You've seen enough: To Beal or not to Beal? (Poll)

[Ruzious]

You should change the poll question to Beal Max Offer, yes or no. Our offer to him is going to be a Max offer according to the Post.

Do the Wiz not understand that he's a Restricted FA and they can match whatever offer he gets? Why not just let the process play out - since there's at least a chance that they could save many millions?

The only "logical" reasoning I can think of is that they made an agreement with his agent that as long as they're willing to wait till late in the free agency period - so the Wiz can use the qualifying cap hold - to sign other free agents, the Wiz guarantee they'll give him a max deal. With a wink wink here and a nod nod there, here a wink, there a wink, everywhere...

I'm sure they knew that he was going to get the max from other teams out there.

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/bradley-beal-stands-out-among-free-agent-field-en-route-max-salary

That's written by J. Michael - who has zero credibility with ALMOST every poster here. If anything, that makes me think Beal wasn't going to get a max offer by anyone.

[AFM]

J "Bob Woodward" Michael

Honestly might be one of the GOAT journalists of our era.

[Ruzious]

J "Bob Woodward" Michael

Honestly might be one of the GOAT journalists of our era.

Well, right behind Peter Vecsey.

[80sballboy]

Do the Wiz not understand that he's a Restricted FA and they can match whatever offer he gets? Why not just let the process play out - since there's at least a chance that they could save many millions?

The only "logical" reasoning I can think of is that they made an agreement with his agent that as long as they're willing to wait till late in the free agency period - so the Wiz can use the qualifying cap hold - to sign other free agents, the Wiz guarantee they'll give him a max deal. With a wink wink here and a nod nod there, here a wink, there a wink, everywhere...

I'm sure they knew that he was going to get the max from other teams out there.

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/bradley-beal-stands-out-among-free-agent-field-en-route-max-salary

That's written by J. Michael - who has zero credibility with ALMOST every poster here. If anything, that makes me think Beal wasn't going to get a max offer by anyone.

Sure, he won't get a max deal. A 22-year old shooting guard with durability issues who averaged over 20ppg in the playoffs who hasn't reached his full potential with limited options out there at his position. What is he saying that doesn't make sense?

[tontoz]

Was he the guy who said Seraphin was worth $8 million/yr?

[Ruzious]

Was he the guy who said Seraphin was worth $8 million/yr?

I believe he said Seraphin would get at least 10 million on at least 2 occasions. Kevin or others can correct me. And - as in this case with Beal - he said it as if it was an obvious fact.

[WallToWall]

He may want a max contract, but no team in their right mind would offer it.

Be that as it may, he's going to get it.

And that would be the Wizards!

Oh gawd! I so hoped you were saying it in jest, but after reading the latest article stating that the Wizards will offer the max....wow...just wow... the Wizards are proving to be the Wizards. Here we go....

[sashae]

Offering a max deal before anyone else has a chance... That's So Wizards.

[CobraCommander]

To quote Bradley Beal... I'd rather be a legend at the Bank than a legend on the court.

[pineappleheadindc]

Offering a max deal before anyone else has a chance... That's So Wizards.

Let's throw in a future first rounder to Milwaukee to sign Beal to the max. Just because Grunfeld.

[keynote]

Offering a max deal before anyone else has a chance... That's So Wizards.

Maybe -- just maybe -- the Wizards leaked this to discourage other teams from making offers. Then, some time in late July, after the Wizards have exhausted the rest of our cap room (along with the rest of the league), EG will renege and play hardball with Beal's agent.

Eh, who am I kidding.

[stevemcqueen1]

Two issues with the Jorge Castillo claims:

1 - If the Wizards are going to use Beal's lower cap hold number to save money for outside FAs, then no, they are not going to offer Beal a max deal at the opening of free agency.

2 - How can the Wizards offer Beal a five year contract under CBA rules? They used their 5 year rookie extension on Wall.

[stevemcqueen1]

I think Castillo has either misunderstood the situation, or he's been played by a leaker.

[No-Man]

This is fairly simple, the only way to keep your capspace and Beal is to offer him right away the 5-y max and agree with him to sign after you have used the capspace in other guys to re-sign him over the cap.
If you dont offer him the 5-y max you risk that he could sign an offer-sheet from another team and ruin your capspace and you will have to match a max contract anyway, with less % of salary rise and a year less, but still.
Beal is going to be offered the max by a few teams, and WAS simply cant lose him, hands are tied in this one.

[mictic]

Beal is not signing an extension, so the extension rules don't apply. He could be offered a max qualifying offer over 5 years that no other team could compete against. But as soon as he signs an offer sheet or a qualifying offer that amount counts against the cap until he signs with another team. So hurrying doesn't give the wizards any advantage at all.

[JWizmentality]

A max deal for a player that really only does one thing well and is made of glass. Awesome.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Thankfully, the J.Michael piece won't load on my phone. Ruz is right that Michael was the one who said Seraphin would get $10 million per.

He might be right about Beal getting the max though -- in fact, I think Beal will get it. But that's not because of his exceptional play; Beal hasn't been exceptional (even in the playoffs). Rather, there's $600 million in new salary money entering the NBA market, at least half of which is in the form of cap space. Teams have to pay someone, and a 22-23 year old with a nice jumper, a good reputation and the appeal of untapped potential is a likely candidate. Even with the injuries.

Someone has articulated the commonly held view that the Wizards can't afford to lose Beal. Ergo, he gets max from the team. I disagree. Average players aren't very difficult to replace, and Beal has been average for four years now. Maybe he gets better, but it's an open question as to when and how much.

That said, the "can't afford to lose him" notion is correct in a sense, that sense being the way the front office and owner have set about marketing the team. They've identified him as part of the core they like, and as such have made it difficult for themselves to pivot to a "he's not worth THAT much so we signed this other guy instead." So, they CAN'T afford to lose him, but it's for marketing reasons -- not on-court reasons.

[Tricky_Kid]

A max deal for a player that really only does one thing well and is made of glass. Awesome.

But, but ... he is only 22 years old, talented, and his injury is nothing important Steph Curry was injuried too right? Lol damn EG will max this 2.0 version of Eric Gordon called Bradley Beal

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[verbal8]

Offering a max deal before anyone else has a chance... That's So Wizards.

Maybe -- just maybe -- the Wizards leaked this to discourage other teams from making offers. Then, some time in late July, after the Wizards have exhausted the rest of our cap room (along with the rest of the league), EG will renege and play hardball with Beal's agent.

Eh, who am I kidding.

That would be a slick move for a GM trying to build up a S&T market for a player. While us keyboard GMs would love the maneuver you describe, I think it would make the specific agent and agents in general angry at the team. However as you mention we are dealing with EG as the GM.

EG as GM is like having an investment adviser for a 30 year old putting retirement assets in a CD.

[Slimreaper703]

A max deal for a player that really only does one thing well and is made of glass. Awesome.

But, but ... he is only 22 years old, talented, and his injury is nothing important Steph Curry was injuried too right? Lol damn EG will max this 2.0 version of Eric Gordon called Bradley Beal

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I don't think people understand how young Beal is and how early he is in his career.
To put it in perspective Kriss Dunn and Buddy Heild two of the top guards in this years draft are the same
age as him.

Injuries aside teams will pay max for him.