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Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#961 » by nuposse04 » Wed Oct 9, 2013 3:59 pm

closg00 wrote:Billy King has an owner that will spend some money, but give him credit for finding players to fill-out the roster and add depth.

*Signing Blatche on the cheap
*Nabbing 41st pick PG Tyshawn Taylor from Portland (we draft Sato, then spent $$ to get Maynor)
*Drafting Miles Plumlee for added front court depth


taylor is trash and Plumlee is 23, he's going to be alright early on. Blatche cheap is the only nice move there.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#962 » by dangermouse » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:48 pm

Thunder waived Daniel Orton

is he worth a look?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#963 » by closg00 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:41 am

dangermouse wrote:Thunder waived Daniel Orton

is he worth a look?


I would bring him in as a practice dummy and check him out. Probably not-much hope for him, but why-not take a look.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#964 » by LyricalRico » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:11 pm

Agreed, nothing to lose by bringing Orton in.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#965 » by closg00 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:17 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Agreed, nothing to lose by bringing Orton in.


His D-League numbers
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/d ... stats.html
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#966 » by verbal8 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:43 pm

closg00 wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:Agreed, nothing to lose by bringing Orton in.


His D-League numbers
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/d ... stats.html


It couldn't hurt to take a look. D-League last year seems to be the first time since high school, that he got regular playing time. Interestingly his FT% was respectable vs. being in the fifties in college and NBA play. He does seem to have a problem with excessive fouling.

I guess this might mean that Steven Adams looks ready ready to play in the NBA.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#967 » by payitforward » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:17 pm

dangermouse wrote:Thunder waived Daniel Orton

is he worth a look?

We have a sufficiency of trash players. We don't need another one.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#968 » by closg00 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:25 pm

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dangermouse wrote:Thunder waived Daniel Orton

is he worth a look?

We have a sufficiency of trash players. We don't need another one.


I would consider exchanging the Singleton trash for 1-year of Orton trash or 1-year of Aldrich. Nene WILL go-down at some point this year. Knowing how Grunfeld "manages", he'll do nothing until Nene goes-down, then he'll give Jason Collins or whoever else might be around a call.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#969 » by hands11 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:44 pm

dangermouse wrote:Thunder waived Daniel Orton

is he worth a look?


One of my not so good prediction was thinking Orton would be a UTR player coming out of college who would have a functional career in the NBA. I some how pictured him at 26 or 27 landing on a time that was in the playoff making a different off the bench.

Maybe he still get there, but its not looking good.

The name interests me but I haven't really kept up with him to know why he isn't making progress. What is the major problem with him ?

Other team injuries. Man, they really seem to be stacking up.
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Post#970 » by Klomp » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:14 am

Can you guys give me a scouting report on Othyus Jeffers? I know its been a couple years since you had him, but you're really the most NBA experience he's had.

He's in serious consideration to make the Timberwolves 15-man roster on an unguaranteed deal, so I'd really appreciate anything you can tell me.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#971 » by closg00 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:09 am

Klomp wrote:Can you guys give me a scouting report on Othyus Jeffers? I know its been a couple years since you had him, but you're really the most NBA experience he's had.

He's in serious consideration to make the Timberwolves 15-man roster on an unguaranteed deal, so I'd really appreciate anything you can tell me.


I was going to post about this actually, I was surprised to see that OJ appears to be getting a serious look by Minny based upon his pre-season minutes. I liked OJ's grit and hard work when he was with us briefly, I am rooting for him.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#972 » by dangermouse » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:27 am

Finally got my league pass renewed.

Watching Orlando v Cleveland right now. Dipo looks good, better than i imagined he would. I think he will be a future star for Orlando. Nice pick by them.

Dion Waiters looks really good too.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#973 » by Ruzious » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:08 pm

Klomp wrote:Can you guys give me a scouting report on Othyus Jeffers? I know its been a couple years since you had him, but you're really the most NBA experience he's had.

He's in serious consideration to make the Timberwolves 15-man roster on an unguaranteed deal, so I'd really appreciate anything you can tell me.

If he's 100% recovered from the injury he had - which cost him a shot last season, he can help an NBA team. Of course, his game was based on physical explosiveness, so if he's lost a half step, that really hurts. He's not a shooter. He's an "energy player". He was an excellent wing defender, very aggressive and strong, goes to the boards very hard for a wing player. Just don't expect much on offense - he might as well be a 6'5 PF. But do you need a ball-handler at the wings when you have Rubio dominating the ball?

As for Orton, it makes no sense to bring him in now. Maybe a month ago you could make a case. He needs to be taught how to play, and there's not enough time to teach him. A guy like Aldrich wouldn't need as much time, so if the Knicks cut him tomorrow - sure, take him.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#974 » by payitforward » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:12 pm

closg00 wrote:
Klomp wrote:Can you guys give me a scouting report on Othyus Jeffers? I know its been a couple years since you had him, but you're really the most NBA experience he's had.

He's in serious consideration to make the Timberwolves 15-man roster on an unguaranteed deal, so I'd really appreciate anything you can tell me.


I was going to post about this actually, I was surprised to see that OJ appears to be getting a serious look by Minny based upon his pre-season minutes. I liked OJ's grit and hard work when he was with us briefly, I am rooting for him.

Agreed. I think Jeffers can play. Some guys have to work really hard to get their shot.

He only played 300+ minutes for us, but he played extremely well. He's strong, has soft hands, doesn't turn it over, and shoots a little bit.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#975 » by hands11 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:27 am

Injuries keep piling up.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... dex-Finger


So Denver is going to try to go more traditional this year with McGee in the post playing an inside out offense. This is his big chance to shine. If he is going to do it, this is it.

Going into his 6th year. Age 25. 7-0 250. Been through some controversy. 2nd team. Has he matured enough to put his freak talent to good use ?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#976 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:18 am

Hands, I'm still wondering how our boy Jeff Withey lasted till the 40th pick. He had a modest 6 point 6 rebound stat line tonight - but did it in 10 minutes of play. New Orleans is building an interesting team.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#977 » by TGW » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:38 pm

Ruzious wrote:Hands, I'm still wondering how our boy Jeff Withey lasted till the 40th pick. He had a modest 6 point 6 rebound stat line tonight - but did it in 10 minutes of play. New Orleans is building an interesting team.


Physcially, he's built like a school girl, that's why. He doesn't pass the eye test. That doesn't mean he won't be somewhat effective, but he went where he should have.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#978 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:26 pm

hands11 wrote:Injuries keep piling up.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... dex-Finger


So Denver is going to try to go more traditional this year with McGee in the post playing an inside out offense. This is his big chance to shine. If he is going to do it, this is it.

Going into his 6th year. Age 25. 7-0 250. Been through some controversy. 2nd team. Has he matured enough to put his freak talent to good use ?


McGee will put up career numbers. I am not confident his stats will lead to positive contributions for Denver. I expect McGee can lead the league in blocks, and he might average a double double.

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#979 » by hands11 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:02 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Hands, I'm still wondering how our boy Jeff Withey lasted till the 40th pick. He had a modest 6 point 6 rebound stat line tonight - but did it in 10 minutes of play. New Orleans is building an interesting team.


Physcially, he's built like a school girl, that's why. He doesn't pass the eye test. That doesn't mean he won't be somewhat effective, but he went where he should have.


There were a lot of centers in this draft. Not saying there was a Pat Ewing but they all did something well.

Withey was a shot blocker, X Volleyball player

Then you have players like Plumee, Iverson, Dieng, and Muscala (PF/C)

That along with Len, Noel, Adams ( all high picks )

Like years ago when the league was thin on PG, I think the league is reloading with centers now. They don't have to be All Stars to be effective, specially for a later pick. First they need to protect the paint, alter shots, and rebound. Until the Wizards find a way to address this, I think there will be a lot of unsettled fans.

Okafor helps for now, but he is currently injured. If we have Okafor and Otto healthy I think most would be feeling better about this season.

Ves and Kevin can develop and get better, but neither has the Okafor grit mind set. I remember having draft combinations that had us targeting several of these players in different draft strategies that changed over time as they players moved up and down the draft. I felt this was a good draft to reload with if they were able to clean house from some previous non establish draft picks. I actually wanted them to even add a pick. Put that would have meant it was just another reloading year and next year would more the target for the

In 3 years, when we look back, I think we will see a lot of players that are contributing from this draft.

Even an Iverson 7-0 260 is a decent athlete, could have helped some and could have been had with the 53 pick.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#980 » by TGW » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:56 pm

You're right Hands...this was a good draft for picking quality centers. We could have really used one...even Withey, whose shotblocking would have come in handy.

I wanted Dieng personally.
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