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Post#1661 » by miller31time » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:02 pm

Frichuela wrote:Ladies and gents, can we all raise our hands and say F**** you Terd you clown


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Post#1662 » by Silvie Lysandra » Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:46 pm

If I was Tommy I would just walk the minute his contract is up. I'm actually convinced he's at *worst* a top half GM in the NBA. But he has an absolutely impossible mandate to work with. He basically has to find the next Giannis in the next 5 years. You can't win with this ownership. Nobody could under these mandates.
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Post#1663 » by mhd » Fri Jul 1, 2022 1:15 am

Remember, Turd is the same guy who did this:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/4/8/18299948/washington-wizards-ernie-grunfeld-fans

"Strom, who now lives in Minneapolis, took a “Fire Ernie” sign to a game in 2016 in the hope that Leonsis would notice. After all, he had once before. Earlier that season, Leonsis had approached two other sign-holders and essentially told them to grow up. (He then returned from halftime with a cookie—a mocking “thank you.”)"
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Post#1665 » by Frichuela » Wed Jul 6, 2022 11:10 pm

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Terd is such a moron: “franchise player” and “legacy” :lol:
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Post#1666 » by ozthegap » Wed Jul 6, 2022 11:44 pm

They gave this fool a no-trade clause and a 15% kicker!! He will send them into two decades of a rebuild when he demands a trade and forces them to accept the worst possible return by vetoing every decent offer! Just when you think they can’t get stupider they exceed all expectations again.
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Post#1667 » by Benjammin » Thu Jul 7, 2022 2:46 am

It's like when Edward Bennett Williams said of George Allen "He had an unlimited budget and he exceeded it." They basically gave Brad's agent a blank contract and told the agent to fill it out however they wanted it.

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Post#1668 » by mhd » Thu Jul 7, 2022 2:51 am

LOL at the comments on Turd's post. It's 99% negative on the contract. All true die-hard Wizards fans hate this deal.
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Post#1669 » by AFM » Thu Jul 7, 2022 2:56 am

The type of shrewd negotiating one expects from a business savant like Terd.
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Post#1670 » by WallToWall » Thu Jul 7, 2022 3:36 am

The Beal deal has really drawn my ire. In one move, this owner has handcuffed his team like when we signed Wall, and Arenas, etc, to huge contracts that made them virtually unmovable. To boot, he gave a trade kicker, and a no-trade (from the team perspective) clause. Unbelievable! This basically limits the types of moves the team can make to build a contender. He is, I am now convinced, not interested in winning championships. He just wants to put a product out there and make a profit. He will not get my $.
I don’t fault Beal for taking the deal. Who, in their right mind, would turn down that deal? I fault TL for agreeing to this deal. I don’t fault TS either. This is not his doing.
Play-in games and 1st round losses are our ceiling. It will be that way for the next 4 years, or when Beal has had enough.
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Post#1671 » by WallToWall » Fri Jul 8, 2022 11:42 pm

Sorry, but I am not of the belief that we are ONE free agent signing away. TL is right in that we drafted a few role players. But that’s where it ends.
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Post#1672 » by AFM » Fri Jul 8, 2022 11:44 pm

This thread should be pinned by principle. Mods you know what to do.
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Post#1674 » by closg00 » Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:02 pm

Great channel, but he obviously doesn't know enough about Ted
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Post#1675 » by Dat2U » Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:15 am

Yeah there's no blowing up here. Beal could ask out by the deadline but knowing the Wiz, they'll double down, trade for another mediocre vet just to make a failed playoff run.

Even if they come to grips and deal Beal, it may be for veteran players to help the team compete.
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Post#1676 » by doclinkin » Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:25 am

closg00 wrote:Great channel, but he obviously doesn't know enough about Ted


The one thing that's true though, every time I try to convince myself the Wiz have improved enough to take a jump, I look around the Eastern Conference and shake my head at how tough it is becoming.

Celts -- added Brogdon. Defense will be nasty. Love the pick up of Trevion Wms for free.
Bucks --have Giannis, kept everyone else. Health is key.
Sixers -- added toughness in PJ Tucker and Trezl, start the year with no distractions.
Raptors -- crazy deep in 6'9"+ athletes, added Otto Porter and my guy Christian Koloko.
Hawks -- added DJ Murray, both of the lesser Holliday brothers, my other guy AJ Griffin in the draft. Have John Collins as trade bait.
Cavs -- Added Donovan Mitchell to an already tough tough team. Gave up nothing really this year. I think Agbaji will be good, Spida is better.
Bulls -- deep in solid talent, picked up my other other guy, intangibles king Dalen Terry, instant injection of attitude
Knicks -- added Brunson, finally a good PG in NYC. Perfect fit for the city.
Pacers -- Added coach Rick Carlisle. Daniel Theis. Defense will be solid. Had offense already, added Bennedict Mathurin great fit next to Haliburton. And they already had shotmaker Duarte coming up.
Heat -- hmm, added no one, lost PJ Tucker, they seem ripe to fall if one of their starters nurses an injury. Lowry is 98 years old in basketball years. But until then Bam, Jimmy and Lowry are tough for anyone. And Coach Spo seems to make anyone good.
Pistons -- added Jaden Ivey, Nerlens Noel, Alec Burk. Ton of young talent growing up together.
Hornets -- probably tanking, may lose Miles Bridges to incarceration. But they added defensive giant Mark Williams.
Magic -- a ton of young talent, at some point something clicks. Probably not yet.
Nets -- ripe to detonate. Volatile mix. Durant wants out. Kyrie is never predictable. Simmons sat out last year with hurt feelings a bad back.

I can convince myself in two directions on our team. We could click, stay healthy, play really well off each other with good chemistry, and if all is working perfectly: become a solid 8 seed. (Especially if teams start tanking early to land in the VW lotto sweepstakes).

On the other hand most of the teams that are already ahead of us have gotten significantly better in the offseason. But we can't tank. So: play in games it is.
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Post#1677 » by Dat2U » Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:35 am

Nets aren't detonating. They added the ultimate glue guy in Royce O'Neale to the dirty work, something they were desperately missing last year. Also added T.J. Warren and getting a healthy Joe Harris back. Not to mention Ben is finally healthy. They may not like each other but that's not a requirement of a contender. They are overflowing with talent. If they go small ball with Ben at C, they could literally run teams out the building, overwhelming them with skill.

Wiz ceiling IMO is 9th although i currently have them 11th. They are not getting past the top 8 without some dramatic injury or major trade. Boston, Milwaukee, Philly, Brooklyn are all legit contenders. Cavs, Mia, Atl all could win 50+ games. I have Toronto 8th and as doc said, they are loaded with length in the front court and should win at least 45+ games based on the roster.

If Beal bounces back, KP is healthy and happy & Deni breaks out, maybe you can push for 40-42 wins which will put us in the same breath as Chicago & NY. Lonzo Ball's health is a major concern for the Bulls as he's their straw that stirs the drink on both sides of the court. They'll also need better play from the C spot so adding Drummond may help since Vucevic was so bad last year. The Knicks talent wise aren't much better than the Wiz but collectively they defend because of their coach even though I don't think much of 2 of their main scoring options, Randle or Barrett. Brunson is solid and I like Quickley but they'll struggle to score. They look like a 38-win team to me.
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Post#1678 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:06 am

doclinkin wrote:
closg00 wrote:Great channel, but he obviously doesn't know enough about Ted


The one thing that's true though, every time I try to convince myself the Wiz have improved enough to take a jump, I look around the Eastern Conference and shake my head at how tough it is becoming.

Celts -- added Brogdon. Defense will be nasty. Love the pick up of Trevion Wms for free.
Bucks --have Giannis, kept everyone else. Health is key.
Sixers -- added toughness in PJ Tucker and Trezl, start the year with no distractions.
Raptors -- crazy deep in 6'9"+ athletes, added Otto Porter and my guy Christian Koloko.
Hawks -- added DJ Murray, both of the lesser Holliday brothers, my other guy AJ Griffin in the draft. Have John Collins as trade bait.
Cavs -- Added Donovan Mitchell to an already tough tough team. Gave up nothing really this year. I think Agbaji will be good, Spida is better.
Bulls -- deep in solid talent, picked up my other other guy, intangibles king Dalen Terry, instant injection of attitude
Knicks -- added Brunson, finally a good PG in NYC. Perfect fit for the city.
Pacers -- Added coach Rick Carlisle. Daniel Theis. Defense will be solid. Had offense already, added Bennedict Mathurin great fit next to Haliburton. And they already had shotmaker Duarte coming up.
Heat -- hmm, added no one, lost PJ Tucker, they seem ripe to fall if one of their starters nurses an injury. Lowry is 98 years old in basketball years. But until then Bam, Jimmy and Lowry are tough for anyone. And Coach Spo seems to make anyone good.
Pistons -- added Jaden Ivey, Nerlens Noel, Alec Burk. Ton of young talent growing up together.
Hornets -- probably tanking, may lose Miles Bridges to incarceration. But they added defensive giant Mark Williams.
Magic -- a ton of young talent, at some point something clicks. Probably not yet.
Nets -- ripe to detonate. Volatile mix. Durant wants out. Kyrie is never predictable. Simmons sat out last year with hurt feelings a bad back.

I can convince myself in two directions on our team. We could click, stay healthy, play really well off each other with good chemistry, and if all is working perfectly: become a solid 8 seed. (Especially if teams start tanking early to land in the VW lotto sweepstakes).

On the other hand most of the teams that are already ahead of us have gotten significantly better in the offseason. But we can't tank. So: play in games it is.

Just bouncing off doclinkin's post:

teams that I think are likely to be worse than the Wizards (basketball prediction is inherently probabalistic, folks, don't forget!):
Pistons (adding Noel and Burks is a bug not a feature, probably too soon for them)
Hornets
Pacers (inter alia Carlisle is cooked and they've spent the summer trying to trade some of their better players to no avail)
Hawks (I'm a Trey Young disbeliever, & don't think they've improved)
Bulls (could be wrong if they put it all together)
Magic (same view as doc, think it's a little more likely they put it together this year maybe)
Knicks (they've taken a biggish step forward with Brunson - I think they will be #7/#8 in the East)
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Mystery segment - odds are that the Wizards are as good as/better than one of these teams
Miami - this could be a step too far for them
Raptors - can they get this together this year? do they have the star punch?
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so that would make the Wizards somewhere near #6 in the East (counting at least one of Magic/Heat/Raptors to be better).
fwiw, I think #5-#11 in the East will be pretty close - like 3 games or less.
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Post#1679 » by Dark Faze » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:09 pm

The one saving grace is that the Wiz have a history of dishing out undeserving contracts and then turning bearish a year or two out from signing it. I actually wouldn't be shocked if they are the one to sniff around for a trade in a year or two moreso than Brad initiating something.
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Post#1680 » by closg00 » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:35 pm

doclinkin wrote:
closg00 wrote:Great channel, but he obviously doesn't know enough about Ted


The one thing that's true though, every time I try to convince myself the Wiz have improved enough to take a jump, I look around the Eastern Conference and shake my head at how tough it is becoming.

Celts -- added Brogdon. Defense will be nasty. Love the pick up of Trevion Wms for free.
Bucks --have Giannis, kept everyone else. Health is key.
Sixers -- added toughness in PJ Tucker and Trezl, start the year with no distractions.
Raptors -- crazy deep in 6'9"+ athletes, added Otto Porter and my guy Christian Koloko.
Hawks -- added DJ Murray, both of the lesser Holliday brothers, my other guy AJ Griffin in the draft. Have John Collins as trade bait.
Cavs -- Added Donovan Mitchell to an already tough tough team. Gave up nothing really this year. I think Agbaji will be good, Spida is better.
Bulls -- deep in solid talent, picked up my other other guy, intangibles king Dalen Terry, instant injection of attitude
Knicks -- added Brunson, finally a good PG in NYC. Perfect fit for the city.
Pacers -- Added coach Rick Carlisle. Daniel Theis. Defense will be solid. Had offense already, added Bennedict Mathurin great fit next to Haliburton. And they already had shotmaker Duarte coming up.
Heat -- hmm, added no one, lost PJ Tucker, they seem ripe to fall if one of their starters nurses an injury. Lowry is 98 years old in basketball years. But until then Bam, Jimmy and Lowry are tough for anyone. And Coach Spo seems to make anyone good.
Pistons -- added Jaden Ivey, Nerlens Noel, Alec Burk. Ton of young talent growing up together.
Hornets -- probably tanking, may lose Miles Bridges to incarceration. But they added defensive giant Mark Williams.
Magic -- a ton of young talent, at some point something clicks. Probably not yet.
Nets -- ripe to detonate. Volatile mix. Durant wants out. Kyrie is never predictable. Simmons sat out last year with hurt feelings a bad back.

I can convince myself in two directions on our team. We could click, stay healthy, play really well off each other with good chemistry, and if all is working perfectly: become a solid 8 seed. (Especially if teams start tanking early to land in the VW lotto sweepstakes).

On the other hand most of the teams that are already ahead of us have gotten significantly better in the offseason. But we can't tank. So: play in games it is.


Exactly this, Ted would be thrilled, I wonder how-long Brad will be satisfied with making the play-in>

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