Big Balls traded to Boston for (almost) NOTHING

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Way to go Wizards! Take a decent bench player having his best year, bench him and drive down his value, then, while dealing from a position of weakness, trade him for a DLeague scrub big man.


#FireGrunfeld

+1

I would have liked a second round pick. The only way this isn't a negative is if they have a very good call up from the D-League.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Also, (trying desperately to find some positive here), at least Collins is an elite defender. He's absolutely worthless on offense, but is legitimately one of the best defenders in the league.

Synergy says he's the 10th most efficient defender in the entire NBA this season, and the 2nd best with at least 100 plays "against" him. Still a small sample size, but hey, I'll grasping for straws here.

With that said, the last thing we needed was another big man. I'm sorry.

Ted doesn't want any bad guys on the team. Jordan threw his jersey, so he's a bad guy. Ted doesn't like that. Buh bye, Jordan. That and Crawford really no longer fit the team's plans.

I think they did Jordan Crawford a solid by letting him go play for Doc Rivers. Crawford did what he was told here, but Beal is the future. Crawford should have been traded the instant they drafted Beal IMO. At least Jordan has a good chance to have a good career from here out, just like Andray Blatche.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

So what is Almond up to these days....

As bad as he looked on offense the team went 6-0 and he finished with some ridiculously high positive points per 100 possessions with Almond on the floor.

There are better prospects in the D-League who are also younger, but I believe Almond will break out if given a chance.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Crawford sucks and hurts the team when he's on the floor. He's a distraction in the lockerroom. We saved 2 million dollars. At the end of the day, who cares? If you think big picture, nothing's changed...


...we're still screwed.

+1

We are until Ted Leonsis trades Ernie Grunfeld.

[rockymac52]

Worst 2 deadline deals, IMO, came from possibly the worst 2 GMs (both of which have miraculously and inexplicably held their positions for over a decade) - Ernie Grunfeld and Geoff Petrie.

Are you telling me we couldn't have beat the Rockets' package that got them Thomas Robinson?

All they had to do was give up Patrick Patterson, Cole Aldrich, and Toney Douglas. Aldrich and Douglas were essentially just expiring contracts in the deal, as was Francisco Garcia on the other side. So all we had to do was come up with a better offer than Patrick Patterson and we could have had Thomas Robinson.

If you start our offer with Jordan Crawford, you're arguably there already. And if not, then you're damn close. Throw in one of Vesely, Singleton, or Booker and you probably have a deal. Easy as that.

Now, sure, maybe we legitimately didn't want TRob. Or maybe the Kings legitimately didn't want Crawford. Both are more than plausible. But come on...

I refuse to believe the Wizards couldn't get as much as a 2nd round draft pick from ANY team in return for Crawford.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Wizards have sold a 2nd rounder that could have been DeJuan Blair, when Blair was good coming out of college. They drafted Mack and cut him (when other guys like Charles Jenkins, drafted after Mack, are still with their teams). They also wasted a high second round pick on Satoransky, when nobody would have picked the guy before the Wizards' later pick.

Washington didn't even want a round 2 pick, IMO, just to show they're stuck on stupid IMO.

[queridiculo]

How the **** did this trade thread make it to page 15???

[dangermouse]

Ah, I didnt realise Barbosa was injured. That changes things and makes this trade seem rather stupid. We literally have gifted the Celtics Crawford.

Still, some gift....

Count me in as someone who would like to see the great Almond return.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

How is this a good trade in Ernie eyes? We gain nothing that's the point of trade is to get better not give the other team something and get nothing back. Ernie is the worst gm in the nba by far.

It has been a really cruel twist, having to be a fan of this Wizards team with Ernie Grunfeld allowed to commit "GM malpractice" all these years.

The man is so bad it is hard to fathom.

[JAR69]

I don't get what all this complaining is about. JC is one of the least efficient players in the league, a shot-jacker who ruins the offensive flow and plays terrible defense. Don't you think GMs around the league know this, too? And he had become a cancer, interfering with the good team dynamic the Wizards have built. So the Wizards essentially cut him. And there is some value to eliminating his $2.2 million contract next year. While alone it doesn't open up any cap space, if we make other moves this summer (trade Okafor or Ariza), then that space will become valuable. Yes, I would have preferred a 2nd round pick as well, but we have no idea if anyone offered that.

[dangermouse]

Fab Melo would have been as good as a 2nd rounder.

But then you think, well, we wouldn't have developed him anyway. Look at Seraphin. Tonnes of talent and he has barely developed his game past his hookshot and mid range jumper. Sure they have improved really well and his man defense is decent, but the guy still has no idea how to rebound, switch on defense or pass the ball out of the double team. Fab would stagnate here.

Who'd be a Wizards fan...

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I didn't like Crawford's game. i wanted him traded. However, he improved enough this season (better passing, hit game winning shot at Portland again, operated in the team concept most of the time, got way better in PER and WS/48) I thought they could at least get a 2nd round pick for Jordan.

Since they dealt him for nothing, I hope on 4/7 when the Wizards play the Celtics that Crawford goes for 30+.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

There's a Pink Floyd song that perfectly captures the essence of being a Wizards fan.

It's called "Comfortably Numb".


I understand Crawford wanted out. But I am truly surprised they couldn't get more in return. Melo actually interested me because I thought Nene was the perfect mentor for him, and he could actually have some value as an asset with potential. I actually thought Crawford could get a late 1st round pick back, but it seems he couldn't even get back a late 2nd round pick or a future 2nd round pick.

I guess this sends a message to the team... If you play selfish then pout and complain you'll go to an actual NBA team with a proud history and headed to the playoffs.

[DCZards]

I don't get what all this complaining is about. JC is one of the least efficient players in the league, a shot-jacker who ruins the offensive flow and plays terrible defense. Don't you think GMs around the league know this, too? And he had become a cancer, interfering with the good team dynamic the Wizards have built. So the Wizards essentially cut him. And there is some value to eliminating his $2.2 million contract next year. While alone it doesn't open up any cap space, if we make other moves this summer (trade Okafor or Ariza), then that space will become valuable. Yes, I would have preferred a 2nd round pick as well, but we have no idea if anyone offered that.

....and on top of that...most players picked in the second rd turn out to be worthless, non contributors anyway.

[hands11]

At least this opens up a lot more minutes for Cartier Martin whenever he's healthy enough to play again (should be soon, right?).

Oh Joy. Cartier Martin

I'll make sure I set my DVR now.

[AFM]

Hands, I had no idea Crawford was 3rd in PTS/ISO Possessions. We don't have anyone who can ISO now.
Who do we give the ball to when we're down 3 with 4 seconds left? Im not sure Beal has the handles yet.

[hands11]

I didn't like Crawford's game. i wanted him traded. However, he improved enough this season (better passing, hit game winning shot at Portland again, operated in the team concept most of the time, got way better in PER and WS/48) I thought they could at least get a 2nd round pick for Jordan.

Since they dealt him for nothing, I hope on 4/7 when the Wizards play the Celtics that Crawford goes for 30+.

I want to see him go against Wall and school him.

[hands11]

There's a Pink Floyd song that perfectly captures the essence of being a Wizards fan.

It's called "Comfortably Numb".


I understand Crawford wanted out. But I am truly surprised they couldn't get more in return. Melo actually interested me because I thought Nene was the perfect mentor for him, and he could actually have some value as an asset with potential. I actually thought Crawford could get a late 1st round pick back, but it seems he couldn't even get back a late 2nd round pick or a future 2nd round pick.

I guess this sends a message to the team... If you play selfish then pout and complain you'll go to an actual NBA team with a proud history and headed to the playoffs.

Seems we have established that. Not that I didn't like getting Nene for McGee but I'm sure McGee isn't all that upset getting paid and going to a playoff team.

[tontoz]

....and on top of that...most players picked in the second rd turn out to be worthless, non contributors anyway.

That is certainly true when EG is making the picks. He has had high second rounders year after year and has nothing to show for them. Meanwhile other teams are finding useful players in the second round or even undrafted free agents. Just looking at teams we played this month....

Ersan
Isiah
Bledsoe
Singler
Novak
Amir Johnson
Monta Ellis
Deandre Jordan
Matt Barnes
Manu
GAry Neal
Danny Green

None of these guys was picked in the 1st round. There is value in the second round and smart GMs can find it. I would agree though that in the hands of EG a second round pick is basically worthless.

[montestewart]

I don't get what all this complaining is about. JC is one of the least efficient players in the league, a shot-jacker who ruins the offensive flow and plays terrible defense. Don't you think GMs around the league know this, too? And he had become a cancer, interfering with the good team dynamic the Wizards have built. So the Wizards essentially cut him. And there is some value to eliminating his $2.2 million contract next year. While alone it doesn't open up any cap space, if we make other moves this summer (trade Okafor or Ariza), then that space will become valuable. Yes, I would have preferred a 2nd round pick as well, but we have no idea if anyone offered that.

....and on top of that...most players picked in the second rd turn out to be worthless, non contributors anyway.

And yet teams pay $2.5 million for them. Think of it as EG giving away money.

I have no idea if anyone offered a 2nd. Under different management, I imagine Crawford with higher trade value at the deadline. Under a different GM, I imagine higher return on that trade. It doesn't take a great imagination to see that, just a look at EG's track record. He's the perpetual sucker at the table. At this point in his career, EG becomes a punch line even when he makes relatively minor moves. He's the Inspector Clouseau of the NBA.

One bright side to this trade: dumping Crawford on the heels of dumping Mack perhaps shows Terd and Ernie slowly getting over their own brilliance in assembling the team's spectacular young core. They better be willing to go a little further, as I can't see this team going far with all four of Booker, Seraphin, Vesely, and Singleton still on the roster. I predict they will depart in ascending draft order (cause that's how they do), so Booker's next.