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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#541 » by JMAC3 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:31 am

JMAC3 wrote:Amen and Ausar play tonight at 7:30 on Amazon Prime vs Cold Hearts team that has a lot of future NBA talent.

Cold Hearts
Rob Dillingham #8 in 2023 heading to Kentucky
Nas Cunningham #3 in 2024 class
Somto Cyril is a future NBA big IMO.
Bryce Griggs - best pure passer in OTE, lead his team to title last year. Draft Eligible, but probably more of Gleague talent.
Tyler Smith- potential stretch 4 in NBA someday.

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Along with Thompson Twins is
Bryson Tiller #6 in 2025
Trey Parker - elite dunker from Fayetteville, NC
Eli Ellis - really really good shooter from Hickory, NC


Feedback from game? A lot more talent than people are going to admit plays in this league. Real rim protection, real NBA size on the court. This isn’t some little highschool league.

Amen and Ausar both struggled the first half, but Amen took over the 4th including two big 3s and the game sealing steal, behind the back and dunk.

Ausar would be a great fit playing off Lamelo, he is really good in transition, cutting and his jump shot looks better than I was expecting. Really easy to see how their size and defensive prowess would fit next to Lamelo longterm.

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#542 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:17 am

more i read about this miller gun thing, the worse it sounds. legally, looks like nothing can or will happen, but no way was it just "wrong place, wrong time". what the **** is wrong with people?
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Post#543 » by UNCNYC » Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:30 am

Alternative players that offers similar style of play if the favorites are gone

Scoot Henderson - London Johnson

Jalen Hood Schifino - Kevin McCullar

Brice Sensabaugh - Chris Ledlum
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#544 » by amcoolio » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:17 pm

fatlever wrote:more i read about this miller gun thing, the worse it sounds. legally, looks like nothing can or will happen, but no way was it just "wrong place, wrong time". what the **** is wrong with people?


I don't think we can draft him based on our troubles

I think its very likely he slides down to the end of the 1st/2nd round anyway
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#545 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:30 pm

I don't think he slides more than 3 to 5 draft spots. Maybe instead of 3rd he goes 6th. Teams don't really care, unless this is tip of the iceberg for him and they uncover a lot more stuff during background checks.

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Post#546 » by UNCNYC » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:36 pm

I think we should pass on Miller. If someone approached me at that age about a gun, I would have talked them out of needing one.

If they were to approach me now about a gun I would avoid them all together...

I'm not sure exactly what happened, so I am just speaking in general and not to what Miller did or didn't do.

My hunch overall is he is a good kid, and although we might need him, doubt we need the possible negative news paper articles.
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Post#547 » by JMAC3 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:45 pm

The Miller thing seems like too much speculation right now.

There is confusion if he knew he was bringing the gun or not, apparently the gun was in a hat or bag and the text said bring the hat/bag (not bring the gun). Idk much about the relationship he had with the guy whose gun it was, was that guy a bad guy always? or was it a weird one off character thing for his friend.

For instance, if your best friend said bring a gun. I am sure there are plenty of people who would of done the exact same in fear for their friends life. It also wasn't even his friend that shot the girl, apparently his friend gave the gun to another person that did the shooting.

I feel like we need more details about the situation. Clearly the people who know the most - police/bama atheltics seem to think Miller should not be charged/punished.
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Post#548 » by HornetJail » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:02 pm

I'm out on this dude. Even if he doesn't get charged right now I'd be worried about him getting implicated at some point or another with that whole situation. It doesn't make sense to me that he, his gun, and his car were involved and somehow that doesn't at least make him some kind of accessory.
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Post#549 » by LofJ » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:24 pm

I think I'm in on the Thompson twins now. Their size, athleticism, defense, and playmaking are all things we need. LaMelo can't be the only plus playmaker on the team. Hayward is going to be gone after next season and who knows what will happen with Miles. We're going to need another wing player to replace them.

If they check out off the court, we should take a hard look at both of them.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#550 » by JMAC3 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:31 pm

LofJ wrote:I think I'm in on the Thompson twins now. Their size, athleticism, defense, and playmaking are all things we need. LaMelo can't be the only plus playmaker on the team. Hayward is going to be gone after next season and who knows what will happen with Miles. We're going to need another wing player to replace them.

If they check out off the court, we should take a hard look at both of them.


This is kind of where I am at this point. The one thing they are bad at, shooting.. is something that can be taught and improve over time. You can't teach their feel for the game, athelticism, size etc... They bring a different aspect to the team when compared to our current situation of LaMelo and Rozier.

I think Scoot will be a better player than Rozier, but deep down they present the same issues. Shoot first, small guard that doesn't possess a high defensive ceiling.
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Post#551 » by LofJ » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:02 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
LofJ wrote:I think I'm in on the Thompson twins now. Their size, athleticism, defense, and playmaking are all things we need. LaMelo can't be the only plus playmaker on the team. Hayward is going to be gone after next season and who knows what will happen with Miles. We're going to need another wing player to replace them.

If they check out off the court, we should take a hard look at both of them.


This is kind of where I am at this point. The one thing they are bad at, shooting.. is something that can be taught and improve over time. You can't teach their feel for the game, athelticism, size etc... They bring a different aspect to the team when compared to our current situation of LaMelo and Rozier.

I think Scoot will be a better player than Rozier, but deep down they present the same issues. Shoot first, small guard that doesn't possess a high defensive ceiling.


Agreed, I think the key to unlocking a more balanced team is to replace Rozier with a bigger player. Playing him next to LaMelo eliminates the size advantage we would otherwise have. If we added Amen or Ausar to the team we could finally play big 1-5. A creative coach (not Clifford) will be able to find ways to take advantage of that.
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Post#552 » by UNCNYC » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:03 pm

20 Providence @ 18 UConn - 6:30 PM - FS1 ( Devin Carter VS Jordan Hawkins )

2 Alabama @ South Carolina - 9:00 PM - ESPN2 ( Brandon Miller VS GG Jackson )
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Post#553 » by Chapelchilla » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:10 pm

UNCNYC wrote:I think we should pass on Miller. If someone approached me at that age about a gun, I would have talked them out of needing one.

If they were to approach me now about a gun I would avoid them all together...

I'm not sure exactly what happened, so I am just speaking in general and not to what Miller did or didn't do.

My hunch overall is he is a good kid, and although we might need him, doubt we need the possible negative news paper articles.


The kinda college kid who has a gun at school may not be the best fit all things considered
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#554 » by JMAC3 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:22 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:
UNCNYC wrote:I think we should pass on Miller. If someone approached me at that age about a gun, I would have talked them out of needing one.

If they were to approach me now about a gun I would avoid them all together...

I'm not sure exactly what happened, so I am just speaking in general and not to what Miller did or didn't do.

My hunch overall is he is a good kid, and although we might need him, doubt we need the possible negative news paper articles.


The kinda college kid who has a gun at school may not be the best fit all things considered


Yeah, that wasn't the case. Basically Miller dropped his friend off at the club and his friend left his gun in Miller car. Then later he asked Miller to bring it to him along with his other stuff.

There are 3 main people on Miller side. Miller who returned the gun. Miles who owned the gun and asked him to bring it. Then the third guy Davis who actually shot the woman.

From my understanding it was not a premeditated murder on the woman either. Davis and Miles were beefing with her boyfriend at the club and then later a shootout occurred between the two parties and the woman who died was struck in the crossfire.

An awful situation and I feel bad for the woman and her family, but at same time I think it is important to tell the full story.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#555 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:33 pm

JMAC3 wrote:The Miller thing seems like too much speculation right now.

There is confusion if he knew he was bringing the gun or not, apparently the gun was in a hat or bag and the text said bring the hat/bag (not bring the gun). Idk much about the relationship he had with the guy whose gun it was, was that guy a bad guy always? or was it a weird one off character thing for his friend.

For instance, if your best friend said bring a gun. I am sure there are plenty of people who would of done the exact same in fear for their friends life. It also wasn't even his friend that shot the girl, apparently his friend gave the gun to another person that did the shooting.

I feel like we need more details about the situation. Clearly the people who know the most - police/bama atheltics seem to think Miller should not be charged/punished.
Come on... he brought a loaded gun to his friend who was in a conflict with another group of people. At 1:40 a.m. in the morning. Then he and his other friend use their cars to block the road where the shooting occurred, causing Miller's car to get hit with multiple bullets. Then after seeing everything, did absolutely nothing, didn't alert anyone didn't go to the authorities, nothing. I find it incredibly hard to believe he didn't know what was up.

The police are doing nothing but cause they can't prove he broke a law. Alabama is doing nothing because they're covering their ass to protect their Athletics program. That part is not rocket science.

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Post#556 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:37 pm

Seems nick Smith Jr is playing better lately. Is he moving vack up the board?

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Post#557 » by UNCNYC » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:54 pm

Whoever does better between Providence VS UConn ( Jordan Hawkins VS Devin Carter ) game tonight is who I will rate number 3 SG in the draft after Keyonte George and Brandin Podziemski.
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Post#558 » by SWedd523 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:26 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:
UNCNYC wrote:I think we should pass on Miller. If someone approached me at that age about a gun, I would have talked them out of needing one.

If they were to approach me now about a gun I would avoid them all together...

I'm not sure exactly what happened, so I am just speaking in general and not to what Miller did or didn't do.

My hunch overall is he is a good kid, and although we might need him, doubt we need the possible negative news paper articles.


The kinda college kid who has a gun at school may not be the best fit all things considered

Why is that?
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Post#559 » by Braggins » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:21 pm

fatlever wrote:Seems nick Smith Jr is playing better lately. Is he moving vack up the board?

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Not really. I don't think he ever actually moved down though.

He was having a solid game last night and then got hot and hit a few threes late in the 2nd half when they were already up by like 30. He was shooting like 30% from the field in the few games before that since his most recent return. He had 3 rebounds and 4 assists in the last four games (averaging 1.3 reb / 1.4 ast for season).

He still has yet to do much of anything to in indicate high level NBA potential in the seven games Ive watched of his. Hes undersized, not a good athlete, doesn't create his own shot well and has limited vision. Hes not a good defender. He doesn't have a particularly good handle or anything like that to hang his hat on. He looks like he could be a pretty good shooter, but he hasn't really performed well at that either yet. His best skill right now is hitting floaters. He hasn't made those at the rate youd like either because they are often highly contested because he struggles to get open, but you can tell he has the touch and makes them when he has space.

I honestly find it baffling that he was ranked as high in his class as he was.
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Post#560 » by JMAC3 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:30 pm

fatlever wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:The Miller thing seems like too much speculation right now.

There is confusion if he knew he was bringing the gun or not, apparently the gun was in a hat or bag and the text said bring the hat/bag (not bring the gun). Idk much about the relationship he had with the guy whose gun it was, was that guy a bad guy always? or was it a weird one off character thing for his friend.

For instance, if your best friend said bring a gun. I am sure there are plenty of people who would of done the exact same in fear for their friends life. It also wasn't even his friend that shot the girl, apparently his friend gave the gun to another person that did the shooting.

I feel like we need more details about the situation. Clearly the people who know the most - police/bama atheltics seem to think Miller should not be charged/punished.
Come on... he brought a loaded gun to his friend who was in a conflict with another group of people. At 1:40 a.m. in the morning. Then he and his other friend use their cars to block the road where the shooting occurred, causing Miller's car to get hit with multiple bullets. Then after seeing everything, did absolutely nothing, didn't alert anyone didn't go to the authorities, nothing. I find it incredibly hard to believe he didn't know what was up.

The police are doing nothing but cause they can't prove he broke a law. Alabama is doing nothing because they're covering their ass to protect their Athletics program. That part is not rocket science.

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Yeah, I think you should probably read more into the topic.

1:40 am for a college student is not late. The bars are open to 2am or later majority of the time and it is common for them to be full until then.
2. Miller had a dash cam that has the shooting on video, so if he was playing a large part in trapping the victims I think charges would of been pressed. It is hard to know if he was just in the aisle of a tight parking lot therefore preventing enough room. Or if he purposefully parked the other car in and trapped them, I would need to see the video for that.
3. The two parties were shooting at each other. Davis took the gun from Miller backseat and opened fire on the other car. Then that car shot back at Davis. If Davis was next to Miller car then it getting shot in the altercation doesn't seem that wild to me.
4. The gun was already in Miller car because he dropped off Miles at the club a few hours ago. It is not like Miller went to Miles house, found the gun and loaded it. He was returning the gun to the person who left it in his car a few hours ago at an hour that they are probably out at semi-regularly. From what I have read it is likely Miller never even touched the gun at any point.
5. Miles called 911 to report the incident.
6. It is 2 am, dark and you have two parties shooting at each other inside of vehicles. Are we sure Miller even knew someone was shot? If you were shooting at the car even 25 yards away it would be difficult to see much. I doubt they walked over to the car that was just shooting at them to make sure everyone was okay.
7. Miller was not there when the incident started between the victims bf and the 2 guys charged. They were beefing earlier while Miller was not present. Are you saying Miller knew all the facts? That they were going to shoot at another person who also had a gun?


I can fully understand how a middle aged audience would find it shocking to be out this late instead of in bed, find it shocking that someone legally owns a gun and carried it with them, find it shocking that as a college athelte someone pressed them in public and threatened them. For most of us we are never going to be in this situation.

It would be interesting to hear 15 nba players weigh on the topic who probably have been around more situations like this.

I am not saying Miller made the best decisions, but I also don't know if he played a part in a murder from what I have read.

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