Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[Eoghan]

Leuer's not bad, but I don't think he's a guy you give up actual value for.

At most, I'd probably trade Taylor, 2nd, and give Memphis the rights to swap 2015 1sts with us.

I'd much rather go after Taj.

I didn't, just a journeyman combo guard and Zeller.

[HornetJail]

Leuer's not bad, but I don't think he's a guy you give up actual value for.

At most, I'd probably trade Taylor, 2nd, and give Memphis the rights to swap 2015 1sts with us.

I'd much rather go after Taj.

I didn't, just a journeyman combo guard and Zeller.

Zeller could be a main piece in a much better deal. Would you rather trade Zeller for Leuer or Zeller, Neal, and a 1st for Taj?

[TheKingofSting]

We should just sign Okafor and get it over with.

[Eoghan]

Leuer's not bad, but I don't think he's a guy you give up actual value for.

At most, I'd probably trade Taylor, 2nd, and give Memphis the rights to swap 2015 1sts with us.

I'd much rather go after Taj.

I didn't, just a journeyman combo guard and Zeller.

Zeller could be a main piece in a much better deal. Would you rather trade Zeller for Leuer or Zeller, Neal, and a 1st for Taj?

I'd rather keep the first and get Leuer. Seems like the last time we traded a future 1st for a Chicago PF it didn't work out too well.

[HornetJail]

I'd rather keep the first and get Leuer. Seems like the last time we traded a future 1st for a Chicago PF it didn't work out too well.

There's a difference between an established vet who is solid on both ends of the floor for a great team, and a garbage "potential" guy who had proven nothing in the league after nearly 4 seasons on an average-at-best team.

There's no sugarcoating it- Tyrus Thomas even at his best, was never better than Taj Gibson, even at his worst. Thomas dazzled people a few times a season with a monster blocking exhibition here and there but he never even came close to putting it together.

[LofJ]

I'd rather keep the first and get Leuer. Seems like the last time we traded a future 1st for a Chicago PF it didn't work out too well.

There's a difference between an established vet who is solid on both ends of the floor for a great team, and a garbage "potential" guy who had proven nothing in the league after nearly 4 seasons on an average-at-best team.

It could have been worse, we at least weren't crazy enough to trade Aldridge for him.

[Eoghan]

I'd rather keep the first and get Leuer. Seems like the last time we traded a future 1st for a Chicago PF it didn't work out too well.

There's a difference between an established vet who is solid on both ends of the floor for a great team, and a garbage "potential" guy who had proven nothing in the league after nearly 4 seasons on an average-at-best team.

There's no sugarcoating it- Tyrus Thomas even at his best, was never better than Taj Gibson, even at his worst. Thomas dazzled people a few times a season with a monster blocking exhibition here and there but he never even came close to putting it together.

Valid points but our luck, Taj's knees are headed towards a point of no return and their GM bends Cho over a barrel again.

Edit: That was probably Higgins bent over the barrel now that I think about it.

[JDR720]

Trade idea

Zeller and Roberts for Wright and Nelson (Dallas)

[catch20two]

Trade idea

Zeller and Roberts for Wright and Nelson (Dallas)

Isn't Jameer starting for Dallas? No way they agree to that unless Jameer is playing worst than a backup. Not to mention Brandan Wright is a better junkyard dog than Zeller. I could only wish Zeller could become efficient like Wright on both ends.

[Bravenewworld]

Leuer's not bad, but I don't think he's a guy you give up actual value for.

At most, I'd probably trade Taylor, 2nd, and give Memphis the rights to swap 2015 1sts with us.

I'd much rather go after Taj.

I didn't, just a journeyman combo guard and Zeller.

Zeller could be a main piece in a much better deal. Would you rather trade Zeller for Leuer or Zeller, Neal, and a 1st for Taj?

You guys have to stop overrating Zeller. If i were the Bulls, i would not touch that trade with a twenty foot pole as there is literally zero reason for the Bulls to do this.

[Liver_Pooty]

May as well just make this the Zeller trade thread.

[Bravenewworld]

May as well just make this the Zeller trade thread.

Ug, thats so pathetic though. People think he has this massive value or can be the center of a trade.... no. Unless you are suggesting trading Zeller for a backup player, he wont be the center of anything.

[Liver_Pooty]

May as well just make this the Zeller trade thread.

Ug, thats so pathetic though. People think he has this massive value or can be the center of a trade.... no. Unless you are suggesting trading Zeller for a backup player, he wont be the center of anything.

Pretty sure hes only been suggested for backups. Unless you count us throwing in a first with him for an upgrade. Personally id like to see Biyombo and a 2nd for his brother, but Celts wouldn't bite.

[Bravenewworld]

May as well just make this the Zeller trade thread.

Ug, thats so pathetic though. People think he has this massive value or can be the center of a trade.... no. Unless you are suggesting trading Zeller for a backup player, he wont be the center of anything.

Pretty sure hes only been suggested for backups. Unless you count us throwing in a first with him for an upgrade. Personally id like to see Biyombo and a 2nd for his brother, but Celts wouldn't bite.

Even with that trade Zeller has to be the highlight. An 18+ pick is not very attractive for a starting quality player. The only way they could pull this off is by going after rebuilding teams. Celtics, Magic, TWolves, maybe maybe maybe Jazz, etc.

[Liver_Pooty]

Ug, thats so pathetic though. People think he has this massive value or can be the center of a trade.... no. Unless you are suggesting trading Zeller for a backup player, he wont be the center of anything.

Pretty sure hes only been suggested for backups. Unless you count us throwing in a first with him for an upgrade. Personally id like to see Biyombo and a 2nd for his brother, but Celts wouldn't bite.

Even with that trade Zeller has to be the highlight. An 18+ pick is not very attractive for a starting quality player. The only way they could pull this off is by going after rebuilding teams. Celtics, Magic, TWolves, maybe maybe maybe Jazz, etc.

Tell that to these guys who put him in e very single trade situation imaginable. I find it humorous how some Hornet fans are patient as can be with everyone we draft, except Zeller. But it is what it is.

[catch20two]

If Zeller was starting I prolly wouldn't want him traded but since Clifford insist on Messy Marv starting and I view Vonleh as the future starting PF we might as well get a headstart on what should be inevitable before Zeller's value dwindle anymore than it already has.

The Zeller+Hendo package is like anthrax because nobody wanna sniff it but I'm sure we'll sucker some dumb GM into giving us something for it.

[Liver_Pooty]

If Zeller was starting I prolly wouldn't want him traded but since Clifford insist on Messy Marv starting and I view Vonleh as the future starting PF we might as well get a headstart on what should be inevitable before Zeller's value dwindle anymore than it already has.

The Zeller+Hendo package is like anthrax because nobody wanna sniff it but I'm sure we'll sucker some dumb GM into giving us something for it.

Way things are going Zeller will be starting sooner than later. Zeller overall outplayed him in the preseason. I wouldn't give up on Zeller just yet, but thats just me.

Edit: Plus Clifford always mentions positive things about him in every other interview.

[catch20two]

I find it humorous how some Hornet fans are patient as can be with everyone we draft, except Zeller. But it is what it is.

This is what it is. Zeller or Vonleh? I choose Vonleh. Together they are redundant and not a solid PF/C duo so one of them have to go. I thought maybe we could start Zeller to see what he really has during this year's playoff run while slowly grooming Vonleh with limited minutes but that's not the case because of Clifford's infatuation with spacing from his Magic days of surrounding Dwight with shooters and Lakers days with D'Antoni where everybody gotta shoot a 3 or they're worthless.

[Liver_Pooty]

I find it humorous how some Hornet fans are patient as can be with everyone we draft, except Zeller. But it is what it is.

This is what it is. Zeller or Vonleh? I choose Vonleh. Together they are redundant and not a solid PF/C duo so one of them have to go. I thought maybe we could start Zeller to see what he really has during this year's playoff run while slowly grooming Vonleh with limited minutes but that's not the case because of Clifford's infatuation with spacing from his Magic days of surrounding Dwight with shooters and Lakers days with D'Antoni where everybody gotta shoot a 3 or they're worthless.

Why not keep both and have really, really good depth? Maybe Vonleh becomes a center? The man already looks like hes 25 years old and sculpted from stone.

Edit: Bulls have had Gibson coming off the bench for years. Not saying Zeller or even Vonleh will ever be as good as Gibson, but you don't see them giving him up just because he comes off the bench do you? Both of them would give us great depth.

[catch20two]

If Zeller was starting I prolly wouldn't want him traded but since Clifford insist on Messy Marv starting and I view Vonleh as the future starting PF we might as well get a headstart on what should be inevitable before Zeller's value dwindle anymore than it already has.

The Zeller+Hendo package is like anthrax because nobody wanna sniff it but I'm sure we'll sucker some dumb GM into giving us something for it.

Way things are going Zeller will be starting sooner than later. Zeller overall outplayed him in the preseason. I wouldn't give up on Zeller just yet, but thats just me.

Edit: Plus Clifford always mentions positive things about him in every other interview.

I hope so. I would feel much better about our team and chemistry if Zeller was starting. We didn't skip a beat when Zeller started in place of Mcbob. We'll skip a whole song with Marv starting because he's so mediocre it's ridiculous that we guaranteed him the starting job before competition and paid him 7 mil a year.