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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#281 » by DCZards » Mon Jan 6, 2025 4:02 pm

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DCZards wrote:I thought going into the season that Sarr was best-suited to play the 4. And I expected him to log a lot of minutes next to JV, which hasn’t happened.

There are not many big physical centers in the NBA anymore, especially in the East, so I think Sarr can get away with primarily playing the 5. Although I’d still like to see some lineups with him at the 4.

I don’t know how much tougher Sarr will get but I expect him to get bigger and stronger.

Sengun, JJJ, and KAT are three of the best offensive bigs in the NBA…they crush everybody and not just Sarr.



Sengun averages 19 with a TS of 54%. He can't shoot but it didn't matter against Sarr. He dropped 27/17 on us shooting 12/19. He took Sarr to the rim routinely.

Sarr was 19 yrs old playing in his 9th NBA game when the Zards played Sengun & Houston.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#282 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 6, 2025 4:14 pm

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DCZards wrote:I thought going into the season that Sarr was best-suited to play the 4. And I expected him to log a lot of minutes next to JV, which hasn’t happened.

There are not many big physical centers in the NBA anymore, especially in the East, so I think Sarr can get away with primarily playing the 5. Although I’d still like to see some lineups with him at the 4.

I don’t know how much tougher Sarr will get but I expect him to get bigger and stronger.

Sengun, JJJ, and KAT are three of the best offensive bigs in the NBA…they crush everybody and not just Sarr.



Sengun averages 19 with a TS of 54%. He can't shoot but it didn't matter against Sarr. He dropped 27/17 on us shooting 12/19. He took Sarr to the rim routinely.

Sarr was 19 yrs old playing in his 9th NBA game when the Zards played Sengun & Houston.



What happened to 'Sengun crushing everbody not just Sarr'?

You think it will be different when we play Houston Tuesday? I don't. There is a reason they put a backup SF on Kat. Sarr is soft.

Carrington is younger than Sarr but i don't see the Wizards hiding him from tough matchups. Last season the team routinely put Bilal on the best offensive player on the other team. They put him on Luka even though Luka is much bigger.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#283 » by doclinkin » Mon Jan 6, 2025 4:51 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I really hope we land on Flagg. Watching Kuzma last night, I realized this team has literally played this season without a PF. Trade Kuzma for future draft assets, and bring in Flagg would be a seamless move that transforms the Wizards to one of the young up and coming exciting teams of the future.


Right. When it comes to Flagg or even Harper I worry less about what position we draft for and more about competitiveness.

You draft Flagg and play him in the Deni spot: 2-4. He’s the ideal upgrade from Kuzma because he plays a similar role (face up high usage forward) except he makes the smart play every time at both ends.

If he takes minutes from Sarr, or George or Bilal, boo hoo. Sarr will have to earn them back in the weight room. George needs to find an outside shot. Bilal needs muscle as well. So does Flagg frankly. His mismatch is in will to win not athleticism.

But a good coach can devise a scheme with Flagg, Bilal, Sarr on defense preventing penetration and 2nd line rebounding from Bub. The lanky crew forces a miss, the tall guard darts into the gaps to snatch the bounce and initiate the break. Your bigs already have a head start on the outlet.

Yeah I want a Godzilla center still coming off the bench at the least. A few nights a year and the playoffs you want a matchup monster on the interior. Or a rebounding junkyard dog. But those guys are still undervalued in the draft and the FA market.

You get Flagg because every empty minute of game play and every box score negative that Kuz delivers would flip to +’s and W’s if you had a guy who could lead by smart play more than swagger. Consistency and focus. Again Flagg plays like the 4th/5th year Deni. As a teenager. And a more aggressive version. Not benchable, not shy to attack. No telling where that tops out, but he’s got a head start.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#284 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 6, 2025 5:00 pm

I would agree that Sarr, and everyone else for that matter, is irrelevant in regards to who we draft.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#285 » by pcbothwel » Mon Jan 6, 2025 5:03 pm

doclinkin wrote:Yeah I want a Godzilla center still coming off the bench at the least. A few nights a year sad the playoffs you want a matchup monster on the interior. Or a rebounding junkyard dog. But those guys are still undervalued in the draft and the FA market.


Agreed. Sarr's position is irrelevant, it's about complimentary skill sets. Tweeners like Daron Holmes or Johni Broom that dont have the skill set/foot speed to be a 4 and lack the size/length to be a 5 are always available...and a great fit with Sarr.

While having Sarr at the 5 requires a legit backup 'Godzilla' Center on the roster, it also provides so much versatility.
"Big" Centers (will) want no part of Sarr, because when he finally settles into his frame, he will simply be too fast/rangy and spread the floor too much for these Centers to keep up.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#286 » by DCZards » Mon Jan 6, 2025 8:10 pm

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doclinkin wrote:While having Sarr at the 5 requires a legit backup 'Godzilla' Center on the roster, it also provides so much versatility.
"Big" Centers (will) want no part of Sarr, because when he finally settles into his frame, he will simply be too fast/rangy and spread the floor too much for these Centers to keep up.

Yup….matchups work both ways. Just as Sarr might struggle against the bigger, stronger Cs, those same slow-footed bigs will have trouble guarding an athletic, quick center with 3 pt range like Sarr.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#287 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 6, 2025 8:21 pm

Who is the guy that everyone used as an upside comp for Sarr? Mobely, who is the starting 4 on the team with the best record in the league. They have a bigger guy at C for a reason.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#288 » by AFM » Mon Jan 6, 2025 8:25 pm

Not me. He looks more like a mix between Kevin Garnett (in his prime) and Jokic (in his prime).
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#289 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 6, 2025 8:32 pm

AFM wrote:Not me. He looks more like a mix between Kevin Garnett (in his prime) and Jokic (in his prime).



What happened to your Amare comp? Is he not enough of a legend to be a comp for Sarr?
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#290 » by 9 and 20 » Mon Jan 6, 2025 8:51 pm

I see more 90's Shaq in Sarr, tbh.

He started off the season ridiculously soft, but he's shown a lot more moxie as the season has gone on. Pretty happy with his development so far.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#291 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 6, 2025 9:57 pm

Hoop intellect is starting to crank out the vids.




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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#292 » by tontoz » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:01 am

Rutgers playing on fs1.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#293 » by Benjammin » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:26 am

It looks like we won't get a good look at Harper tonight. He's recovering from the flu. We'll see if Bailey can step up, except he has two fouls with nine minutes to go in the first half.

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#294 » by tontoz » Tue Jan 7, 2025 12:56 am

Benjammin wrote:It looks like we won't get a good look at Harper tonight. He's recovering from the flu. We'll see if Bailey can step up, except he has two fouls with nine minutes to go in the first half.

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Harper is a top 2 lock at this point along with Flagg. It is everyone else that has to prove themselves.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#295 » by tontoz » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:42 am

Got some Luka vibes watching these highlights.


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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#296 » by doclinkin » Tue Jan 7, 2025 1:49 am

My first look at the kid. He’s fun. Crafty.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#297 » by tontoz » Tue Jan 7, 2025 2:03 am

Benjammin wrote:We'll see if Bailey can step up, except he has two fouls with nine minutes to go in the first half.

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Ugh that was rough :(
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#298 » by Benjammin » Tue Jan 7, 2025 2:40 am

I agree Harper is top 2, but I'd still like to see him play and do well. Rutgers as a team is difficult to watch and Bailey had a stinker of a game.

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#299 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 7, 2025 4:01 am

Bailey fouled out with 9 points and 7 rebounds after having 39 and 8 last game.

Harper was scoreless in 15 minutes after having a triple double his last game.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#300 » by pcbothwel » Tue Jan 7, 2025 5:36 pm

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Benjammin wrote:We'll see if Bailey can step up, except he has two fouls with nine minutes to go in the first half.

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Ugh that was rough :(


Simply doesnt have it. Overrated athleticism, poor IQ/Vision, inconsistent shooting, cant create, and doesnt draw fouls. Maybe it all clicks and he turns into Brandon Miller or Jabari Smith... but I just dont value him that high.

Flagg/Harper/Jakucionis are the ONLY guys worth a top 3 pick. Otherwise, I would trade down and draft whatever left out of Traore, Tre Johnson, Fears, or Ace (Would be worth the gamble outside of 5...I Guess).
Sleeper would be Fears. He's young and has the attitude, skillset and spatial awareness to be a poor mans Lillard/Maxey

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