2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

[stevemcqueen1]

Backup center is already covered assuming Horford steals 15 minutes a game there. I'd actually be looking at backup PF's like Quincy Acy.

In an ideal world where money wasn't an issue, I would rather Horford get almost all of his minutes at PF and have a fourth big who is a true C come off the bench for the remaining C minutes.

A serious Gortat injury has been a big landmine for us the past few years that we have been lucky to avoid. Whether or not we sign Horford, I think we need to get a real and credible dedicated back up C. Even if we manage to get Horford, we aren't going to want to have to play him at C for all of his minutes if Gortat went down.

But I'm afraid that we're not going to have the money to get a good back up C if we sign Horford.

Dare I say it, resign Nene for a year?

I think Nene was a contentious and negative presence in the locker room last season. I don't think I would bring him back at any price. He just isn't on the same page as the rest of our roster. He is just collecting a paycheck at this point, and spends most of his time complaining. The atmosphere in our locker room needs to be youthful and hungry.

[AFM]

Word, well Wikipedia lists her residence as Boston. Either way, could sway his decision.

[Ruzious]

I'd actually love to have Nene back for a year - if he'd agree to a minimum contract. Play 10 minutes a game, and give some hard fouls if someone on the opposition is getting a little too frisky.

[Induveca]

Horford's wife lives in Boston. Just throwing that out there.

Third largest Dominican population in USA behind NYC and Miami.

[JWizmentality]

Word, well Wikipedia lists her residence as Boston. Either way, could sway his decision.

There changed it for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Vega

[DCZards]

However you want to misconstrue it is your call, but the reality as much as it may inconvenience you, is that Porter was a better player and was one of the few positively impactful players we had at the age of 22. He is also one of the few young guys we have had that has made CLEAR and evident improvements from year to year... And we are suppose to bench him for analogous production? Sorry but that is from Grunfeld house of insanity, which we ought to distance ourselves from.

Hey, don't blame the "bring Ariza back" idea on Grunfield. EG was the one who didn't resign Ariza (as some here wanted), essentially turning the SF job over to Porter.

[Induveca]

Word, well Wikipedia lists her residence as Boston. Either way, could sway his decision.

There changed it for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Vega

His wife went to Boston University. They met in Boston and still own a home there.

I'm rooting for the Wizards but they're already both royalty in Boston with the large Dominican population. His wife is the only Dominican Miss Universe ever, Horford and his father are all sports heroes. I assure you the lure of Dominican food and familiarity will be hard to beat.

Closest I came in DC was Cuban food, and they used black beans *bleh*. My three choices when I left DC over a decade ago? Miami, NYC and Boston. All because of easy access to Dominican culture and family. Of course that goes both ways, suddenly money grubbing family and friends suddenly appear in droves.

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FWIW, Detroit was the "mystery" team chasing Horford.

[FAH1223]

Word, well Wikipedia lists her residence as Boston. Either way, could sway his decision.

There changed it for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Vega

His wife went to Boston University. They met in Boston and still own a home there.

I'm rooting for the Wizards but they're already both royalty in Boston with the large Dominican population. His wife is the only Dominican Miss Universe ever, Horford and his father are all sports heroes. I assure you the lure of Dominican food and familiarity will be hard to beat.

Closest I came in DC was Cuban food, and they used black beans *bleh*. My three choices when I left DC over a decade ago? Miami, NYC and Boston. All because of easy access to Dominican culture and family. Of course that goes both ways, suddenly money grubbing family and friends suddenly appear in droves.

Its over then.

Boston he goes.

[stevemcqueen1]

Probably got about 6 wins from the PF position last season. About 4.5 from Dudley and just under 2 from the combo of Humphries and Morris. Figure a full season of Morris would give us about 5 and a season from Horford would give us 9, so that's a net gain of 7 or 8 wins from signing him.

[closg00]

Horford's wife lives in Boston. Just throwing that out there.

Not quite, she is from Boston but they live in Atlanta

http://www.ameliavega.net/

Magazine article on the webpage talks about their home in Atlanta. You honestly think Horford stayed in Atlanta for the last few years leaving that piece by her lonesome in freakin Boston.

Wow, she is 6"1 and of-course gorgeous.

Horford is probably going to Boston, but the final contract figures haven't been worked-out yet because Boston hasn't pitched KD yet, once Boston is out of the running for KD, Horford will announce the Boston signing tonight.

[Ruzious]

There changed it for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Vega

His wife went to Boston University. They met in Boston and still own a home there.

I'm rooting for the Wizards but they're already both royalty in Boston with the large Dominican population. His wife is the only Dominican Miss Universe ever, Horford and his father are all sports heroes. I assure you the lure of Dominican food and familiarity will be hard to beat.

Closest I came in DC was Cuban food, and they used black beans *bleh*. My three choices when I left DC over a decade ago? Miami, NYC and Boston. All because of easy access to Dominican culture and family. Of course that goes both ways, suddenly money grubbing family and friends suddenly appear in droves.

Its over then.

Boston he goes.

My best friend used to go to the DR every month or two... before finally marrying a beautiful woman half his age there. Sometimes, distance makes the heart grow fonder.

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Word, well Wikipedia lists her residence as Boston. Either way, could sway his decision.

There changed it for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Vega

His wife went to Boston University. They met in Boston and still own a home there.

I'm rooting for the Wizards but they're already both royalty in Boston with the large Dominican population. His wife is the only Dominican Miss Universe ever, Horford and his father are all sports heroes. I assure you the lure of Dominican food and familiarity will be hard to beat.

Closest I came in DC was Cuban food, and they used black beans *bleh*. My three choices when I left DC over a decade ago? Miami, NYC and Boston. All because of easy access to Dominican culture and family. Of course that goes both ways, suddenly money grubbing family and friends suddenly appear in droves.

The Horfords are wealthy socialites; they're not pining to find a Dominican market/bodega, or a Dominican hair salon to do a quick wash-and-set. Proximity to Dominican community might play a role, but they're gonna be aiight wherever they go. No matter which team they choose, they're more likely to live in a large house in a wealthy suburb than in a Dominican neighborhood in the city. And, while the Dominican population in the DMV isn't as large as it is Boston, it's slightly larger than it is in Atlanta (acc. to Wikipedia).

Eh, I don't know what I'm talking about; I just feel the need to counter the argument 'cause I want Horford to pick us.

[Induveca]

Horford's wife lives in Boston. Just throwing that out there.

Not quite, she is from Boston but they live in Atlanta

http://www.ameliavega.net/

Magazine article on the webpage talks about their home in Atlanta. You honestly think Horford stayed in Atlanta for the last few years leaving that piece by her lonesome in freakin Boston.

Wow, she is 6"1 and of-course gorgeous.

There is a mystery team in the hunt, I suspect it is a contending team that needs him to take less money. Alternately, he is definitely going to Boston, but the final contract figures haven't been worked-out yet because Boston hasn't pitched KD yet, once Boston is out of the running for KD, Horford will announce the Boston signing tonight.

Detroit being a mystery team is interesting, as Horford went to high school in Michigan (where his little brother currently attends, and his mother lives).

[LyricalRico]

Pistons just gave Luer over $40M, so I'm guessing they know Horford isn't signing with them. Hawks also supposedly just added a 5th year to their offer, but they are still below the max. Looks like it will still come down to DC vs BOS.

[verbal8]

Between his wife living in Boston, the fact that they made the playoffs last year and we didn't, and our general reputation as the clown show of the NBA, I'd say our chance at signing Horford is under 10%.

I would put the odds in the 40% range. I think Boston has similar odds. I think there is an outside chace the Durant Free Agency impacts Horford's Free Agancy and he goes to a Western Conference team.

[payitforward]

Resolve wasn't so impressive when they panicked and traded the #13 pick, who would be paid peanuts for the next 4 years, for a mediocre head case.

Actually, the trade looks even better given the reality of free agency. The Zards are going to need all the experienced bodies they can get. Mediocre or not, at least for the short-term Morris is almost certain to contribute more than a raw, inexperienced rookie.

Do you think that Wall, Gortat, etc. would rather have that 6th player currently under contract (at a very reasonable price, btw) be Morris or a rookie not named Simmons or Ingram?

Yup, that's why it was so smart of us to trade a mere draft pick yielding a raw, inexperienced rookie for two solid NBA players in the 2009 draft.

[Ruzious]

Pistons just gave Luer over $40M, so I'm guessing they know Horford isn't signing with them. Hawks also supposedly just added a 5th year to their offer, but they are still below the max. Looks like it will still come down to DC vs BOS.

Yeah, Detroit's gotta be out, but I think Atlanta makes it a 3 way race.

All 3 teams have a 50/50 chance. - Yogi B.

[closg00]

At this point, we have to hold on to our seats and be fearful for what kind of money Ernie is going to thrown at Anderson, he is the last "get" that Ernie can make so you know the offer will be crazy.

[Ruzious]

Resolve wasn't so impressive when they panicked and traded the #13 pick, who would be paid peanuts for the next 4 years, for a mediocre head case.

Actually, the trade looks even better given the reality of free agency. The Zards are going to need all the experienced bodies they can get. Mediocre or not, at least for the short-term Morris is almost certain to contribute more than a raw, inexperienced rookie.

Do you think that Wall, Gortat, etc. would rather have that 6th player currently under contract (at a very reasonable price, btw) be Morris or a rookie not named Simmons or Ingram?

Yup, that's why it was so smart of us to trade a mere draft pick yielding a raw, inexperienced rookie for two solid NBA players in the 2009 draft.

I would take Ellenson and 4 or 5 million of cap savings over Morris, thank you very much.