The Washington Football Team Thread

[gambitx777]

Like it's hard, Because you wouldn't want to gut a championship caliber D to get a QB if you won't be able to stop a cold. Plus they are gonna ask or demand chace young. They have to watson isn't giving them a choice but to ask for the moon. Miami and the Jets can both offer a young QB and a boat load of firsts that we just don't have. Don't bother chasing after watson right now. If you wanna offer a first and change for rodgers cool. But Watson is out of our reach and we shouldn't waste time chasing a dandy buck when there are other deer to shoot at. I personally think trubisky would be an interesting pick up if we don't get Rodgers, or sign Cam extra cheep. Mitch Turbisky could still come along and he's still only 26. I think he deserves another chance IMO.

These reports of two firsts, two seconds, two defensive starters for Watson.

No way. Get the F out of here. No way. No way. No way.

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[Ruzious]

Like it's hard, Because you wouldn't want to gut a championship caliber D to get a QB if you won't be able to stop a cold. Plus they are gonna ask or demand chace young. They have to watson isn't giving them a choice but to ask for the moon. Miami and the Jets can both offer a young QB and a boat load of firsts that we just don't have. Don't bother chasing after watson right now. If you wanna offer a first and change for rodgers cool. But Watson is out of our reach and we shouldn't waste time chasing a dandy buck when there are other deer to shoot at. I personally think trubisky would be an interesting pick up if we don't get Rodgers, or sign Cam extra cheep. Mitch Turbisky could still come along and he's still only 26. I think he deserves another chance IMO.

These reports of two firsts, two seconds, two defensive starters for Watson.

No way. Get the F out of here. No way. No way. No way.

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I'm not a Trabisky guy. I like his mobility, but he's too inaccurate and isn't good going downfield even with a good arm.

I like the idea of drafting a developmental QB in the 3rd round. If Kellen Mond is still there, he'd be someone I'd seriously consider. He's got a strong arm with a quick release, good escapability, needs to work on his consistency and add some bulk. Jamie Newman is another - I'm actually leaning towards him over Mond.

[LyricalRico]

Derek Carr, anyone? I'm sure the Raiders would like to win now, and Gruden strikes me as a guy who might pull a Ditka and give up whatever it takes to get somebody like a Deshaun Watson or Aaron Rodgers. As far as I know, Carr's contract isn't onerous (although he might want an extension) and he's a proven starter in his prime.

[Ruzious]

Derek Carr, anyone? I'm sure the Raiders would like to win now, and Gruden strikes me as a guy who might pull a Ditka and give up whatever it takes to get somebody like a Deshaun Watson or Aaron Rodgers. As far as I know, Carr's contract isn't onerous (although he might want an extension) and he's a proven starter in his prime.

He's good and dependable (has always played at least 15 games a season), but I would not trade 2 1sts for him - which is supposedly what Vegas is looking for. It says they don't believe in him - that they're looking to upgrade from him to get Watson.

[gambitx777]

I understand that 100% but I would rather get Turbisky for peanuts or trade a ham sandwich for and a 7th rounder or something for Minshew, than pay firsts for guys like stafford and carr. We can bring back hinike for sure and sign a younger free agent or get a young guy from a team taking a QB in the first round and move on maybe get a rookie late to develop from a small school and if you still have smith roll with 4 QB because covid.

Like it's hard, Because you wouldn't want to gut a championship caliber D to get a QB if you won't be able to stop a cold. Plus they are gonna ask or demand chace young. They have to watson isn't giving them a choice but to ask for the moon. Miami and the Jets can both offer a young QB and a boat load of firsts that we just don't have. Don't bother chasing after watson right now. If you wanna offer a first and change for rodgers cool. But Watson is out of our reach and we shouldn't waste time chasing a dandy buck when there are other deer to shoot at. I personally think trubisky would be an interesting pick up if we don't get Rodgers, or sign Cam extra cheep. Mitch Turbisky could still come along and he's still only 26. I think he deserves another chance IMO.

These reports of two firsts, two seconds, two defensive starters for Watson.

No way. Get the F out of here. No way. No way. No way.

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I'm not a Trabisky guy. I like his mobility, but he's too inaccurate and isn't good going downfield even with a good arm.

I like the idea of drafting a developmental QB in the 3rd round. If Kellen Mond is still there, he'd be someone I'd seriously consider. He's got a strong arm with a quick release, good escapability, needs to work on his consistency and add some bulk. Jamie Newman is another - I'm actually leaning towards him over Mond.

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[LyricalRico]

I understand that 100% but I would rather get Turbisky for peanuts or trade a ham sandwich for and a 7th rounder or something for Minshew, than pay firsts for guys like stafford and carr. We can bring back hinike for sure and sign a younger free agent or get a young guy from a team taking a QB in the first round and move on maybe get a rookie late to develop from a small school and if you still have smith roll with 4 QB because covid.

Given how the Stafford deal set the market, you could be right that Carr is out of our price range. I'd still see what could be done though, I actually like him better than Stafford in a vacuum. A first, a third, and Allen is probably as far as I'd go.

And I forgot about Minshew, he'd be intriguing as a cheap Plan B to compete with Allen and Heinike. Keep the best two, trade the third at the end of preseason to a team that needs a backup. Smith stays on as a mentor and stop-gap starter if needed, and Montez keeps working with the practice squad.

[Dat2U]

The guy I want, even moreso than Watson who I think will just cost too much capital is Zach Wilson. That kid has "it". I definitely do not want to see assets burned on a retread like Carr.

[TGW]

Zach Wilson is Brett Favre reincarnated. We would have to sell the farm to move up for him.

I've read rumors that the FO wants to move up for Fields, but I don't think they'll be able to move up that high up. I think we go into the season with Heineke, Allen, and maybe Brissett.

[Ruzious]

Jeebus, Wilson averaged 11 yards per attempt last year. I think Watson led the NFL with 8.7. And 33 TD's vs 3 ints. But should we worry about the Johnny Manzel comps?

[TGW]

Jeebus, Wilson averaged 11 yards per attempt last year. I think Watson led the NFL with 8.7. And 33 TD's vs 3 ints. But should we worry about the Johnny Manzel comps?

I think that's a terrible comparison. Manziell barely went through progressions and executed a play how it was designed. His go to move was allowing plays to break down, scrambling like an idiot, and throwing off the run.

Zach Wilson is the opposite. He didn't run unless it was by design or he saw an opening. An unlike Manziell, he is very comfortable in the pocket.

Manziell was a running quarterback. Wilson is a quarterback that can run. Two different types of players. Also, Manziell was too small to play in the NFL. Wilson is 6'3, 210. He's got prototypical size for an NFL QB.

[gambitx777]

I understand that 100% but I would rather get Turbisky for peanuts or trade a ham sandwich for and a 7th rounder or something for Minshew, than pay firsts for guys like stafford and carr. We can bring back hinike for sure and sign a younger free agent or get a young guy from a team taking a QB in the first round and move on maybe get a rookie late to develop from a small school and if you still have smith roll with 4 QB because covid.

Given how the Stafford deal set the market, you could be right that Carr is out of our price range. I'd still see what could be done though, I actually like him better than Stafford in a vacuum. A first, a third, and Allen is probably as far as I'd go.

And I forgot about Minshew, he'd be intriguing as a cheap Plan B to compete with Allen and Heinike. Keep the best two, trade the third at the end of preseason to a team that needs a backup. Smith stays on as a mentor and stop-gap starter if needed, and Montez keeps working with the practice squad.

I would be happy trading nothing of value for Gardner Minshew and/or signing turbisky, we have Allen of we resign him and I think hinikie deserves a deal, let those 4 young bucks fight it out. I think Alex smith should retire and maybe be given a spot on the staff and his full salary, in my opinion.

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[Ruzious]

I understand that 100% but I would rather get Turbisky for peanuts or trade a ham sandwich for and a 7th rounder or something for Minshew, than pay firsts for guys like stafford and carr. We can bring back hinike for sure and sign a younger free agent or get a young guy from a team taking a QB in the first round and move on maybe get a rookie late to develop from a small school and if you still have smith roll with 4 QB because covid.

Given how the Stafford deal set the market, you could be right that Carr is out of our price range. I'd still see what could be done though, I actually like him better than Stafford in a vacuum. A first, a third, and Allen is probably as far as I'd go.

And I forgot about Minshew, he'd be intriguing as a cheap Plan B to compete with Allen and Heinike. Keep the best two, trade the third at the end of preseason to a team that needs a backup. Smith stays on as a mentor and stop-gap starter if needed, and Montez keeps working with the practice squad.

Allen is worth a 2021 1st round pick. To give him up and a 1st and a 3rd is far too much for Carr - who isn't as good as Stafford, imo.

[gambitx777]

I wouldn't say Kyle allen is worth a first lol but I certainly wouldn't give anywhere near a first for carr I think we should go young. There are options out there and honestly Kyle allen deserves a shot not his fault he got hurt. Tyler hinikie played great ball too! So what's let. I really think kicking the tires on Minshew is a good idea and if we don't at least call turbisky I'll be sad. Can you imagine a QB comption with those 4 guys ! Nice young core of QB .

I understand that 100% but I would rather get Turbisky for peanuts or trade a ham sandwich for and a 7th rounder or something for Minshew, than pay firsts for guys like stafford and carr. We can bring back hinike for sure and sign a younger free agent or get a young guy from a team taking a QB in the first round and move on maybe get a rookie late to develop from a small school and if you still have smith roll with 4 QB because covid.

Given how the Stafford deal set the market, you could be right that Carr is out of our price range. I'd still see what could be done though, I actually like him better than Stafford in a vacuum. A first, a third, and Allen is probably as far as I'd go.

And I forgot about Minshew, he'd be intriguing as a cheap Plan B to compete with Allen and Heinike. Keep the best two, trade the third at the end of preseason to a team that needs a backup. Smith stays on as a mentor and stop-gap starter if needed, and Montez keeps working with the practice squad.

Allen is worth a 2021 1st round pick. To give him up and a 1st and a 3rd is far too much for Carr - who isn't as good as Stafford, imo.

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[Ruzious]

I wouldn't say Kyle allen is worth a first lol but I certainly wouldn't give anywhere near a first for carr I think we should go young. There are options out there and honestly Kyle allen deserves a shot not his fault he got hurt. Tyler hinikie played great ball too! So what's let. I really think kicking the tires on Minshew is a good idea and if we don't at least call turbisky I'll be sad. Can you imagine a QB comption with those 4 guys ! Nice young core of QB .

Given how the Stafford deal set the market, you could be right that Carr is out of our price range. I'd still see what could be done though, I actually like him better than Stafford in a vacuum. A first, a third, and Allen is probably as far as I'd go.

And I forgot about Minshew, he'd be intriguing as a cheap Plan B to compete with Allen and Heinike. Keep the best two, trade the third at the end of preseason to a team that needs a backup. Smith stays on as a mentor and stop-gap starter if needed, and Montez keeps working with the practice squad.

Allen is worth a 2021 1st round pick. To give him up and a 1st and a 3rd is far too much for Carr - who isn't as good as Stafford, imo.

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Agreed on Kyle - I meant Jonathan Allen is worth a 1st. I think Kyle's a fine backup QB. It's almost impossible to have 4 guys competing for the starting spot, because there's no way to practice 4 QB's with the starting offense and defense. Maybe I'm nuts, but if Taylor can gain some weight, I'd like to see him get a chance. He doesn't have the tools you look for, but the guy processes what to do at a level other QB's can't. That's a special quality. He's also accurate and exceptionally mobile. I just hope he can stay healthy - hence the need to gain some strength.

[gambitx777]

Yeah but with covid if you can afford to carry that many QB do it lol like at least for now it makes sense. I get what you mean though.

I wouldn't say Kyle allen is worth a first lol but I certainly wouldn't give anywhere near a first for carr I think we should go young. There are options out there and honestly Kyle allen deserves a shot not his fault he got hurt. Tyler hinikie played great ball too! So what's let. I really think kicking the tires on Minshew is a good idea and if we don't at least call turbisky I'll be sad. Can you imagine a QB comption with those 4 guys ! Nice young core of QB .

Allen is worth a 2021 1st round pick. To give him up and a 1st and a 3rd is far too much for Carr - who isn't as good as Stafford, imo.

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Agreed on Kyle - I meant Jonathan Allen is worth a 1st. I think Kyle's a fine backup QB. It's almost impossible to have 4 guys competing for the starting spot, because there's no way to practice 4 QB's with the starting offense and defense. Maybe I'm nuts, but if Taylor can gain some weight, I'd like to see him get a chance. He doesn't have the tools you look for, but the guy processes what to do at a level other QB's can't. That's a special quality. He's also accurate and exceptionally mobile. I just hope he can stay healthy - hence the need to gain some strength.

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[Benjammin]

I don't know about the cap implications but I'd like to see Alex Smith as a coach. It's a great story but I wouldn't count on him to be a solution.

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[doclinkin]

The WFT relative success against this mauling defense of Tampa Bay does speak well for keeping Heinicke in some capacity. Maybe he earns a starting job in training camp. You never know. Yeah KC has a wounded offensive line, but Washington has pretty much always had a jerryrigged offensive front, Hogs excepted.

[Dat2U]

Jeebus, Wilson averaged 11 yards per attempt last year. I think Watson led the NFL with 8.7. And 33 TD's vs 3 ints. But should we worry about the Johnny Manzel comps?

Bigger. Arm is electric. Accuracy on the run is pinpoint. Work ethic is not comparable. I feel confident saying Wilson will be a star. Would not shock me if he turns out even better than Trevor Lawrence.

I'd give up 3 1sts for him.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Jeebus, Wilson averaged 11 yards per attempt last year. I think Watson led the NFL with 8.7. And 33 TD's vs 3 ints. But should we worry about the Johnny Manzel comps?

Bigger. Arm is electric. Accuracy on the run is pinpoint. Work ethic is not comparable. I feel confident saying Wilson will be a star. Would not shock me if he turns out even better than Trevor Lawrence.

I'd give up 3 1sts for him.

Wow. That’s high praise. He’s really that good?

I’d give up three firsts for Lawrence in a second - generational talent imo.