi
45 - Ruzious, Nivek, J-Ves
44 - MJG, verbal8
43 - Dat2U, queridiculo, TGW
42 - FAH1223, Chocolate City Jordanaire
40 - BigA

ECS

2nd - leswizards, deneem4, stevemcqueen1
3rd - miller31time, CntOutSmrtCrazy, 2Mas, FreeBalling, hands11, McFilthy, sfam, BarnabyJones
4th - gesa2, DCZards, Illmatic12, J-Ves, montestewart, The Fax
5th - DCKingsFan, verbal8
6th - Nivek, long suffrin' boulez fan
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#134 » by mohammed10 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:26 pm

Late to the party, but read the entire thread.

Seems like predicting 50 wins for a team that hasn't won 50 games since many on this board were born (1978-79) seems a bit of a stretch to me - Bobby Dandridge ain't walking' through that door (neither is Greg Ballard)!

Still a ways to go before the season starts (where does Love land? G Monroe?), but put me down for 46 wins. As others have mentioned, we were very fortunate with the injury bug last year. Two years in a row of major injury-free hoops would be a shock, but I don't think we can survive any significant injury to our current Big-3 of Wall, Beal or Gortat.

I think the East will be stronger this year (and not just because of Cleveland). We are sleeping on Charlotte and Atlanta too.

I see us being a #4 seed (Indy, Cleveland and Toronto/Chicago ahead of us) and ousted in 2nd round by either Toronto or Cleveland (GASP!)
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Post#135 » by Illmatic12 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:32 pm

mohammed10 wrote:Late to the party, but read the entire thread.

Seems like predicting 50 wins for a team that hasn't won 50 games since many on this board were born (1978-79) seems a bit of a stretch to me - Bobby Dandridge ain't walking' through that door (neither is Greg Ballard)!

Still a ways to go before the season starts (where does Love land? G Monroe?), but put me down for 46 wins. As others have mentioned, we were very fortunate with the injury bug last year. Two years in a row of major injury-free hoops would be a shock, but I don't think we can survive any significant injury to our current Big-3 of Wall, Beal or Gortat.

I think the East will be stronger this year (and not just because of Cleveland). We are sleeping on Charlotte and Atlanta too.

I see us being ousted in 2nd round by either Toronto or Cleveland (GASP!)

Washington wasn't injury free last year. Nene sprained his MCL. Beal had a stress fracture in his leg.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#136 » by mohammed10 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:36 pm

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mohammed10 wrote:Late to the party, but read the entire thread.

Seems like predicting 50 wins for a team that hasn't won 50 games since many on this board were born (1978-79) seems a bit of a stretch to me - Bobby Dandridge ain't walking' through that door (neither is Greg Ballard)!

Still a ways to go before the season starts (where does Love land? G Monroe?), but put me down for 46 wins. As others have mentioned, we were very fortunate with the injury bug last year. Two years in a row of major injury-free hoops would be a shock, but I don't think we can survive any significant injury to our current Big-3 of Wall, Beal or Gortat.

I think the East will be stronger this year (and not just because of Cleveland). We are sleeping on Charlotte and Atlanta too.

I see us being ousted in 2nd round by either Toronto or Cleveland (GASP!)

Washington wasn't injury free last year. Nene sprained his MCL. Beal had a stress fracture in his leg.


Ill - agree. What I meant was 'major long-term injury free' from our Big 3. Beal missed 9 games whereas Nene missed 29.
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Post#137 » by mohammed10 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:41 pm

Another thought...

We might be a team more suited for the post season.
There are teams like Chicago, who aren’t really made for the playoffs, but are pretty stellar during the regular season. Then you add in Cleveland (who can go anywhere from #1-4 seed) & Indy and it’s reasonable to place us in the 3-5 range in the East
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Post#138 » by Illmatic12 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:48 pm

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Illmatic12 wrote:
mohammed10 wrote:Late to the party, but read the entire thread.

Seems like predicting 50 wins for a team that hasn't won 50 games since many on this board were born (1978-79) seems a bit of a stretch to me - Bobby Dandridge ain't walking' through that door (neither is Greg Ballard)!

Still a ways to go before the season starts (where does Love land? G Monroe?), but put me down for 46 wins. As others have mentioned, we were very fortunate with the injury bug last year. Two years in a row of major injury-free hoops would be a shock, but I don't think we can survive any significant injury to our current Big-3 of Wall, Beal or Gortat.

I think the East will be stronger this year (and not just because of Cleveland). We are sleeping on Charlotte and Atlanta too.

I see us being ousted in 2nd round by either Toronto or Cleveland (GASP!)

Washington wasn't injury free last year. Nene sprained his MCL. Beal had a stress fracture in his leg.


Ill - agree. What I meant was 'major long-term injury free' from our Big 3. Beal missed 9 games whereas Nene missed 29.

I just don't think you can say we were "fortunate" with the injury bug, when our best defensive player and key offensive weapon sprained his MCL and missed 1/3 of the season. That was a significant injury. Beal only missed 9 games, but he was on a minutes restriction for much longer than that as a result of the stress fracture. Furthermore, both Porter and Rice got injured which prevented them from having a chance to work into the rotation as additional depth.


An example of a team fortunate with the injury bug would be Toronto -- all of their key players (Derozan, Lowry, Valanciunas, Ross, Johnson) played 77+ games.

I don't understand the point of trying to portray that we were fortunate with injuries last year- we weren't. There's definitely room for us to be healthier next season, if Nene doesn't suffer anything major, we get a full season from Porter and Rice, Wittman doesn't run Beal into the ground.
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Post#139 » by mohammed10 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:05 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:I just don't think you can say we were "fortunate" with the injury bug, when our best defensive player and key offensive weapon sprained his MCL and missed 1/3 of the season. That was a significant injury. Beal only missed 9 games, but he was on a minutes restriction for much longer than that as a result of the stress fracture. Furthermore, both Porter and Rice got injured which prevented them from having a chance to work into the rotation as additional depth.


An example of a team fortunate with the injury bug would be Toronto -- all of their key players (Derozan, Lowry, Valanciunas, Ross, Johnson) played 77+ games.

I don't understand the point of trying to portray that we were fortunate with injuries last year- we weren't. There's definitely room for us to be healthier next season, if Nene doesn't suffer anything major, we get a full season from Porter and Rice, Wittman doesn't run Beal into the ground.


Ill - I think we have to agree to disagree. By the way, your example Toronto was the least injured (i.e. - healthiest) team in the league last year...

http://instreetclothes.com/2014/07/17/2 ... ry-review/

Washington finished 14th with 152 games lost (a majority of which was Otto and to a lesser extent, Nene) in a year when there were a LOT of lost games across the league.
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Re: Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season 

Post#140 » by mohammed10 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:14 pm

After reviewing some of the off-season moves, I would like to revise our conference seeding...

Eastern Conference predictions...
1. Bulls
2. Cavs
3. Wizards
4. Raptors
5. Hornets
6. Heat
7. Pacers
8. Knicks

1st round:
Bulls def. Knicks
Cavs def. Pacers
Wizards def. Heat (yes...without LBJ, they will have a hard time to not depending on one guy to save the day)
Raptors def. Hornets

2nd Round
Bulls def. Raptors
Cavs def. Wizards (yes, maybe in 6-7 games but they will take us down)

East Finals
Bulls vs Cavs...well...dang

So essentially, while the Wizards have "improved", so have the rest of the teams at the top of the conference…

Detroit is still a year or two away from contending for a low playoff seed (they really, really need to move Josh Smith, and I think SVG will eventually be able to do that).

New York should implode again...because it's New York! Despite the slight "upgrade" offensively, trading out Chandler for Jason Smith is a big DOWNGRADE overall. This team will not be able to defend.

Brooklyn will once again get hit with injuries; they just have too many old guys. Losing Pierce and Livingston was huge, and will hurt them more than anything else. KG is done….. toast.

The rest (76’ers, Bucks, Celtics, Magic) are all still several years away…but watch those 76’ers in two years….Their front court next year could be nasty: Noel-Embied-Young
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
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