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Post#1 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 4, 2016 10:56 pm

This is Tommy's 2nd or 3rd GM interview, this is great for Ernie.
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Post#2 » by FAH1223 » Thu Feb 4, 2016 10:58 pm

Tommy Sheppard would be a better GM than Ernie.

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Post#3 » by queridiculo » Thu Feb 4, 2016 11:01 pm

Congrats, on landing the worst gig in the league. I suspect that by the time this organization has managed to rid itself of the stench of Billy Kings tenure it'll be somebody else reaping the benefits.


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Post#4 » by nuposse04 » Thu Feb 4, 2016 11:16 pm

He should take EG with him, or rather we can package EG in a box and send him with, yes?
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Post#5 » by keynote » Thu Feb 4, 2016 11:36 pm

I don't want anyone currently employed in the FO to be our next GM. But can we get the Nets to offer up a 2nd rounder in exchange? ;-)
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Post#6 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Feb 5, 2016 1:19 pm

The good news for Nets fans is that, because Brooklyn has traded away all of their draft picks, Sheppard - a Grunfield disciple- won't be in a position to draft more busts.
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Post#7 » by Dark Faze » Fri Feb 5, 2016 4:12 pm

ted wil find a way to promote the assistants assistant if Ernie is ever allowed to "mutually part ways".
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Post#8 » by TheSecretWeapon » Fri Feb 5, 2016 4:18 pm

I like Tommy, as does literally everyone. Really good guy. I hope he gets the job and does well. I think Brooklyn is as good a job as any around the league. The owner has deep pockets and is willing to spend. The key is to spend smart, and not engage in Billy Knight-esque dumbassery.

All that said, I don't know how good he'll actually be. He was part of the internal "coalition" that talked Grunfeld out of going full MLE on Nick Young. He helped talk Grunfeld into limiting the first deal with Deshawn Stevenson to a "show me" contract. But, he was also part of front office's that drafted Jan Vesely and Nikoloz Tskitishvili. He pushed for Songaila. He thought trading that 5th pick for Miller and Foye was a good idea.
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Post#9 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 5, 2016 4:46 pm

TheSecretWeapon wrote:I like Tommy, as does literally everyone. Really good guy. I hope he gets the job and does well. I think Brooklyn is as good a job as any around the league. The owner has deep pockets and is willing to spend. The key is to spend smart, and not engage in Billy Knight-esque dumbassery.

All that said, I don't know how good he'll actually be. He was part of the internal "coalition" that talked Grunfeld out of going full MLE on Nick Young. He helped talk Grunfeld into limiting the first deal with Deshawn Stevenson to a "show me" contract. But, he was also part of front office's that drafted Jan Vesely and Nikoloz Tskitishvili. He pushed for Songaila. He thought trading that 5th pick for Miller and Foye was a good idea.

Was limiting Stevenson's deal a good idea at the time? I thought that DS was an underrated player and would have done better with the Wiz if he hadn't been overworked when his knees were swollen.

Btw, should that be Skita or Singleton?
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Post#10 » by closg00 » Fri Feb 5, 2016 4:50 pm

Anyone who was part of "unanimous" decision to draft Vesely should never be hired or promoted.
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Post#11 » by TheSecretWeapon » Fri Feb 5, 2016 4:54 pm

Ruzious wrote:
TheSecretWeapon wrote:I like Tommy, as does literally everyone. Really good guy. I hope he gets the job and does well. I think Brooklyn is as good a job as any around the league. The owner has deep pockets and is willing to spend. The key is to spend smart, and not engage in Billy Knight-esque dumbassery.

All that said, I don't know how good he'll actually be. He was part of the internal "coalition" that talked Grunfeld out of going full MLE on Nick Young. He helped talk Grunfeld into limiting the first deal with Deshawn Stevenson to a "show me" contract. But, he was also part of front office's that drafted Jan Vesely and Nikoloz Tskitishvili. He pushed for Songaila. He thought trading that 5th pick for Miller and Foye was a good idea.

Was limiting Stevenson's deal a good idea at the time? I thought that DS was an underrated player and would have done better with the Wiz if he hadn't been overworked when his knees were swollen.

Btw, should that be Skita or Singleton?

The first deal with Stevenson was the show-me deal. It was good for both parties. His first year with the Wiz, they got 2400 minutes of roughly average play from him for the league minimum. He'd never played that well before. He did it again the following season after signing the Official Ernie Grunfeld "You Showed Me, Now I Pay You" contract (similar to the one Martell Webster got), except a little better. Then he got hurt and his production went off a cliff. (I swear, I'm writing about Stevenson, not Webster.) Had a bit of resurgence for that Mavericks team that won the title, but the best he ever played was in Washington.

I meant Skita. Tommy was part of the Nuggets front office that drafted Skita. So yeah, he was part of front offices that made what are arguably two of the ten worst high draft picks ever.
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Post#12 » by keynote » Fri Feb 5, 2016 5:57 pm

closg00 wrote:Anyone who was part of "unanimous" decision to draft Vesely should never be hired or promoted.


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Post#13 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 5, 2016 6:30 pm

TheSecretWeapon wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
TheSecretWeapon wrote:I like Tommy, as does literally everyone. Really good guy. I hope he gets the job and does well. I think Brooklyn is as good a job as any around the league. The owner has deep pockets and is willing to spend. The key is to spend smart, and not engage in Billy Knight-esque dumbassery.

All that said, I don't know how good he'll actually be. He was part of the internal "coalition" that talked Grunfeld out of going full MLE on Nick Young. He helped talk Grunfeld into limiting the first deal with Deshawn Stevenson to a "show me" contract. But, he was also part of front office's that drafted Jan Vesely and Nikoloz Tskitishvili. He pushed for Songaila. He thought trading that 5th pick for Miller and Foye was a good idea.

Was limiting Stevenson's deal a good idea at the time? I thought that DS was an underrated player and would have done better with the Wiz if he hadn't been overworked when his knees were swollen.

Btw, should that be Skita or Singleton?

The first deal with Stevenson was the show-me deal. It was good for both parties. His first year with the Wiz, they got 2400 minutes of roughly average play from him for the league minimum. He'd never played that well before. He did it again the following season after signing the Official Ernie Grunfeld "You Showed Me, Now I Pay You" contract (similar to the one Martell Webster got), except a little better. Then he got hurt and his production went off a cliff. (I swear, I'm writing about Stevenson, not Webster.) Had a bit of resurgence for that Mavericks team that won the title, but the best he ever played was in Washington.

I meant Skita. Tommy was part of the Nuggets front office that drafted Skita. So yeah, he was part of front offices that made what are arguably two of the ten worst high draft picks ever.

It does seem like every good thing EG and crew did turned out negatively - such as signing DS to that first contract ending up in him signing a bad contract.

That is brutal that Sheppard was involved with both Skita and Vesely. I hope he gets a GM job in the East. :)
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Post#14 » by Dark Faze » Fri Feb 5, 2016 6:46 pm

makes sense

brooklyn is a god awful job to take
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Post#15 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:15 pm

So according to the Tap, Tommy is out of the running. Do you think the interview ended when they asked "Unanimous on Vesely? please explain"
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Post#16 » by AFM » Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:38 pm

No, it was explain why you chose eric maynor over anyone from the Bethesda YMCA rec league
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Post#17 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:51 pm

AFM wrote:No, it was explain why you chose eric maynor over anyone from the Bethesda YMCA rec league


So-much to chose from. If you're the Nets, you have to ask Tommy about our drafting/FA decision process.
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Post#18 » by FAH1223 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:31 pm

Sean Marks from the Spurs is a much better choice than Tommy Sheppard. Good job, Nets.

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Post#19 » by closg00 » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:53 pm

FAH1223 wrote:Sean Marks from the Spurs is a much better choice than Tommy Sheppard. Good job, Nets.

If only we had a rich Russian owner.


Funny, the Spurs are a de facto farm system for other teams coaches and FO.
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