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Post#401 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:14 am

Team lost against Milwaukee with Gil's man, the great Ramon Sessions, hitting an open perimeter shot.
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Post#402 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:16 am

My last comment not only speaks to Gil's defense, but also to the Wizard's philosophy of going small and collapsing inside while leaving the perimeter open.

I think Mason's a better defender than Gilbert or AD, FWIW.
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Post#403 » by MF23 » Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:28 am

Just got back. When I saw him come out I was like called it. When he came through the tunnel my brother was like he's got to make an entrance and I said he really likes attention. Brendan has to hang on to the ball and c'mon AD wake up. Still had a fun at the game.
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Post#404 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:49 am

WizStorm wrote:The defense was pretty poor against the Lakers and Jazz ... defense hasn't been great for quite some time. Of course, Gil just practicing must be the real culprit for that.


We really haven't played any consistent d since the Pistons game. It really looks like the effort is slipping overall.

Gil actually looked like he was trying to play defense tonight and on a few possessions, he did ok... but, that last possession showed his proclivity to ball watch.

I still don't really know why he was in there on the final possession. I believe Jordan subbed him out for defensive purposes with 15 secs left only to reinsert him with 1.1.
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Post#405 » by gowiz999 » Thu Apr 3, 2008 3:50 am

Sadly, the Wiz haven't played defense in months. Don't blame it on Gilbert.
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Post#406 » by MJG » Thu Apr 3, 2008 12:33 pm

gowiz999 wrote:Sadly, the Wiz haven't played defense in months. Don't blame it on Gilbert.

Agreed - it's been a good while since I remember actually being slightly impressed with how we were playing defense. I'll admit that Arenas isn't very likely to help in that regard, but I doubt he hurts us much either.
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Post#407 » by fishercob » Thu Apr 3, 2008 12:42 pm

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Agreed - it's been a good while since I remember actually being slightly impressed with how we were playing defense. I'll admit that Arenas isn't very likely to help in that regard, but I doubt he hurts us much either.


They haven't played consistently good D, but put together good efforts against Orlando and Detroit. It just seems like they don't get up for every game, which is basically immaturity.
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Post#408 » by jimij » Thu Apr 3, 2008 1:39 pm

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I still don't really know why he was in there on the final possession. I believe Jordan subbed him out for defensive purposes with 15 secs left only to reinsert him with 1.1.


He only came back in because Stevenson got hurt. I'd have rather of seen Mason or Young in there, but let's face it, all of our guards other than DS live in no man's land on D and Sessions would proabably have been open against all of them.

I'm still more upset with Daniels not racing to retrieve the ball that AJ threw down the court.
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Post#409 » by ZonkertheBrainless » Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:45 pm

From the post:

"An agonizing loss does not define the season, but how the Wizards managed to give back a 10-point lead late in the fourth quarter -- moments after Arenas had checked in with five minutes left -- has got to damage the psyche."

Hmmmm... I wonder if there's a connection...
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Post#410 » by Da HomeTeam » Thu Apr 3, 2008 5:47 pm

ZonkertheBrainless wrote:From the post:

"An agonizing loss does not define the season, but how the Wizards managed to give back a 10-point lead late in the fourth quarter -- moments after Arenas had checked in with five minutes left -- has got to damage the psyche."

Hmmmm... I wonder if there's a connection...


IIRC they had stopped scoring before he had actually checked in. We had like 86 points going INTO the 4th. They hit a long dry spell at the wrong time. They didn't play defense the ENTIRE game excpet for a few possessions.

They're defensive philosophy all season has been for guards to scrape down and help when the ball goes in the paint and then get back to their man. They had been doing it all night (and all year) but the Bucks weren't hitting shots. I don't really think u can blame Gil entirely for that.

The offense got stagnant at a bad time and their risky defensive strategy failed them again. If they would have of displayed the same urgency during the whole game that they showed in the last minute of the game they would've easily won. But they seemed more concerned about getting their "flow" back, and forgot about the hustle.

They were out there playing like it was practice. Everything was real easy and real casual. I don't know what it was but I felt like something was missing the entire game. Like everyone was nervous cuz Gil was back. Like when you have a substitute teacher...and then your real teachers come back. Even during the halftime interview Caron seemed unsettled.

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Post#411 » by BigA » Thu Apr 3, 2008 7:02 pm

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They were out there playing like it was practice. Everything was real easy and real casual. I don't know what it was but I felt like something was missing the entire game. Like everyone was nervous cuz Gil was back. Like when you have a substitute teacher...and then your real teachers come back. Even during the halftime interview Caron seemed unsettled.

We got 7 games to get on track.


The crowd was unsettled. The response to Arenas coming out was much more subdued than I would have expected.
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Post#412 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Thu Apr 3, 2008 9:51 pm

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The crowd was unsettled. The response to Arenas coming out was much more subdued than I would have expected.


Could that have been because of the nonsensical, juvenile way they did it? I made this point in another thread, but I'll say it again here... Arenas' fake Walt Frazier entrance seemed only to fire up the Bucks... and confuse everyone else.
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Post#413 » by fishercob » Thu Apr 3, 2008 11:46 pm

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Could that have been because of the nonsensical, juvenile way they did it? I made this point in another thread, but I'll say it again here... Arenas' fake Walt Frazier entrance seemed only to fire up the Bucks... and confuse everyone else.


Do you mean Willis Reed? Is it possible that since Gil was coming off the bench he wanted to get warm in the locker room/gym before getting on to the court?
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Post#414 » by Donkey McDonkerton » Fri Apr 4, 2008 12:30 am

People try to break everything down way too much. EJ said he didnt know gil was playing until he walked out of the locker room...yeah right. He just happen to come out w/out his warm up on and go right in?

MJ use to ride the bike in the tunnel... but then again he was an EPIC FAIL!
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Post#415 » by hands11 » Fri Apr 4, 2008 4:55 am

MF23 wrote:Just got back. When I saw him come out I was like called it. When he came through the tunnel my brother was like he's got to make an entrance and I said he really likes attention. Brendan has to hang on to the ball and c'mon AD wake up. Still had a fun at the game.


I'm so sick of the Gilbertology crap. Just be a pro and play ball.
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Post#416 » by hands11 » Fri Apr 4, 2008 4:56 am

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They haven't played consistently good D, but put together good efforts against Orlando and Detroit. It just seems like they don't get up for every game, which is basically immaturity.


They played good D when they were all healthy.
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Post#417 » by hands11 » Fri Apr 4, 2008 4:57 am

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He only came back in because Stevenson got hurt. I'd have rather of seen Mason or Young in there, but let's face it, all of our guards other than DS live in no man's land on D and Sessions would proabably have been open against all of them.

I'm still more upset with Daniels not racing to retrieve the ball that AJ threw down the court.


And what about a long armed AB on the in bound?
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Post#418 » by Donkey McDonkerton » Fri Apr 4, 2008 5:03 am

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Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld said he did not think the way Arenas handled his return was disrespectful to the coaching staff.

"Gilbert was medically cleared to play, it was a game-time decision and he was going to play when he felt ready," Grunfeld said. "Maybe there was a miscommunication, but he talked with the trainer and then he stayed in the back to warm up before coming out to play."

With the Arenas-induced drama of Wednesday and a disappointing loss to the lottery-bound Bucks behind them, the Wizards must now focus on finishing the regular season as strong as possible.

"He made his grand entrance and he had his time," center Brendan Haywood said. "Now it's time to get back to business."

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Post#419 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Apr 4, 2008 4:09 pm

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Do you mean Willis Reed? Is it possible that since Gil was coming off the bench he wanted to get warm in the locker room/gym before getting on to the court?


Yes, Willis Reed. Duh, brain fart on my part. My bad. LSBF is gettin long in the tooth and short in the memory department.

After reading some of the explanations of the entrance in the Post this morning (Eddie J. didn't know it was happening?), I stand by my assertion that this is another example of a less-than-well-oiled machine.
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Post#420 » by Kanyewest » Fri Apr 4, 2008 4:21 pm

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I'm so sick of the Gilbertology crap. Just be a pro and play ball.


Gilbertology or not; he played well. I don't know what you are complaining about. If you don't care for Gilbertology, then don't read anything about the Wizards and and just watch the game.

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