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Re: Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2) 

Post#1361 » by FAH1223 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:36 pm

montestewart wrote:Ernie is gradually transforming the team into the Warriors of the East. They hit .375 from outside the arc, 3rd in the league behind the Warriors and Celtics. They are 4th in the league in assists, behind the Warriors, Sixers, and Pels. Indicative of the chaos they cause opponent offenses, they are near the top in opponent TOs, tied with defensive juggernaut Utah, and well ahead of the Warriors. On both offense and defense, Ernie is gradually transforming the team into the Warriors of the East.

Let's look at the individual players. Umm, two All Stars: a guaranteed 20/10 PG and a guaranteed 25 ppg shooting guard. Let's start listing all the NBA championships that started right there. Can you say Warriors? Add to that a top-3 three-point shooter (just ahead of Klay Thompson) who also happens to be a six position defender and the ultimate airplane glue guy. Add to that the ultimate enforcer, known around the league as Markiell because opponents are so afraid of him. Add to that the greatest player in Polish history, and anyone that knows WWII history can tell you how tough Poles are. Plus he models himself after the Mohawks, and anyone who's read Last of the Mo' Hawkins knows how tough they are. Plus his father was an Olympic boxer, and you know how tough boxers are. Plus, he has a picture of his father as a boxer tattooed on his chest, and you know how much tattoos hurt, so you know he's tough. Like the Warriors, the Wizards starting five goes five deep.

As with the Warriors, it doesn't end here with the starters though. Did I mention tough? Ian Mahinmi was born in Rouen, where Joan of Arc was tortured, so you know he's tough. How about Kelly Oubre (know as KO around the league, no one knows why), making his case for 6th Man of the Year. And Czech out the Prague-ress of Tomas Satoransky, making his case as the greatest player in the history of the Czech Republic. Mike Scott is known as the Rain Man around the league, because if he doesn't get to watch People's Court, he'll throw a fit on your front porch. The below the radar acquisition of Chris McCullough (the equivalent of a free 1st round pick) in the Nicholson trade continued to show returns, giving valuable depth up front as he added 18 pts, 10 RBs and 2 BS per 36. And don't forget Jason Smith; some players throw in the towel, but he hangs onto it as if his life depends on it.

Let's not forget that EG not only has a grand vision and is the architect of this coming dynasty, but is a shrewd survivor as well, able to think on the fly. When John Wall goes down or needs a solid backup, EG goes into to action, and the Wizards went into the playoffs with not one but two NBA starting quality PGs, Ty Lawson and Ramon Sessions, backing him up. He picked up Lawson fresh off the Saki Maru five minutes before game 1. As with the Warriors, top players want to come here and play for a song (perhaps "In the City" from The Warriors soundtrack), a chance to show their skills, and a chance for a shot at the title a la Warriors.

Ernie is gradually transforming the team into the Warriors of the East, with Warriors-like success, three All Stars, tons of draft picks, and lots of cap flexibility for years to come. Nothing bad can be said about this great looking team because Ernie is the Teflon Don Juan. To show the enduring love they have for the game they have dedicated their lives to, the players are adopting "Balls Deep" as their motto for the coming year. The Warriors are the model. The sky's not the limit. The ground's the floor! To quote REO Speedwagon (and Markiell), KEEP ON ROLLING!

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Post#1366 » by NatP4 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:59 pm

Hahahahaha when you don’t have any cap space
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Post#1367 » by NatP4 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:01 pm

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Post#1368 » by Eli Babak » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:03 pm

Of course he uses injury and bad luck cards. Sad that Ted doesn't care and understand the game of basketball at all so nothing's going to change. Sigh.

But if he manages to sign Nerlens Noel to a team-friendly deal I'll give him some respect.
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Post#1369 » by closg00 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:23 pm

Haha, what a slick politician. Ernie’s responses are spectacularly Orwellian and smooth, evidently Ted just laps this con up. Ernie has 4 wings including Devin Robinson, and he has gifted centers Allen and Williams to our competition.
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Post#1370 » by NatP4 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:25 pm

closg00 wrote:Haha, what a slick politician. Ernie’s responses are spectacularly Orwellian and smooth, evidently Ted just laps this con up. Ernie has 4 wings including Devin Robinson, and he has gifted centers Allen and Williams to our competition.


Devin Robinson isn’t a wing
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Post#1371 » by closg00 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:38 pm

NatP4 wrote:
closg00 wrote:Haha, what a slick politician. Ernie’s responses are spectacularly Orwellian and smooth, evidently Ted just laps this con up. Ernie has 4 wings including Devin Robinson, and he has gifted centers Allen and Williams to our competition.


Devin Robinson isn’t a wing


He is listed as one, but he could probably play some PF in certain line-ups
https://247sports.com/Player/Devin-Robinson-22513/college-134981
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Post#1372 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:42 am

Finally the breakout trade - mark it here, mark it now. This is it.
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Post#1373 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:33 pm

closg00 wrote:Haha, what a slick politician. Ernie’s responses are spectacularly Orwellian and smooth, evidently Ted just laps this con up. Ernie has 4 wings...

Do you think that's why he keeps flying in circles?
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Re: Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2) 

Post#1374 » by payitforward » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:46 pm

closg00 wrote:
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closg00 wrote:Haha, what a slick politician. Ernie’s responses are spectacularly Orwellian and smooth, evidently Ted just laps this con up. Ernie has 4 wings including Devin Robinson, and he has gifted centers Allen and Williams to our competition.


Devin Robinson isn’t a wing


He is listed as one, but he could probably play some PF in certain line-ups
https://247sports.com/Player/Devin-Robinson-22513/college-134981

Absolutely not a wing -- notice in this footage the way he decoys the opponent into thinking he is playing the 3.

Actually, at 6'8" 201 lbs, Devin Robinson has tremendous size as a SG.
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Post#1375 » by payitforward » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:19 am

I just thought of a weird question, & I wasn't sure I knew the answer -- so I want to ask you guys.

I'm serious about this: do you think Ernie actually comes into work every day? Or most days? Like... do you think he got up this morning, showered, shaved & brushed his teeth, & then went to the Wizards office? Sat down at his desk? And...

...did what? I mean, what does he do? Does he call around to other GMs & shoot the sh*t for a while, gather skuttlebutt & so forth? Does he... I don't know... meet with his staff?

Does he have staff? If so, what do they do? I mean... does he have his staff call Doc Rivers & propose to trade Marcin Gortat for Austin Rivers? When Doc calls back to talk about it... does he talk with Ernie? Or with someone on Ernie's staff? Like maybe I don't know let me see I've got it -- a "trade expert?"

Is that how it works? & when there are no opportunities to make trades like that -- not even to trade a R2 pick for a $20 gift certificate at Legal Seafood -- what does Ernie do then? Does he head home? Does he arrange a business lunch first (you have to eat, but why do you have to pay?), & then he heads home?

If he stays in the office, I don't understand & I really want someone to tell me: what does he do with his time? I sure can't figure it out, so I hope someone can.

What's even harder for me to figure out is this: what does he do the next day? Does he come in the next day too? Why? To do what? & when he's done that, whatever it is, what does he do then?

It's a mystery to me, I can tell you that. Must be someone here who can figure it out -- & if so, please tell me. I'd really like to know.
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Post#1376 » by trast66 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:53 pm

payitforward wrote:I just thought of a weird question, & I wasn't sure I knew the answer -- so I want to ask you guys.

I'm serious about this: do you think Ernie actually comes into work every day? Or most days? Like... do you think he got up this morning, showered, shaved & brushed his teeth, & then went to the Wizards office? Sat down at his desk? And...

...did what? I mean, what does he do? Does he call around to other GMs & shoot the sh*t for a while, gather skuttlebutt & so forth? Does he... I don't know... meet with his staff?

Does he have staff? If so, what do they do? I mean... does he have his staff call Doc Rivers & propose to trade Marcin Gortat for Austin Rivers? When Doc calls back to talk about it... does he talk with Ernie? Or with someone on Ernie's staff? Like maybe I don't know let me see I've got it -- a "trade expert?"

Is that how it works? & when there are no opportunities to make trades like that -- not even to trade a R2 pick for a $20 gift certificate at Legal Seafood -- what does Ernie do then? Does he head home? Does he arrange a business lunch first (you have to eat, but why do you have to pay?), & then he heads home?

If he stays in the office, I don't understand & I really want someone to tell me: what does he do with his time? I sure can't figure it out, so I hope someone can.

What's even harder for me to figure out is this: what does he do the next day? Does he come in the next day too? Why? To do what? & when he's done that, whatever it is, what does he do then?

It's a mystery to me, I can tell you that. Must be someone here who can figure it out -- & if so, please tell me. I'd really like to know.


Agree would be great to shadow him for a week to find out. Just from reading various interviews he seems to do the standard GM duties, player relations, owner pleasing, gossiping with other GM’s, league insiders and the press ( one thing he does well is prevent leaks), , front office hiring, and the occasional scouting trip. He does not strike me as a workaholic. Fairly normal stuff. Certainly not a lot of long term thinking other than his own job survival

I don’t like his performance, but have respect for him as a man, came to country as immigrant who didn’t speak a word of English, great college career, nba with limited skills (and being Jewish) , longtime GM, nba lifer, seems like a good family man. Just has stunk at his job for a decade.
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Re: Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2) 

Post#1377 » by closg00 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:31 am

payitforward wrote:
closg00 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
Devin Robinson isn’t a wing


He is listed as one, but he could probably play some PF in certain line-ups
https://247sports.com/Player/Devin-Robinson-22513/college-134981

Absolutely not a wing -- notice in this footage the way he decoys the opponent into thinking he is playing the 3.

Actually, at 6'8" 201 lbs, Devin Robinson has tremendous size as a SG.


Good, maybe we'll see him later in the season with the small-ball roll-out
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Re: Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2) 

Post#1378 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:38 pm

payitforward wrote:
closg00 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
Devin Robinson isn’t a wing


He is listed as one, but he could probably play some PF in certain line-ups
https://247sports.com/Player/Devin-Robinson-22513/college-134981

Absolutely not a wing -- notice in this footage the way he decoys the opponent into thinking he is playing the 3.

Actually, at 6'8" 201 lbs, Devin Robinson has tremendous size as a SG.


In response to PIF’s musings about Ernie’s work routine...

Not sure, but I gotta guess there’s a healthy dose of sereptitious porn at his desk when he’s there.

Also, I’m guessing snacks.
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Post#1379 » by leswizards » Mon Jul 2, 2018 12:50 pm

There are C and PF's on the market that would be significant upgrades over what the Wizards have, and some of these free agents can be had at a discount (Nerlens Noel, David West, Dwight Howard), and the Wizards have the MLE to sign them but can't (unless they figure out a sign and trade that unloads bad contracts) because doing so would put them into the luxury tax. How Ted Leonsis can't see that this is an indictment of Ernie Grunfeld tenure is beyond me.
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Post#1380 » by NatP4 » Mon Jul 2, 2018 12:52 pm

they are already in the luxury tax and still looking to sign Noel. Completely misinformed

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