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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#381 » by LofJ » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:18 pm

316Hornets wrote:Don't worry guys

After Kemba leaves, this will be us

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We treadmilled so hard it forcefully threw us off, I like it.

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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#382 » by Robot Rock » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:19 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:The rumored Gasol trades would've helped the cap situation, certainly not "put us in worse cap hell."

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I'm gonna need an explanation for how having 35-year-old Marc Gasol as your best player if Kemba walks makes you a better team. By all accounts, Memphis wanted Monk or Bridges in addition to a first-round pick, just to give us Gasol and take Biyombo off our hands. That would've accomplished:

1) Hurting our already perilous interior defense
2) Robbing us of a SG who's still improving
3) Robbing us of our first-round pick
4) ???
5) Somehow making us better
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#383 » by 316Hornets » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:19 pm

I don't hate that we didn't make a big play because Toronto and Philly distanced themselves even more from us, but we could've done something to move some of our bloated contracts.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#384 » by BlackOutBuzz » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:20 pm

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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#386 » by LofJ » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:23 pm

Mitch earlier today:

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Post#387 » by JDuaneWayne » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:24 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:The rumored Gasol trades would've helped the cap situation, certainly not "put us in worse cap hell."

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I'm gonna need an explanation for how having 35-year-old Marc Gasol as your best player if Kemba walks makes you a better team. By all accounts, Memphis wanted Monk or Bridges in addition to a first-round pick, just to give us Gasol and take Biyombo off our hands. That would've accomplished:

1) Hurting our already perilous interior defense
2) Robbing us of a SG who's still improving
3) Robbing us of our first-round pick
4) ???
5) Somehow making us better


You’re stuck on Gasol. It seems to me we had a deal and I think we went back for more or giving up less. That Toronto package wasn’t great and the people saying Monk are even credible sources.

NOBODY here was on board with trading Bridges or Monk (unless they took Batum)

You can look at what Kemba said as a mandate or not, we will see this summer.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#388 » by BlackOutBuzz » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:24 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:The rumored Gasol trades would've helped the cap situation, certainly not "put us in worse cap hell."

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I'm gonna need an explanation for how having 35-year-old Marc Gasol as your best player if Kemba walks makes you a better team. By all accounts, Memphis wanted Monk or Bridges in addition to a first-round pick, just to give us Gasol and take Biyombo off our hands. That would've accomplished:

1) Hurting our already perilous interior defense
2) Robbing us of a SG who's still improving
3) Robbing us of our first-round pick
4) ???
5) Somehow making us better


Well first off I never said anything about Gasol being our best player post-Kemba, nor did I mention anything aside from our cap sheet. Second: Monk and/or Bridges were never included in any substantiated rumors, most credible sources had some combination of Cody/Biz/MKG/protected 1st.

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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#389 » by yosemiteben » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:25 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:The rumored Gasol trades would've helped the cap situation, certainly not "put us in worse cap hell."

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I'm gonna need an explanation for how having 35-year-old Marc Gasol as your best player if Kemba walks makes you a better team.

He didn't say it would make us better. He said it would help the cap situation.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#390 » by Robot Rock » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:27 pm

JDuaneWayne wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:The rumored Gasol trades would've helped the cap situation, certainly not "put us in worse cap hell."

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I'm gonna need an explanation for how having 35-year-old Marc Gasol as your best player if Kemba walks makes you a better team. By all accounts, Memphis wanted Monk or Bridges in addition to a first-round pick, just to give us Gasol and take Biyombo off our hands. That would've accomplished:

1) Hurting our already perilous interior defense
2) Robbing us of a SG who's still improving
3) Robbing us of our first-round pick
4) ???
5) Somehow making us better


You’re stuck on Gasol. It seems to me we had a deal and I think we went back for more or giving up less. That Toronto package wasn’t great and the people saying Monk are even credible sources.

NOBODY here was on board with trading Bridges or Monk (unless they took Batum)

You can look at what Kemba said as a mandate or not, we will see this summer.


Uh, I was replying to a post about Gasol, so yeah, I probably was going to focus it on Gasol...

Since you weren't on board with giving up Monk or Bridges for Gasol, and obviously Memphis wanted them otherwise they'd have taken an MKG-Biyombo-FRP package (why would they accept that though? They have an MKG already), what did you want done that wasn't done? Be specific.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#391 » by Robot Rock » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:28 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:The rumored Gasol trades would've helped the cap situation, certainly not "put us in worse cap hell."

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I'm gonna need an explanation for how having 35-year-old Marc Gasol as your best player if Kemba walks makes you a better team.

He didn't say it would make us better. He said it would help the cap situation.


OK. How's that attract Kemba to stay?
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#392 » by yosemiteben » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:28 pm

LofJ wrote:Mitch earlier today:

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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#393 » by Robot Rock » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:29 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:The rumored Gasol trades would've helped the cap situation, certainly not "put us in worse cap hell."

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I'm gonna need an explanation for how having 35-year-old Marc Gasol as your best player if Kemba walks makes you a better team. By all accounts, Memphis wanted Monk or Bridges in addition to a first-round pick, just to give us Gasol and take Biyombo off our hands. That would've accomplished:

1) Hurting our already perilous interior defense
2) Robbing us of a SG who's still improving
3) Robbing us of our first-round pick
4) ???
5) Somehow making us better


Well first off I never said anything about Gasol being our best player post-Kemba, nor did I mention anything aside from our cap sheet. Second: Monk and/or Bridges were never included in any substantiated rumors, most credible sources had some combination of Cody/Biz/MKG/protected 1st.

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So if we offered some combination of Cody/Biz/MKG/protected 1st, and they declined, what'd we do wrong again?
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#394 » by 316Hornets » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:30 pm

It wouldn't surprise me if the team decided to not bid high for Gasol because adding him would almost assure Kemba makes All-NBA and want the supermax.

Now the team can act all sad and disappointed and point at Kemba when he walks away because we can't offer anything more than any other team can offer after you factor in sponsorships he'll gain from a big market.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#395 » by BlackOutBuzz » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:33 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
I'm gonna need an explanation for how having 35-year-old Marc Gasol as your best player if Kemba walks makes you a better team. By all accounts, Memphis wanted Monk or Bridges in addition to a first-round pick, just to give us Gasol and take Biyombo off our hands. That would've accomplished:

1) Hurting our already perilous interior defense
2) Robbing us of a SG who's still improving
3) Robbing us of our first-round pick
4) ???
5) Somehow making us better


Well first off I never said anything about Gasol being our best player post-Kemba, nor did I mention anything aside from our cap sheet. Second: Monk and/or Bridges were never included in any substantiated rumors, most credible sources had some combination of Cody/Biz/MKG/protected 1st.

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So if we offered some combination of Cody/Biz/MKG/protected 1st, and they declined, what'd we do wrong again?
Nothing, honestly. Just frustrating they couldn't regroup to do something once that fell through. The only other teams that stood pat were the top 2 teams in the west and the damn Spurs. We are certainly not in a comparable situation.

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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#396 » by Robot Rock » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:37 pm

316Hornets wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if the team decided to not bid high for Gasol because adding him would almost assure Kemba makes All-NBA and want the supermax.

Now the team can act all sad and disappointed and point at Kemba when he walks away because we can't offer anything more than any other team can offer after you factor in sponsorships he'll gain from a big market.


I think the team decided not to bid high on Gasol because he's a 34-year-old center who doesn't fit the offense beyond improving our ratings on 2K, and he costs $24 million this year and $25 million next year if he opts in. And if he opts out, I guess the team decided not to bid high on a two-month rental of a 34-year-old center who doesn't fit the offense beyond improving our ratings on 2K.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#397 » by Robot Rock » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:38 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:
Well first off I never said anything about Gasol being our best player post-Kemba, nor did I mention anything aside from our cap sheet. Second: Monk and/or Bridges were never included in any substantiated rumors, most credible sources had some combination of Cody/Biz/MKG/protected 1st.

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So if we offered some combination of Cody/Biz/MKG/protected 1st, and they declined, what'd we do wrong again?
Nothing, honestly. Just frustrating they couldn't regroup to do something once that fell through. The only other teams that stood pat were the top 2 teams in the west and the damn Spurs. We are certainly not in a comparable situation.

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It's not our fault the Grizzlies valued JV and a 2nd over Biyombo/Cody or MKG/mid 1st. I can't say I agree with them. But if I'm them, would I take Biyombo/Monk and a mid-1st? Absolutely -- which is why I'm glad we didn't offer that.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#398 » by 316Hornets » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:40 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
316Hornets wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if the team decided to not bid high for Gasol because adding him would almost assure Kemba makes All-NBA and want the supermax.

Now the team can act all sad and disappointed and point at Kemba when he walks away because we can't offer anything more than any other team can offer after you factor in sponsorships he'll gain from a big market.


I think the team decided not to bid high on Gasol because he's a 34-year-old center who doesn't fit the offense beyond improving our ratings on 2K, and he costs $24 million this year and $25 million next year if he opts in. And if he opts out, I guess the team decided not to bid high on a two-month rental of a 34-year-old center who doesn't fit the offense beyond improving our ratings on 2K.


The money you are speaking about is practically meaningless. You're telling me Gasol isn't better than Biz & MKG? Or Zeller & MKG? We are paying guys anyway, if he opted out, we'd have 25 million to spend on someone else. I just don't follow your logic. You are assuming that we'd be trading Monk or Bridges, which has never been reported by a reputable source.

I would trade a lotto protected frp for Gasol along with Biz/Cody & MKG. I think that is a good deal for us and better than what Toronto gave up.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#399 » by Robot Rock » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:44 pm

316Hornets wrote:
Robot Rock wrote:
316Hornets wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if the team decided to not bid high for Gasol because adding him would almost assure Kemba makes All-NBA and want the supermax.

Now the team can act all sad and disappointed and point at Kemba when he walks away because we can't offer anything more than any other team can offer after you factor in sponsorships he'll gain from a big market.


I think the team decided not to bid high on Gasol because he's a 34-year-old center who doesn't fit the offense beyond improving our ratings on 2K, and he costs $24 million this year and $25 million next year if he opts in. And if he opts out, I guess the team decided not to bid high on a two-month rental of a 34-year-old center who doesn't fit the offense beyond improving our ratings on 2K.


The money you are speaking about is practically meaningless. You're telling me Gasol isn't better than Biz & MKG? Or Zeller & MKG? We are paying guys anyway, if he opted out, we'd have 25 million to spend on someone else. I just don't follow your logic. You are assuming that we'd be trading Monk or Bridges, which has never been reported by a reputable source.

I would trade a lotto protected frp for Gasol along with Biz/Cody & MKG. I think that is a good deal for us and better than what Toronto gave up.


"Bid high for Gasol" means adding Monk or Bridges. I'd trade a lotto-protected 1st and Biz/Cody and MKG, too. But that's not bidding high.
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Re: 2019 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#400 » by amcoolio » Thu Feb 7, 2019 9:45 pm

When the Raptors beat us by 45 you’ll see what we are talking about

And Gasol would have fit great here. Hes an amalgamation of all our **** centers. What Cody was supposed to be

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