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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#541 » by tontoz » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:18 pm

dobrojim wrote:Weird thing is, if I read the box right he was only +10. +/-



He was in the game at the end when they blew a 12 pt lead thanks to the Russ iso show.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#542 » by nate33 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:56 pm

I came across this Fred Katz column that he actually penned 2 weeks ago. Here's the key part:

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I made this observation is a game thread a few games back. Bertans ALWAYS misses short. Just throw it one inch further!
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#543 » by NatP4 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:30 pm

Meaning, he’s not suddenly become a bad shooter, he still just doesn’t have his legs under him. The covid stoppage probably really set him back again.

Shot 28% from 3 in December(5 games) to start season after joining training camp late. Then he got hot and proceeded to shoot 21-51 (41%) in the final 6 games before the covid outbreak. In the first 3 games after the covid outbreak, he shot an awful 6-30 (20%). Since that point(last 10 games), he has shot 34-74 (46%).

He’s basically been himself outside of the first 5 games of the season, and the first 3 games after the covid stoppage.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#544 » by nate33 » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:11 pm

After a horrific start, Bertans is slowly bringing his season averages up to career norms. He has been outstanding ever since recovering from Covid.

Last year, he shot 42.4% from 3-point range on 10.7 attempts per 36 with a TS% of .628.

So far this season, he is shooting 38.4% from 3-point range on 10.7 attempts per 36, with a TS% .598.

Over the last 16 games, he is shooting 45.5% from 3, on 9.7 attempts per 36, with a TS% of .695. :o
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#545 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:41 pm

nate33 wrote:After a horrific start, Bertans is slowly bringing his season averages up to career norms. He has been outstanding ever since recovering from Covid.

Last year, he shot 42.4% from 3-point range on 10.7 attempts per 36 with a TS% of .628.

So far this season, he is shooting 38.4% from 3-point range on 10.7 attempts per 36, with a TS% .598.

Over the last 16 games, he is shooting 45.5% from 3, on 9.7 attempts per 36, with a TS% of .695. :o

And there's no doubt, he makes a huge difference spacing the defense - and making life easier on both Beal and Westbrook.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#546 » by jangles86 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:45 am

Bertans has been massively disappointing.

Shooting 38% after going for 42% last year. He is not rebounding not really playing much defence.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#547 » by nate33 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:06 pm

jangles86 wrote:Bertans has been massively disappointing.

Shooting 38% after going for 42% last year. He is not rebounding not really playing much defence.

Bertans had conditioning issues due to Covid at the start of the season (at first because he was stuck in quarantine and couldn't workout, and then because he got Covid and couldn't workout). In his first 12 games, he shot just .337 from 3. Since the Covid hiatus, Bertans has been fine, with no real difference from last season.

In the last 21 games, he is averaging 15.7 points per 36, shooting .420 from 3 on 10 attempts per 36. His rebounding is a bit worse but some of that is the Westbrook Effect. I don't think his defense looks any worse than last year.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#548 » by gambitx777 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:01 pm

And from all report that covid stuff can linger so he just needed to work it out of his system.
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jangles86 wrote:Bertans has been massively disappointing.

Shooting 38% after going for 42% last year. He is not rebounding not really playing much defence.

Bertans had conditioning issues due to Covid at the start of the season (at first because he was stuck in quarantine and couldn't workout, and then because he got Covid and couldn't workout). In his first 12 games, he shot just .337 from 3. Since the Covid hiatus, Bertans has been fine, with no real difference from last season.

In the last 21 games, he is averaging 15.7 points per 36, shooting .420 from 3 on 10 attempts per 36. His rebounding is a bit worse but some of that is the Westbrook Effect. I don't think his defense looks any worse than last year.


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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#549 » by jangles86 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:43 am

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These are his point tallies in his last 6 games.
He is 13/35 37% from 3 in the last six games.

He’s pulled down 15 rebounds (2.5rpg) in his last six games. So he isn’t hitting the boards at all. He is under 1 assist a game. So literally has no offence outside of shooting the rock.

He’s played 34 out the possible 39 games for the wizards this season. So I wouldn’t say he hasn’t been available to play much.

What is the go? Have we been fooled by the contract year output again?

Yes I understand the covid symptoms can linger in ways we don’t understand. But he’s either fit enough to play or he needs to rest and get too 100%.

Because right now he is no where near being the laser we watched last season, and at $16 Million per year for the next 5 seasons after this.... this is starting to look very ugly.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#550 » by FAH1223 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:46 am

jangles86 wrote:11
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These are his point tallies in his last 6 games.
He is 13/35 37% from 3 in the last six games.

He’s pulled down 15 rebounds (2.5rpg) in his last six games. So he isn’t hitting the boards at all. He is under 1 assist a game. So literally has no offence outside of shooting the rock.

He’s played 34 out the possible 39 games for the wizards this season. So I wouldn’t say he hasn’t been available to play much.

What is the go? Have we been fooled by the contract year output again?

Yes I understand the covid symptoms can linger in ways we don’t understand. But he’s either fit enough to play or he needs to rest and get too 100%.

Because right now he is no where near being the laser we watched last season, and at $16 Million per year for the next 5 seasons after this.... this is starting to look very ugly.


He has 4 years left after this one. 3 FULLY guaranteed.

Remember, the last year is partial guarantee... only $5M
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#551 » by gambitx777 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:53 am

That why I trade him now why he still has value off the excuses.

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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#552 » by jangles86 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:02 am

FAH1223 wrote:
jangles86 wrote:11
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These are his point tallies in his last 6 games.
He is 13/35 37% from 3 in the last six games.

He’s pulled down 15 rebounds (2.5rpg) in his last six games. So he isn’t hitting the boards at all. He is under 1 assist a game. So literally has no offence outside of shooting the rock.

He’s played 34 out the possible 39 games for the wizards this season. So I wouldn’t say he hasn’t been available to play much.

What is the go? Have we been fooled by the contract year output again?

Yes I understand the covid symptoms can linger in ways we don’t understand. But he’s either fit enough to play or he needs to rest and get too 100%.

Because right now he is no where near being the laser we watched last season, and at $16 Million per year for the next 5 seasons after this.... this is starting to look very ugly.


He has 4 years left after this one. 3 FULLY guaranteed.

Remember, the last year is partial guarantee... only $5M

Ok fair enough. Thanks for pointing that out.

I think my point is that this season is very quickly becoming a wasted season for Davis.

Yes confidence plays a huge part. But we are just watching a season go down the drain, and another season of Bradley Beals prime being wasted.

Davis is a massive part of this team. He is our bench spark, he is the teams best shooter. But watching him this season compared to last season, every time he shot the ball I was nearly certain it was going in. He just looked like a beast and I was truely starting to compare him to some of the best shooters I’ve seen. But now that just feels so far off the mark it’s embarrassing.

I truely hope we can get Davis to return to his best sooner rather then later, because if this team is to have any hope of becoming a playoff team for next season we need him to be firing.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#553 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:20 pm

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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#554 » by nate33 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:05 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
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So much for the idea of trading him.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#555 » by gambitx777 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:47 am

It's just a strain , and he's still tradable but that + his slow start, might be too much of a discount to make it palatable. You would probably have to settle for a second or two and nothing much of use coming back.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#556 » by closg00 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:06 am

Was it Ernie that whispered "give him a 5-year deal"?
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Post#557 » by TGW » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:49 pm

pcbothwel wrote:
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:roll:
Bertans signed for 5 years, while Saric for 3.


:roll:

Delusional homer statement.


Delusional? I think you may be overrating Klay, but I digress.
You just compared Bertans to Saric, One is a net positive on the court... the other a negative, but sure, Saric was a bit cheaper.
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Bertans is better than Bojan, Bogdan, Morris, Jeremi Grant, Beasley, Barnes, Randle, Rozier, etc... all players that are getting about the same or more than Bertans.
What is the complaint?

And to circle back to Klay:
https://stathead.com/tiny/2bxSv
Bertans vs Klay... Both age 27.

Sorry, but Im not seeing it. Klay is one of the more overrated players of this generation. Playing with Steph & KD, Im not impressed.
Bertans is more efficient, draws more fouls, and rebounds more while playing with trash in comparison to that GSW team.


Some of the posts in this thread did not age well.
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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Re: Report: Bertans resigns 5 years, 80 million 

Post#558 » by pcbothwel » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:35 pm

TGW wrote:
pcbothwel wrote:
TGW wrote: :roll:

Delusional homer statement.


Delusional? I think you may be overrating Klay, but I digress.
You just compared Bertans to Saric, One is a net positive on the court... the other a negative, but sure, Saric was a bit cheaper.
#sowizards

Bertans is better than Bojan, Bogdan, Morris, Jeremi Grant, Beasley, Barnes, Randle, Rozier, etc... all players that are getting about the same or more than Bertans.
What is the complaint?

And to circle back to Klay:
https://stathead.com/tiny/2bxSv
Bertans vs Klay... Both age 27.

Sorry, but Im not seeing it. Klay is one of the more overrated players of this generation. Playing with Steph & KD, Im not impressed.
Bertans is more efficient, draws more fouls, and rebounds more while playing with trash in comparison to that GSW team.


Some of the posts in this thread did not age well.


Ugghhh... Ok. Explain.

Bertans is a better player than Saric. Nothing has changed. And Klay has still not stepped foot in two NBA seasons while making 70M!!!
Klay will be 32 next AS game and was already a limited player even in his Prime.

You're good poster with good insight. Pulling the "This post didnt age well" card is bit tacky and is usually reserved for a more pronounced and inarguable stance. If you couldnt post this earlier in the week when Bertans was in the midst of shooting 50% from 3 over his previous 12 games, then you probably shouldn't post it now just because Bertans strained his calf.

Do we want to pull you post about how Russ being your least favorite Wiz ever? Over Maynor? How's that stance working out?
Or the numerous times you talked about Bertans being "a steal" if he's playing like last year and "You dont trade that guy". But now he's out for 2 weeks and upside down?
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#559 » by Eli Babak » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:50 pm

closg00 wrote:Was it Ernie that whispered "give him a 5-year deal"?


There were talks about how Bertans is Wiz' number 1 priority in FA and of course they panicked and offered him a big contract to make sure he stays here. He's my least favorite Wizard atm and should've been traded a year ago for that late 1st. Well, anyway, I hope he recovers and finishes the season strong so he could be traded during/after the draft.
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Re: Davis Bertans "the Latvian Laser" 

Post#560 » by tontoz » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:07 pm

Bertans' TS is up to 62% after that dismal start.

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