Official Trade Thread Part XLVII

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'd rather keep Bagley & trade Branham -- if possible -- for whatever draft capital we can get for him.

We would get zero draft capital for Branham. Nobody gives draft capital to a 10th man on a bad team making double the vet minimum. Branham is salary filler, nothing else....

:) -- I know....

Bagley has value because he is outplaying his minimum salary contract by a ton. And I don't mind trading him because he will be an unrestricted free agent this summer anyhow. If we want him on the roster going forward, it makes no difference whether he finishes the season on our roster. We can still sign him this summer. (Remember, we signed him last summer after trading him to Memphis at the last Trade Deadline.)

The only thing we lose by trading Bagley right now is more games - which is what we are trying to do.

All good points, of course. Somehow -- slowly & w/o my noticing it -- Bagley has become one of my favorite Wizards. Go figure.

Still... I could get used to the idea that every off season we sign him for 1 year, then trade him for some minimal value at the deadline, then sign him again the following off season! It's like free money.

Mine, too.

I think Bagley should become the new Anthony Gill.

[closg00]

Trade idea to take the Raps Quickley.
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/washington-wizards/what-wizards-must-next-trae-young-trade-raptors

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That Quickley contract is too ugly.

What about Jonathan Isaac? We could send them Midds and they would send us Isaac and maybe some expiring contracts - Jett Howard and Tyus Jones possibly. If they attach a draft pick, even a far off future one, I'd probably do that, as long as it's a first round pick. Need to keep stacking those assets.

Or something smaller - Branham and Bagley for Isaac and a pick?

[closg00]

Perhaps there is a KD curse, the man has bad juju.

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[MDStar]

With the news that Anthony Davis is going to be out for several months, the Wizards could do something hilarious and figure out a way to add him, to Trae, the top 4 pick and Sarr+ and try to go for a legit winning team. Now I personally don’t want AD and his fragile, aging self but one can’t say it wouldn’t be interesting to see on paper.

[payitforward]

I wouldn't trade our top pick for AD! let alone what you're suggesting. In fact, I wouldn't dream of trading Sarr straight up for him.
wait... i read tht all wrong! sorry!

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All the same, I wouldn't be confident that AD has enough left in the tank....

[WallToWall]

Has there been a player who has been traded away twice, in consecutive seasons, by one team? I *think* the answer is "no", and for only that reason I would entertain trading Bagley. He has outplayed his contract, and is value to any team needing a C that he goes to. Of course, I would without hesitation, re-sign him in free agency...again.

As for Middleton... wouldnt it be better if we dont trade him and let his $33M contract expire? The free agency market could be good this year. Hartenstein, John Collins, Kuminga, Nurkic, Mitchell Robinson, Robert Williams, Ayton, many more.

[payitforward]

Has there been a player who has been traded away twice, in consecutive seasons, by one team? I *think* the answer is "no", and for only that reason I would entertain trading Bagley. He has outplayed his contract, and is value to any team needing a C that he goes to. Of course, I would without hesitation, re-sign him in free agency...again....

Yep!!!

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As for Middleton... wouldnt it be better if we dont trade him and let his $33M contract expire? The free agency market could be good this year. Hartenstein, John Collins, Kuminga, Nurkic, Mitchell Robinson, Robert Williams, Ayton, many more.

Yep again!

[tontoz]

Has there been a player who has been traded away twice, in consecutive seasons, by one team? I *think* the answer is "no", and for only that reason I would entertain trading Bagley. He has outplayed his contract, and is value to any team needing a C that he goes to. Of course, I would without hesitation, re-sign him in free agency...again.

As for Middleton... wouldnt it be better if we dont trade him and let his $33M contract expire? The free agency market could be good this year. Hartenstein, John Collins, Kuminga, Nurkic, Mitchell Robinson, Robert Williams, Ayton, many more.

Actually it would be better if we just buy out Middleton, which is what i expect to happen.

[lastemp3ror]

Has there been a player who has been traded away twice, in consecutive seasons, by one team? I *think* the answer is "no", and for only that reason I would entertain trading Bagley. He has outplayed his contract, and is value to any team needing a C that he goes to. Of course, I would without hesitation, re-sign him in free agency...again.

As for Middleton... wouldnt it be better if we dont trade him and let his $33M contract expire? The free agency market could be good this year. Hartenstein, John Collins, Kuminga, Nurkic, Mitchell Robinson, Robert Williams, Ayton, many more.

Actually it would be better if we just buy out Middleton, which is what i expect to happen.

Will he find a team that will make up the difference between the money he loses in a buy-out and his new contract? He looks a bit cooked out there, and I don't see more than a veteran minimum contract in his future.

Financially speaking, it may be best for him to stick it out get all of his remaining big contract from the Wizards, then sign on a vet minimum with probably any team of his choice next year.

[gambitx777]

I only wanna trade Bagley so we can sign him again in the summer for slightly more money and trade home again

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[Lucky Once]

The possible break out of Peyton Watson in Denver opens up some interesting possibilities. If this increase in production is real then Denver is going to have some difficult choices to make this offseason. He will be restricted so they will have the ability to match any offers but they're sitting at $203m payroll with only 7 players (not including team options, etc). To match a big offer they're likely looking at a salary dump of Christian Braun or Cam Johnson ($23m and $21m).

The Wizards could potentially poach Watson (turns 24 in September) or extract some value by facilitating a salary dump to allow Denver to resign him. Apologies if this was already discussed.

[Frichuela]

As posted by Lucky Once, given Peyton Watson's emergence in Denver, I wonder if Dawkins is sniffing around to take Cam Johnson's contract off their hands so Denver can resign Watson next year. Johnson has an additional year in his contract.

Obviously, we would be looking to get their 2026 1st in such trade plus young talent (DaRon Holmes?).

Another option is to wait and bid aggressively for Watson in RFA...but I guess Denver will likely match, Watson's numbers are impressive as of late...

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[ledell_gumbo]

Even if Denver needs to clear salary, all those players are too valuable to be salary dumps. Pistons, for example, would be happy to take Cam Johnson, I'm sure.

[pcbothwel]

Even if Denver needs to clear salary, all those players are too valuable to be salary dumps. Pistons, for example, would be happy to take Cam Johnson, I'm sure.

Agreed... Although Braun and Nnaji making 30M next year is a tough pill

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Has there been a player who has been traded away twice, in consecutive seasons, by one team? I *think* the answer is "no", and for only that reason I would entertain trading Bagley. He has outplayed his contract, and is value to any team needing a C that he goes to. Of course, I would without hesitation, re-sign him in free agency...again.

As for Middleton... wouldnt it be better if we dont trade him and let his $33M contract expire? The free agency market could be good this year. Hartenstein, John Collins, Kuminga, Nurkic, Mitchell Robinson, Robert Williams, Ayton, many more.

Actually it would be better if we just buy out Middleton, which is what i expect to happen.

Agreed.

By buying him out, Khris could join the Lakers, Celtics, Nuggets, Spurs, or some other team with high playoffs hopes.

Midds can still hoop.

[Lucky Once]

Even if Denver needs to clear salary, all those players are too valuable to be salary dumps. Pistons, for example, would be happy to take Cam Johnson, I'm sure.

It all depends on the deal and the players involved. It's possible the Wizards could provide some tax relief for one or more of the teams involved in exchange for some asset(s). Just something to consider.

[prime1time]

As posted by Lucky Once, given Peyton Watson's emergence in Denver, I wonder if Dawkins is sniffing around to take Cam Johnson's contract off their hands so Denver can resign Watson next year. Johnson has an additional year in his contract.

Obviously, we would be looking to get their 2026 1st in such trade plus young talent (DaRon Holmes?).

Another option is to wait and bid aggressively for Watson in RFA...but I guess Denver will likely match, Watson's numbers are impressive as of late...

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You think Cam Johnson has a negative trade value?

[joshuacf]

We need to trade Bagley ASAP so we can find out what we have in Vuk… no reason that Bagley should be playing 27 mpg and Vuk 8.