Fake Trade Thread #3

[LofJ]

horford is one of the worst contracts in the league. why bro

If we don't land Wiseman I'm in favor of taking on Horford. We need some smart, high character veterans on our roster with both Marvin and Biz gone.

[DY_nasty]

horford is one of the worst contracts in the league. why bro

If we don't land Wiseman I'm in favor of taking on Horford. We need some smart, high character veterans on our roster with both Marvin and Biz gone.

surely we can find someone like that who doesn't make 25+ mil a year until 2023

[LofJ]

horford is one of the worst contracts in the league. why bro

If we don't land Wiseman I'm in favor of taking on Horford. We need some smart, high character veterans on our roster with both Marvin and Biz gone.

surely we can find someone like that who doesn't make 25+ mil a year until 2023

That would be preferable, but I've always liked Horford and he plays a style of basketball that fits what we want to do. So there are worse options ( i.e. Westbrook), and also the last year of his contract is partially guaranteed.

[316Hornets]

East is going to be extremely tough this year. Even worse if Harden switches over.

I'm all in favor of adding some junk contracts for future assets.

Horford, #36 2020, 2023 1st, future 2nd
for
Zeller, Rozier

[Soul Rebel]

East is going to be extremely tough this year. Even worse if Harden switches over.

I'm all in favor of adding some junk contracts for future assets.

Horford, #36 2020, 2023 1st, future 2nd
for
Zeller, Rozier

Nothing about this really appeals to me, especially giving up Terry.

If we were able to get a ‘21 1st...maybe, but still. After seeing Covington and Bogdanovic’s trade deals, I think Rozier has more value and we are taking on the salary cap hit.

[316Hornets]

East is going to be extremely tough this year. Even worse if Harden switches over.

I'm all in favor of adding some junk contracts for future assets.

Horford, #36 2020, 2023 1st, future 2nd
for
Zeller, Rozier

Nothing about this really appeals to me, especially giving up Terry.

If we were able to get a ‘21 1st...maybe, but still. After seeing Covington and Bogdanovic’s trade deals, I think Rozier has more value and we are taking on the salary cap hit.

I would hope we could move Horford before his contract ends. Pay him this year and hope he performs well, then try to offload him for another asset next year.

[Liver_Pooty]

Have a hunch that Westbrook will be a Hornet by tomorrow afternoon.

[LofJ]

Have a hunch that Westbrook will be a Hornet by tomorrow afternoon.

It's not close enough to Thanksgiving for me to start drinking that heavily. Think of my health MJ, please...

[_tijo_]

I just don't think Horford is at the stage where he is the "wise vet to mentor young players" in his mind. I think he still thinks he is in his prime, he wants to be a major cog in a championship winning team, and he would be very unhappy here and would poison our team. (I think him opting out of Boston to go to Philly tells me he thought he was the final piece). I get that we need a Marvin Williams-esque guy who can be around all these young guys, but guys like Marv are rare. I wish he could come back.

And if you're saying that we are trading him for the assets, and can cut him afterwards, that's a WHOLE lot of money for a future draft pick. And while it's not my money, I'd rather see it better spent on other opportunities.

[Liver_Pooty]

Have a hunch that Westbrook will be a Hornet by tomorrow afternoon.

It's not close enough to Thanksgiving for me to start drinking that heavily. Think of my health MJ, please...

Depending on what we give up id welcome it.

[Soul Rebel]

On the Westbrook trade talk, if a scenario like this played out, would you still not want him?

The draft goes Ball/Edwards or Edwards/Ball at 1 and 2, and we select Wiseman at 3.

Then, we trade Rozier & Batum to Houston for Westbrook, 16 and a future first round pick.

We would still have the 16th and 30th pick to add more assets.

Graham
Westbrook
Bridges
PJ
Wiseman

[LofJ]

Have a hunch that Westbrook will be a Hornet by tomorrow afternoon.

It's not close enough to Thanksgiving for me to start drinking that heavily. Think of my health MJ, please...

Depending on what we give up id welcome it.

Jordan shouldn't bail Fertita out for $90+ million dollars by sending him expiring deals without compensation coming back. If they don't attach the Portland picks they just traded for they should be told to pound sand.

[Liver_Pooty]

On the Westbrook trade talk, if a scenario like this played out, would you still not want him?

The draft goes Ball/Edwards or Edwards/Ball at 1 and 2, and we select Wiseman at 3.

Then, we trade Rozier & Batum to Houston for Westbrook, 16 and a future first round pick.

We would still have the 16th and 30th pick to add more assets.

Graham
Westbrook
Bridges
PJ
Wiseman

Or Edwards at 3. I have no idea how good the team would be, but Westbrook Edwards and Miles would be one insanely athletic lineup.

[Liver_Pooty]

It's not close enough to Thanksgiving for me to start drinking that heavily. Think of my health MJ, please...

Depending on what we give up id welcome it.

Jordan shouldn't bail Fertita out for $90+ million dollars by sending him expiring deals without compensation coming back. If they don't attach the Portland picks they just traded for they should be told to pound sand.

Yeah, I can agree with that.

[Chapelchilla]

On the Westbrook trade talk, if a scenario like this played out, would you still not want him?

The draft goes Ball/Edwards or Edwards/Ball at 1 and 2, and we select Wiseman at 3.

Then, we trade Rozier & Batum to Houston for Westbrook, 16 and a future first round pick.

We would still have the 16th and 30th pick to add more assets.

Graham
Westbrook
Bridges
PJ
Wiseman

If that scenario played out, I guess I would be okay with it. The Hive would definitely be a whole lot fuller and I think that is a fairly strong line up. Adding in the Martins, Jalen, Monk, Zeller and the other 2 draft picks, that team is very deep and pretty versatile. The no big egos of our starters would mesh fairly well with Westbrooks need to be the man and we would have lots of shooting and rebounding. If Wiseman (or OO) can plug up the leaky inside D that team is a winner. Probably 4th or 5th in the East and the most exciting Hornets team since the Lin year or maybe even the 90's.

[Hornet Mania]

If we send out any value (future 1st, Monk, or better) then I have no interest in Westbrook. I'm 50/50 on trading Batum + Terry for Westbrook + 16. Overall I'd rather just stick it out with the rebuild especially since the young guys developed so well last season, but if Houston is sending future 1sts our way it's at least worth considering.

[James Gatz]

On the Westbrook trade talk, if a scenario like this played out, would you still not want him?

The draft goes Ball/Edwards or Edwards/Ball at 1 and 2, and we select Wiseman at 3.

Then, we trade Rozier & Batum to Houston for Westbrook, 16 and a future first round pick.

We would still have the 16th and 30th pick to add more assets.

Graham
Westbrook
Bridges
PJ
Wiseman

RW puts us back in the 7-10 seed range. 2021 is noted to be one of the best drafts especially at the top in recent memory. We could get a franchise changer at pick 5. I don't want to pass that up to see RW lose his speed and bounce for the cost of 50 mil.

[JMAC3]

Here are my Westbrook thoughts.

Is his best basketball behind him? Yes.

Is he worthless? No.

If he was a free agent and he was asking for a 3/150+ would I offer it to him? Probably not, so why would I give up an asset for him.

Does he want to be here? Reports are no.

Do I think in a year his value will be up/down/same? Probably same. so don't see it as an investment/buy low flip candidate.

If we draft Ball do I want him? No, I'm not sure any two out of Ball, Graham, and Westbrook can co-exist let alone all three.

If we draft Edwards do I want him? Eh that is more stomachable, but still probably say no.

If we draft Wiseman do I want him? He probably helps Wiseman a bit so this is best case scenario. Might do a deal where they dump him and that future first they got from Portland is included. for basically just Batum+ Filler. Probably only way I consider it and I still am not jumping for joy.

If he had just this year left on his deal the Rockets would just eat it and not deal him. If he had this year and next year on the books only I would probably be more open to trade because if it fails it fails fast. The fact that it is three years is what kills the value in my mind (same for Klove, Wall, Wiggins, etc.) It just really handcuffs you for a long time.

[stinger14]

On the Westbrook trade talk, if a scenario like this played out, would you still not want him?

The draft goes Ball/Edwards or Edwards/Ball at 1 and 2, and we select Wiseman at 3.

Then, we trade Rozier & Batum to Houston for Westbrook, 16 and a future first round pick.

We would still have the 16th and 30th pick to add more assets.

Graham
Westbrook
Bridges
PJ
Wiseman

RW puts us back in the 7-10 seed range. 2021 is noted to be one of the best drafts especially at the top in recent memory. We could get a franchise changer at pick 5. I don't want to pass that up to see RW lose his speed and bounce for the cost of 50 mil.

I 100% agree with this. Look at it this way, the last time we started a rebuild Jordan got impatient and sped up the process, and we have no accomplishments to show for it. Breaking plan and trading for RW does the exact same thing. It would be Jordan trying to speed up the process, get the 8th seed a couple times only to lose in the first round and walk away again with nothing to show for it. This scenario is exactly what makes other teams ignore and disrespect the Hornets.

[MasterIchiro]

We need a stretch 5 if Westbrook is here. So I would want to trade Zeller + 16 for Turner. Draft Avdija at 3.

Devonte' / 32
Westbrook / Monk
Avdija / Miles
Washington / McDaniels
Turner / free agent