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Mock is based off the following:
- Current draft order
- Team's needs
- Team's history of drafting (Including International)
1. Cleveland Cavaliers - PF Jared Sullinger - Ohio State
2. Sacramento Kings - C Jonas Valanciunas - Lietuvos Rytas
3. Minnesota T'Wolves - PG Kyrie Irving - Duke
4. New Jersey Nets - PF Perry Jones - Baylor
5. Washington Wizards - F Terrence Jones - Kentucky
6. Toronto Raptors - G Kemba Walker - Connecticut
7. Detroit Pistons - C Enes Kanter - Kentucky
8. LA Clippers - SG/SF Harrison Barnes - North Carolina
9. Indiana Pacers - G Jimmer Fredette - Brigham Young
10. Milwaukee Bucks - PF Derrick Williams - Arizona
11. Golden State Warriors - SF Jordan Hamilton - Texas
12. Phoenix Suns - F Jan Vesely - Partizan
13. Houston Rockets - C Donatas Motiejunas - Bennetton Basket
14. Memphis Grizzlies - G Brandon Knight - Kentucky
15. Charlotte Bobcats - PF John Henson - North Carolina
16. Philadelphia 76ers - SG Alec Burks - Colorado
17. Portland Trailblazers - F Bojan Bogdanovic - Cibona
18. New York Knicks - F Kris Joseph - Syracuse
19. Denver Nuggets - PF Marcus Morris - Kansas
20. New Orleans Hornets - G Josh Selby - Kansas
21. Orlando Magic - F Chris Singleton - Florida State
22. Atlanta Hawks - PF Trey Thompkins - Georgia
23. Dallas Mavericks - F Jeff Taylor - Vanderbilt
24. Oklahoma City Thunder - C Lucas Nogueira - Estudiantes
25. Utah Jazz - F Nikola Mirotic - Real Madrid
26. Chicago Bulls - G Demetri McCamey - Illinois
27. Miami Heat - PF/C JaJuan Johnson - Purdue
28. LA Lakers - F Kawhi Leonard - San Diego State
29. Boston Celtics - F Kyle Singler - Duke
30. San Antonio Spurs - F Milan Macvan - Maccabi
- Current draft order
- Team's needs
- Team's history of drafting (Including International)
1. Cleveland Cavaliers - PF Jared Sullinger - Ohio State
2. Sacramento Kings - C Jonas Valanciunas - Lietuvos Rytas
3. Minnesota T'Wolves - PG Kyrie Irving - Duke
4. New Jersey Nets - PF Perry Jones - Baylor
5. Washington Wizards - F Terrence Jones - Kentucky
6. Toronto Raptors - G Kemba Walker - Connecticut
7. Detroit Pistons - C Enes Kanter - Kentucky
8. LA Clippers - SG/SF Harrison Barnes - North Carolina
9. Indiana Pacers - G Jimmer Fredette - Brigham Young
10. Milwaukee Bucks - PF Derrick Williams - Arizona
11. Golden State Warriors - SF Jordan Hamilton - Texas
12. Phoenix Suns - F Jan Vesely - Partizan
13. Houston Rockets - C Donatas Motiejunas - Bennetton Basket
14. Memphis Grizzlies - G Brandon Knight - Kentucky
15. Charlotte Bobcats - PF John Henson - North Carolina
16. Philadelphia 76ers - SG Alec Burks - Colorado
17. Portland Trailblazers - F Bojan Bogdanovic - Cibona
18. New York Knicks - F Kris Joseph - Syracuse
19. Denver Nuggets - PF Marcus Morris - Kansas
20. New Orleans Hornets - G Josh Selby - Kansas
21. Orlando Magic - F Chris Singleton - Florida State
22. Atlanta Hawks - PF Trey Thompkins - Georgia
23. Dallas Mavericks - F Jeff Taylor - Vanderbilt
24. Oklahoma City Thunder - C Lucas Nogueira - Estudiantes
25. Utah Jazz - F Nikola Mirotic - Real Madrid
26. Chicago Bulls - G Demetri McCamey - Illinois
27. Miami Heat - PF/C JaJuan Johnson - Purdue
28. LA Lakers - F Kawhi Leonard - San Diego State
29. Boston Celtics - F Kyle Singler - Duke
30. San Antonio Spurs - F Milan Macvan - Maccabi
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Looks plausible to me, Cleveland drafts another hometown guy who is much less likely to bolt...Bogdanavic is a good Euro prospect, possible the best outside of Valancianus and Kanter, so I would put him higher. But, I don't think he declares...

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babyjax13 wrote:Bogdanavic is a good Euro prospect, possible the best outside of Valancianus and Kanter, so I would put him higher. But, I don't think he declares...
Cibona, the team Bogdanovic plays for, is having financial issues. There's talk that there won't be a team next season. He could transfer to another team. But given how well he played in EL, he would be stupid not to declare.
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I figured I go ahead and finish the mock draft.
Second Round
31. Cleveland Cavaliers - SG/SF David Lighty - Ohio State
32. Sacramento Kings - G Nolan Smith - Duke
33. Minnesota T'Wolves - F Tomislav Zubcic - Cibona
34. New Jersey Nets - SG/SF Klay Thompson - Washington State
35. Washington Wizards - F C.J. Leslie - North Carolina State
36. Toronto Raptors - PF/C Leon Radosevic - Cibona
37. Detroit Pistons - PF Kenneth Faried - Morehead State
38. LA Clippers - PF Tobias Harris - Tennessee
39. Indiana Pacers - PF Markieff Morris - Kansas
40. Milwaukee Bucks - SG E'Twaun Moore - Purdue
41. Golden State Warriors - PF/C Keith Benson - Oakland
42. Phoenix Suns - SG/SF Travis Leslie - Georgia
43. Houston Rockets - PF Jakub Wojciechowski - Benneton Basket
44. Memphis Grizzlies - SG/SF Scotty Hopson - Tennessee
45. Charlotte Bobcats - PF/C Rick Jackson - Syracuse
46. Philadelphia 76ers - C Aaric Murray - La Salle
47. Portland Trailblazers - SG/SF Xabi Rabaseda - Fuenlabrada
48. New York Knicks - PF/C Jon Leuer - Wisconsin
49. Denver Nuggets - PG Iman Shumpert - Georgia Tech
50. New Orleans Hornets - PF Renardo Sidney - Mississippi State
51. Orlando Magic - C Dejan Musli - Caja Laboral
52. Atlanta Hawks - SG Nihad Djedovic - Lottomatica
53. Dallas Mavericks - PF Justin Harper - Richmond
54. Oklahoma City Thunder - F Augusto Lima - Unicaja
55. Utah Jazz - SF Kostas Papanikolaou - Olympiacos
56. Chicago Bulls - F Elias Harris - Gonzaga
57. Miami Heat - PG Tyshawn Taylor - Kansas
58. LA Lakers - PF Mamadou Samb - Cornella
59. Boston Celtics - PG Kalin Lucas - Michigan State
60. San Antonio Spurs - PF/C Bangaly Fofana - ASVEL Basket
Second Round
31. Cleveland Cavaliers - SG/SF David Lighty - Ohio State
32. Sacramento Kings - G Nolan Smith - Duke
33. Minnesota T'Wolves - F Tomislav Zubcic - Cibona
34. New Jersey Nets - SG/SF Klay Thompson - Washington State
35. Washington Wizards - F C.J. Leslie - North Carolina State
36. Toronto Raptors - PF/C Leon Radosevic - Cibona
37. Detroit Pistons - PF Kenneth Faried - Morehead State
38. LA Clippers - PF Tobias Harris - Tennessee
39. Indiana Pacers - PF Markieff Morris - Kansas
40. Milwaukee Bucks - SG E'Twaun Moore - Purdue
41. Golden State Warriors - PF/C Keith Benson - Oakland
42. Phoenix Suns - SG/SF Travis Leslie - Georgia
43. Houston Rockets - PF Jakub Wojciechowski - Benneton Basket
44. Memphis Grizzlies - SG/SF Scotty Hopson - Tennessee
45. Charlotte Bobcats - PF/C Rick Jackson - Syracuse
46. Philadelphia 76ers - C Aaric Murray - La Salle
47. Portland Trailblazers - SG/SF Xabi Rabaseda - Fuenlabrada
48. New York Knicks - PF/C Jon Leuer - Wisconsin
49. Denver Nuggets - PG Iman Shumpert - Georgia Tech
50. New Orleans Hornets - PF Renardo Sidney - Mississippi State
51. Orlando Magic - C Dejan Musli - Caja Laboral
52. Atlanta Hawks - SG Nihad Djedovic - Lottomatica
53. Dallas Mavericks - PF Justin Harper - Richmond
54. Oklahoma City Thunder - F Augusto Lima - Unicaja
55. Utah Jazz - SF Kostas Papanikolaou - Olympiacos
56. Chicago Bulls - F Elias Harris - Gonzaga
57. Miami Heat - PG Tyshawn Taylor - Kansas
58. LA Lakers - PF Mamadou Samb - Cornella
59. Boston Celtics - PG Kalin Lucas - Michigan State
60. San Antonio Spurs - PF/C Bangaly Fofana - ASVEL Basket
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brassviews wrote:Mock is based off the following:
- Current draft order
- Team's needs
- Team's history of drafting (Including International)
25. Utah Jazz - F Nikola Mirotic - Real Madrid
Minnesota owns this pick if it is 17 or higher I beleive.
"That's why the last two years weren't guaranteed," Walsh said. "Either way, he knew it could have happened either way."
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1. Cleveland Cavaliers - C Jonas Valanciunas - Lietuvos Rytas
I had Sullinger as my #1 pick. However, after thinking about the Lebron debacle, I doubt Cleveland takes another homegrown talent. Cleveland may try another route for rebuilding their franchise. This route could be international.
2. Minnesota T'Wolves - PF Perry Jones - Baylor
- If Rubio decides to come over, Jones should complement his game.
3. Sacramento Kings - PF Jared Sullinger - Ohio State
- He's the most NBA ready of any player in draft.
4. Toronto Raptors - G Kyrie Irving - Duke
- The Raptors lack a viable point guard. Irving makes sense depth wise for Toronto.
5. Washington Wizards - F Terrence Jones - Kentucky
- This pick is about familiarity of system. Jones is playing for Calipari, and Wall has played for Calipari. GM's tend to draft players who've played for the same coach.
6. New Jersey Nets - G Kemba Walker - Connecticut
- Devin Harris will likely get traded, either by the deadline or in the summer. The Nets will need a piece in the backcourt going forward. Walker looks like the only worthwhile guard at this juncture.
7. Detroit Pistons - PF Derrick Williams - Arizona
- I doubt Prince or Villanueva will be in Detroit next season. Look for Detroit to fill the void by either with a forward.
8. LA Clippers - SG/SF Harrison Barnes - North Carolina
- I think Clippers will use this pick to get a point guard. For the time being, I'll put Barnes at this spot.
9. Milwaukee Bucks - G Jimmer Fredette - Brigham Young
- This team is lacking a scoring threat. Fredette is a bit of risk, but teams often take risks in the lottery.
10. Charlotte Bobcats - PF John Henson - North Carolina
- This is a pretty easy decision for Jordan and Charlotte. Just draft a Tarheel.
11. Golden State Warriors - SF Jordan Hamilton - Texas
- Hamilton would flourish in the run and gun system. He would likely struggle in an organized offensive scheme.
12. Houston Rockets - C Donatas Motiejunas - Bennetton Basket
- The Rockets desperately need a center. This is even more of the case with Yao likely retiring or leaving via FA.
13. Indiana Pacers - SG Alec Burks - Colorado
- With Fredette off the board, Pacers will look at another scoring guard like Burks.
14. Philadelphia 76ers - PF Tristan Thompson - Texas
- The Sixers could take a chance on an up-and-coming prospect like Thompson.
15. Phoenix Suns - F Jan Vesely - Partizan
16. New York Knicks - C Enes Kanter - Kentucky
17. Memphis Grizzlies - G Brandon Knight - Kentucky
18. Portland Trailblazers - PF/C JaJuan Johnson - Purdue
19. Utah Jazz - G Nolan Smith - Duke
20. Denver Nuggets - PF Marcus Morris - Kansas
21. New Orleans Hornets - F Kawhi Leonard - San Diego State
22. Atlanta Hawks - SG/SF Bojan Bogdanovic - Cibona
23. Orlando Magic - PF Markieff Morris - Kansas
24. Oklahoma City Thunder - C Lucas Nogueira - Estudiantes
25. Chicago Bulls - G Demetri McCamey - Illinois
26. LA Lakers - G Josh Selby - Kansas
27. Dallas Mavericks - SF Jeff Taylor - Vanderbilt
28. Miami Heat - PF Trey Thompkins - Georgia
29. Boston Celtics - F Kyle Singler - Duke
30. San Antonio Spurs - F Nikola Mirotic - Real Madrid
I had Sullinger as my #1 pick. However, after thinking about the Lebron debacle, I doubt Cleveland takes another homegrown talent. Cleveland may try another route for rebuilding their franchise. This route could be international.
2. Minnesota T'Wolves - PF Perry Jones - Baylor
- If Rubio decides to come over, Jones should complement his game.
3. Sacramento Kings - PF Jared Sullinger - Ohio State
- He's the most NBA ready of any player in draft.
4. Toronto Raptors - G Kyrie Irving - Duke
- The Raptors lack a viable point guard. Irving makes sense depth wise for Toronto.
5. Washington Wizards - F Terrence Jones - Kentucky
- This pick is about familiarity of system. Jones is playing for Calipari, and Wall has played for Calipari. GM's tend to draft players who've played for the same coach.
6. New Jersey Nets - G Kemba Walker - Connecticut
- Devin Harris will likely get traded, either by the deadline or in the summer. The Nets will need a piece in the backcourt going forward. Walker looks like the only worthwhile guard at this juncture.
7. Detroit Pistons - PF Derrick Williams - Arizona
- I doubt Prince or Villanueva will be in Detroit next season. Look for Detroit to fill the void by either with a forward.
8. LA Clippers - SG/SF Harrison Barnes - North Carolina
- I think Clippers will use this pick to get a point guard. For the time being, I'll put Barnes at this spot.
9. Milwaukee Bucks - G Jimmer Fredette - Brigham Young
- This team is lacking a scoring threat. Fredette is a bit of risk, but teams often take risks in the lottery.
10. Charlotte Bobcats - PF John Henson - North Carolina
- This is a pretty easy decision for Jordan and Charlotte. Just draft a Tarheel.
11. Golden State Warriors - SF Jordan Hamilton - Texas
- Hamilton would flourish in the run and gun system. He would likely struggle in an organized offensive scheme.
12. Houston Rockets - C Donatas Motiejunas - Bennetton Basket
- The Rockets desperately need a center. This is even more of the case with Yao likely retiring or leaving via FA.
13. Indiana Pacers - SG Alec Burks - Colorado
- With Fredette off the board, Pacers will look at another scoring guard like Burks.
14. Philadelphia 76ers - PF Tristan Thompson - Texas
- The Sixers could take a chance on an up-and-coming prospect like Thompson.
15. Phoenix Suns - F Jan Vesely - Partizan
16. New York Knicks - C Enes Kanter - Kentucky
17. Memphis Grizzlies - G Brandon Knight - Kentucky
18. Portland Trailblazers - PF/C JaJuan Johnson - Purdue
19. Utah Jazz - G Nolan Smith - Duke
20. Denver Nuggets - PF Marcus Morris - Kansas
21. New Orleans Hornets - F Kawhi Leonard - San Diego State
22. Atlanta Hawks - SG/SF Bojan Bogdanovic - Cibona
23. Orlando Magic - PF Markieff Morris - Kansas
24. Oklahoma City Thunder - C Lucas Nogueira - Estudiantes
25. Chicago Bulls - G Demetri McCamey - Illinois
26. LA Lakers - G Josh Selby - Kansas
27. Dallas Mavericks - SF Jeff Taylor - Vanderbilt
28. Miami Heat - PF Trey Thompkins - Georgia
29. Boston Celtics - F Kyle Singler - Duke
30. San Antonio Spurs - F Nikola Mirotic - Real Madrid
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31. Cleveland Cavaliers - SG/SF Klay Thompson - Washington State
32. Minnesota T'Wolves - F Augusto Lima - Unicaja
33. Sacramento Kings - SG/SF Scotty Hopson - Tennessee
34. Toronto Raptors - PF/C Leon Radosevic - Cibona
35. Washington Wizards - F C.J. Leslie - North Carolina State
36. New Jersey Nets - SG/SF David Lighty - Ohio State
37. Detroit Pistons - PF Kenneth Faried - Morehead State
38. LA Clippers - PF Tobias Harris - Tennessee
39. Milwaukee Bucks - SG E'Twaun Moore - Purdue
40. Charlotte Bobcats - PF/C Rick Jackson - Syracuse
41. Golden State Warriors - PF/C Keith Benson - Oakland
42. Houston Rockets - PF Jakub Wojciechowski - Benneton Basket
43. Indiana Pacers - SG/SF Travis Leslie - Georgia
44. Philadelphia 76ers - C Aaric Murray - La Salle
45. Phoenix Suns - F Tomislav Zubcic - Cibona
46. New York Knicks - F Kris Joseph - Syracuse
47. Memphis Grizzlies - SG/SF Xabi Rabaseda - Fuenlabrada
48. Portland Trailblazers - SG/SF Justin Holiday - Washington
49. Utah Jazz - F Milan Macvan - Maccabi
50. Denver Nuggets - PG Iman Shumpert - Georgia Tech
51. New Orleans Hornets - PF Renardo Sidney - Mississippi State
52. Atlanta Hawks - SG Nihad Djedovic - Lottomatica
53. Orlando Magic - C Dejan Musli - Caja Laboral
54. Oklahoma City Thunder - PF/C Mamadou Samb - Cornella
55. Chicago Bulls - F Elias Harris - Gonzaga
56. LA Lakers - PF/C Jon Leuer - Wisconsin
57. Dallas Mavericks - PF Justin Harper - Richmond
58. Miami Heat - PG Tyshawn Taylor - Kansas
59. Boston Celtics - PG Kalin Lucas - Michigan State
60. San Antonio Spurs - PF/C Bangaly Fofana - ASVEL Basket
31. Cleveland Cavaliers - SG/SF Klay Thompson - Washington State
32. Minnesota T'Wolves - F Augusto Lima - Unicaja
33. Sacramento Kings - SG/SF Scotty Hopson - Tennessee
34. Toronto Raptors - PF/C Leon Radosevic - Cibona
35. Washington Wizards - F C.J. Leslie - North Carolina State
36. New Jersey Nets - SG/SF David Lighty - Ohio State
37. Detroit Pistons - PF Kenneth Faried - Morehead State
38. LA Clippers - PF Tobias Harris - Tennessee
39. Milwaukee Bucks - SG E'Twaun Moore - Purdue
40. Charlotte Bobcats - PF/C Rick Jackson - Syracuse
41. Golden State Warriors - PF/C Keith Benson - Oakland
42. Houston Rockets - PF Jakub Wojciechowski - Benneton Basket
43. Indiana Pacers - SG/SF Travis Leslie - Georgia
44. Philadelphia 76ers - C Aaric Murray - La Salle
45. Phoenix Suns - F Tomislav Zubcic - Cibona
46. New York Knicks - F Kris Joseph - Syracuse
47. Memphis Grizzlies - SG/SF Xabi Rabaseda - Fuenlabrada
48. Portland Trailblazers - SG/SF Justin Holiday - Washington
49. Utah Jazz - F Milan Macvan - Maccabi
50. Denver Nuggets - PG Iman Shumpert - Georgia Tech
51. New Orleans Hornets - PF Renardo Sidney - Mississippi State
52. Atlanta Hawks - SG Nihad Djedovic - Lottomatica
53. Orlando Magic - C Dejan Musli - Caja Laboral
54. Oklahoma City Thunder - PF/C Mamadou Samb - Cornella
55. Chicago Bulls - F Elias Harris - Gonzaga
56. LA Lakers - PF/C Jon Leuer - Wisconsin
57. Dallas Mavericks - PF Justin Harper - Richmond
58. Miami Heat - PG Tyshawn Taylor - Kansas
59. Boston Celtics - PG Kalin Lucas - Michigan State
60. San Antonio Spurs - PF/C Bangaly Fofana - ASVEL Basket
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Honestly don't see Valanciunas being picked first overall, but would love the draft to go like this as a Raptors fan.
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I just don't see anyone but Irving and Jones going top 2. You can argue the order if you want, but those are clearly the top 2 prospects IMO.
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I think Cleveland is the only team that would take Valanciunas first overall. That's why I have Valanciunas where he's at. Personally, I think he's the best prospect. He's producing in limited time against pros, some of which could play in the NBA. But that's an entirely different issue altogether.
I still believe most teams will take Sullinger over Irving or Jones. He's just a safer pick at this point and time. Irving showed potential early in the season. However, that's not enough to warrant the first pick overall. Jones is a wait-and-see player.
I still believe most teams will take Sullinger over Irving or Jones. He's just a safer pick at this point and time. Irving showed potential early in the season. However, that's not enough to warrant the first pick overall. Jones is a wait-and-see player.
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brassviews wrote:2. Minnesota T'Wolves - PF Jared Sullinger - Ohio State
- He's the most NBA ready of any player in draft. Love, in 2008, was considered the most NBA ready by scouts. Look how that assessment is turning out.......
I thought your picks were supposed to be based on team needs? If so, this is a brutally terrible pick. Two fat, slow, defensively deficient 6'9" Power Forwards is not a recipe for success in the NBA. Irving would be the pick here. He's easily the better pick based on need (especially with the Rubio situation still in limbo), and he's definitely the BPA over Sullinger.

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AQuintus wrote:I thought your picks were supposed to be based on team needs? If so, this is a brutally terrible pick. Two fat, slow, defensively deficient 6'9" Power Forwards is not a recipe for success in the NBA.
Love can play and has played center. A Love and Sullinger frontcourt could very well happen.
AQuintus wrote:Irving would be the pick here. He's easily the better pick based on need (especially with the Rubio situation still in limbo), and he's definitely the BPA over Sullinger.
Irving does make sense. However, I think Sullinger is more coveted.
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brassviews wrote:Love can play and has played center.
He can but shouldn't. Especially not next to someone who can't cover his deficiencies (short, not very long, not very quick, poor on D).
A Love and Sullinger frontcourt could very well happen.
A Love/Sullinger frontcourt would be a lot like the Love/Jefferson frontcourt except smaller, slower, and maybe even worse on D.
Irving does make sense. However, I think Sullinger is more coveted.
I'm sure lots of scouts and executives like Sullinger quite a bit, but I'd be shocked to hear any say that they like him more than Irving (or even Perry Jones).

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brassviews wrote:AQuintus wrote:I thought your picks were supposed to be based on team needs? If so, this is a brutally terrible pick. Two fat, slow, defensively deficient 6'9" Power Forwards is not a recipe for success in the NBA.
Love can play and has played center. A Love and Sullinger frontcourt could very well happen.AQuintus wrote:Irving would be the pick here. He's easily the better pick based on need (especially with the Rubio situation still in limbo), and he's definitely the BPA over Sullinger.
Irving does make sense. However, I think Sullinger is more coveted.
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brassviews wrote:AQuintus wrote:I thought your picks were supposed to be based on team needs? If so, this is a brutally terrible pick. Two fat, slow, defensively deficient 6'9" Power Forwards is not a recipe for success in the NBA.
Love can play and has played center. A Love and Sullinger frontcourt could very well happen.
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If Kahn was willing to have an undersized, underathletic frontcourt I think Al Jefferson would still be in Minnesota.
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I'm still under the impression that Minnesota wants Rubio. If Minnesota takes Irving, Rubio isn't coming over. Since that's the case, I would disregard the first mock I've made.
Now, the dilemma comes down to Sullinger and Jones. Again, I think most teams will take Sullinger over Jones. He's more NBA ready. But then again, Minnesota might want someone athletic to complement Rubio.
Edit: I'll switch Sullinger and Jones.
Now, the dilemma comes down to Sullinger and Jones. Again, I think most teams will take Sullinger over Jones. He's more NBA ready. But then again, Minnesota might want someone athletic to complement Rubio.
Edit: I'll switch Sullinger and Jones.
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I think if Irving is available Minnesota will take him. That is unless Kahn gets a guarantee from Rubio himself that he is coming over to play. If Rubio is a ? then Wolves take Irving possibly trade Rubio for another pick. If Rubio tells Kahn he's playing then we could trade down for a team looking for a PG.
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Radical change to draft from last one
1. Cleveland Cavaliers - C Jonas Valanciunas - Lietuvos Rytas
- As long as Cleveland occupies the top spot, Valanciunas is my first pick.
2. Minnesota T'Wolves - PF Derrick Williams - Arizona
- He's playing too well right now, albeit he's playing in a weak conference.
3. Sacramento Kings - PG Kyrie Irving - Duke
- Concerns with Evans could lead to Irving to Sacramento.
4. Washington Wizards - PF Jared Sullinger - Ohio State
- I still consider Sullinger a top 3 pick. However, given the needs of other teams, he might slip to 4-5.
5. Toronto Raptors - PF Perry Jones - Baylor
- Baylor's potential exclusion from the NCAA tournament could do more harm than good for Jones. He could slip even further in the draft.
6. Utah Jazz - G Jimmer Fredette - Brigham Young
- Given Utah's track record, Fredette seems like the obvious choice. It doesn't hurt that he's a local talent either (more Jazz fans).
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - F Terrence Jones - Kentucky
- Jamison might be on the way out after this season. Jones becomes a necessity for Cleveland.
8. Detroit Pistons - F Jan Vesely - Partizan
- I did not have Vesely rank this high two weeks ago. However, scouts seem to be infatuated with him given recent reports. Nonetheless, he's step his game up tremendously as of late. He would be a nice replacement to Prince who Vesely mirrors as a player.
9. Milwaukee Bucks - SG Alec Burks - Colorado
- This team is in need of scoring. Until they get help in this department, they will suffer. Burks makes a lot of sense for them.
10. Charlotte Bobcats - SG/SF Harrison Barnes - North Carolina
- This is a tough choice as either Henson or Barnes could be taken. But with the recent G. Wallace trade, I feel compelled to go with Barnes.
11. Golden State Warriors - SF Jordan Hamilton - Texas
- Nothing has really changed much. Hamilton would be an ideal fit for this run and gun offense.
12. Indiana Pacers - G Kemba Walker - Connecticut
- He's the obvious choice with Fredette and Burks off the board.
13. Houston Rockets - PF/C JaJuan Johnson - Purdue
- Thabeet is not a mainstay if I'm not mistaken. Therefore, I see Houston taking a big man. The hybrid Johnson is a nice fit.
14. Philadelphia 76ers - PF John Henson - North Carolina
- I don't see Brand as a long term solution at PF, even though he's playing well right now. So I would expect Philly to draft another big man. Henson, at this point, is too good to pass up.
15. Phoenix Suns - F Kawhi Leonard - San Diego State
16. New York Knicks - C Enes Kanter - Kentucky
17. Utah Jazz - PF/C Donatas Motiejunas - Bennetton Basket
18. Memphis Grizzlies - PF Marcus Morris - Kansas
19. Portland Trailblazers - PF/C Keith Benson - Oakland
20. Denver Nuggets - C Lucas Nogueira - Estudiantes
21. Charlotte Bobcats - PF Tristan Thompson - Texas
22. Washington Wizards - SG/SF Bojan Bogdanovic - Cibona
23. Oklahoma City Thunder - F Augusto Lima - Unicaja
24. Phoenix Suns - G Nolan Smith - Duke
25. New Jersey Nets - PF Markieff Morris - Kansas
26. Chicago Bulls - G Brandon Knight - Kentucky
27. Dallas Mavericks - SF Jeff Taylor - Vanderbilt
28. Chicago Bulls - PF Trey Thompkins - Georgia
29. Boston Celtics - SG/SF Klay Thompson - Washington State
30. San Antonio Spurs - F Nikola Mirotic - Real Madrid
1. Cleveland Cavaliers - C Jonas Valanciunas - Lietuvos Rytas
- As long as Cleveland occupies the top spot, Valanciunas is my first pick.
2. Minnesota T'Wolves - PF Derrick Williams - Arizona
- He's playing too well right now, albeit he's playing in a weak conference.
3. Sacramento Kings - PG Kyrie Irving - Duke
- Concerns with Evans could lead to Irving to Sacramento.
4. Washington Wizards - PF Jared Sullinger - Ohio State
- I still consider Sullinger a top 3 pick. However, given the needs of other teams, he might slip to 4-5.
5. Toronto Raptors - PF Perry Jones - Baylor
- Baylor's potential exclusion from the NCAA tournament could do more harm than good for Jones. He could slip even further in the draft.
6. Utah Jazz - G Jimmer Fredette - Brigham Young
- Given Utah's track record, Fredette seems like the obvious choice. It doesn't hurt that he's a local talent either (more Jazz fans).
7. Cleveland Cavaliers - F Terrence Jones - Kentucky
- Jamison might be on the way out after this season. Jones becomes a necessity for Cleveland.
8. Detroit Pistons - F Jan Vesely - Partizan
- I did not have Vesely rank this high two weeks ago. However, scouts seem to be infatuated with him given recent reports. Nonetheless, he's step his game up tremendously as of late. He would be a nice replacement to Prince who Vesely mirrors as a player.
9. Milwaukee Bucks - SG Alec Burks - Colorado
- This team is in need of scoring. Until they get help in this department, they will suffer. Burks makes a lot of sense for them.
10. Charlotte Bobcats - SG/SF Harrison Barnes - North Carolina
- This is a tough choice as either Henson or Barnes could be taken. But with the recent G. Wallace trade, I feel compelled to go with Barnes.
11. Golden State Warriors - SF Jordan Hamilton - Texas
- Nothing has really changed much. Hamilton would be an ideal fit for this run and gun offense.
12. Indiana Pacers - G Kemba Walker - Connecticut
- He's the obvious choice with Fredette and Burks off the board.
13. Houston Rockets - PF/C JaJuan Johnson - Purdue
- Thabeet is not a mainstay if I'm not mistaken. Therefore, I see Houston taking a big man. The hybrid Johnson is a nice fit.
14. Philadelphia 76ers - PF John Henson - North Carolina
- I don't see Brand as a long term solution at PF, even though he's playing well right now. So I would expect Philly to draft another big man. Henson, at this point, is too good to pass up.
15. Phoenix Suns - F Kawhi Leonard - San Diego State
16. New York Knicks - C Enes Kanter - Kentucky
17. Utah Jazz - PF/C Donatas Motiejunas - Bennetton Basket
18. Memphis Grizzlies - PF Marcus Morris - Kansas
19. Portland Trailblazers - PF/C Keith Benson - Oakland
20. Denver Nuggets - C Lucas Nogueira - Estudiantes
21. Charlotte Bobcats - PF Tristan Thompson - Texas
22. Washington Wizards - SG/SF Bojan Bogdanovic - Cibona
23. Oklahoma City Thunder - F Augusto Lima - Unicaja
24. Phoenix Suns - G Nolan Smith - Duke
25. New Jersey Nets - PF Markieff Morris - Kansas
26. Chicago Bulls - G Brandon Knight - Kentucky
27. Dallas Mavericks - SF Jeff Taylor - Vanderbilt
28. Chicago Bulls - PF Trey Thompkins - Georgia
29. Boston Celtics - SG/SF Klay Thompson - Washington State
30. San Antonio Spurs - F Nikola Mirotic - Real Madrid
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31. Cleveland Cavaliers - SG E'Twaun Moore - Purdue
32. Minnesota T'Wolves - F Tomislav Zubcic - Cibona
33. Sacramento Kings - F Kyle Singler - Duke
34. Toronto Raptors - PF/C Leon Radosevic - Cibona
35. Washington Wizards - F C.J. Leslie - North Carolina State
36. New Jersey Nets - SG/SF David Lighty - Ohio State
37. Detroit Pistons - PF Kenneth Faried - Morehead State
38. LA Clippers - G Demetri McCamey - Illinois
39. Milwaukee Bucks - PF Tobias Harris - Tennessee
40. Charlotte Bobcats - PF/C Rick Jackson - Syracuse
41. Golden State Warriors - G Travis Leslie - Georgia
42. Houston Rockets - PF/C Jon Leuer - Wisconsin
43. Indiana Pacers - PF Jakub Wojciechowski - Benneton Basket
44. Philadelphia 76ers - C Aaric Murray - La Salle
45. Phoenix Suns - PF Justin Harper - Richmond
46. New York Knicks - F Kris Joseph - Syracuse
47. Memphis Grizzlies - SG/SF Scotty Hopson - Tennessee
48. Portland Trailblazers - SG/SF Justin Holiday - Washington
49. Utah Jazz - F Milan Macvan - Maccabi
50. Denver Nuggets - PF Renardo Sidney - Mississippi State
51. New Orleans Hornets - G Josh Selby - Kansas
52. Atlanta Hawks - SG Nihad Djedovic - Lottomatica
53. Orlando Magic - C Dejan Musli - Caja Laboral
54. Oklahoma City Thunder - PF/C Mamadou Samb - Cornella
55. Chicago Bulls - F Elias Harris - Gonzaga
56. LA Lakers - SG/SF Xabi Rabaseda - Fuenlabrada
57. Dallas Mavericks - G Marshon Brooks - Providence
58. Miami Heat - PG Jacob Pullen - Kansas State
59. Boston Celtics - PG Tyshawn Taylor - Kansas
60. San Antonio Spurs - PF/C Bangaly Fofana - ASVEL Basket
32. Minnesota T'Wolves - F Tomislav Zubcic - Cibona
33. Sacramento Kings - F Kyle Singler - Duke
34. Toronto Raptors - PF/C Leon Radosevic - Cibona
35. Washington Wizards - F C.J. Leslie - North Carolina State
36. New Jersey Nets - SG/SF David Lighty - Ohio State
37. Detroit Pistons - PF Kenneth Faried - Morehead State
38. LA Clippers - G Demetri McCamey - Illinois
39. Milwaukee Bucks - PF Tobias Harris - Tennessee
40. Charlotte Bobcats - PF/C Rick Jackson - Syracuse
41. Golden State Warriors - G Travis Leslie - Georgia
42. Houston Rockets - PF/C Jon Leuer - Wisconsin
43. Indiana Pacers - PF Jakub Wojciechowski - Benneton Basket
44. Philadelphia 76ers - C Aaric Murray - La Salle
45. Phoenix Suns - PF Justin Harper - Richmond
46. New York Knicks - F Kris Joseph - Syracuse
47. Memphis Grizzlies - SG/SF Scotty Hopson - Tennessee
48. Portland Trailblazers - SG/SF Justin Holiday - Washington
49. Utah Jazz - F Milan Macvan - Maccabi
50. Denver Nuggets - PF Renardo Sidney - Mississippi State
51. New Orleans Hornets - G Josh Selby - Kansas
52. Atlanta Hawks - SG Nihad Djedovic - Lottomatica
53. Orlando Magic - C Dejan Musli - Caja Laboral
54. Oklahoma City Thunder - PF/C Mamadou Samb - Cornella
55. Chicago Bulls - F Elias Harris - Gonzaga
56. LA Lakers - SG/SF Xabi Rabaseda - Fuenlabrada
57. Dallas Mavericks - G Marshon Brooks - Providence
58. Miami Heat - PG Jacob Pullen - Kansas State
59. Boston Celtics - PG Tyshawn Taylor - Kansas
60. San Antonio Spurs - PF/C Bangaly Fofana - ASVEL Basket
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JaJuan Johnson over Kanter? Not a chance that happens.