The Kemba Walker Thread

TheKingofSting · Post #661 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:18 am

BigSlam wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:He averaged 15.3 PPG and 4.1 APG in 17 starts.

I'll wait....

15pts on 14 FGA's and 36% shooting.

You really hate him don't you??

Stun704 · Post #662 » by **Stun704** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:22 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:He averaged 15.3 PPG and 4.1 APG in 17 starts.

I'll wait....

15pts on 14 FGA's and 36% shooting.

You really hate him don't you??

he'd rather his favorite bobcat, aka 3pt assassin, aka "wet" aka the next larry legend aka underpaid aka Matt Caroll take most of those FGA's during that stint when kemba started.. keep in mind 4 of our current starting 5 wasn't playing(DJ,Hendo,Maggs,Biz(buried on the bench) and Reggie Williams

KembaWalker · Post #663 » by **KembaWalker** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:04 am

Faried plays in a system that makes people look good. We play in a system that makes everyone look like even more trash than they actually are

captaincrunk · Post #664 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:38 am

fatlever wrote:and if you want to bring PER into the discussion (since stun mentioned kemba's PER), faried has a PER of 22.4.

per 36 numbers of 16.3pts, 12.8rbs, 1.1blks, 1.8blks

That's a lot of blks. That's like, 2.9 blocks.

Also, Kemba can't shoot for ****.

Post #665 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:59 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:He averaged 15.3 PPG and 4.1 APG in 17 starts.

I'll wait....

15pts on 14 FGA's and 36% shooting.

You really hate him don't you??

Not at all. It's just that the sound of crickets were so overwhelming that I felt the need to post all of the stats and not just the ones that selectively made him appear better than what he actually is.

LamarMatic7 · Post #666 » by **LamarMatic7** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:32 pm

I'm not sure if Kemba can become a point guard. He just reminds me too much of a Brandon Jennings type player and that is something I wouldn't want if I were the coach. I see him playing the small shooting guard, but then again is his shooting good enough to become that Jason Terry type of player.

HornetJail · Post #667 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:30 pm

He'd need A LOT of work on his shot if he ever wants to become a Jason Terry type player.

TheKingofSting · Post #668 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:49 pm

BigSlam wrote:Not at all. It's just that the sound of crickets were so overwhelming that I felt the need to post all of the stats and not just the ones that selectively made him appear better than what he actually is.

He is on a terrible team, he has to shoot.

Marvel · Post #669 » by **Marvel** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:46 am

SWEDD523 wrote:
Marvel wrote:give him a full TC with Summer League and offseason and we'll have a much improved Kemba next season.

And what happens when we give those guys who are currently playing better than him a full TC with Summer League and offseason?

Probably the the same thing if Kemba was playing on a decent team.

captaincrunk · Post #670 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:56 am

Marvel wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:
Marvel wrote:give him a full TC with Summer League and offseason and we'll have a much improved Kemba next season.

And what happens when we give those guys who are currently playing better than him a full TC with Summer League and offseason?

Probably the the same thing if Kemba was playing on a decent team.

What makes a team good? Having good players? The bobcats don't have good players. Kemba is one of the bobcats.

Skillception.

Post #671 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:09 am

captaincrunk wrote:What makes a team good? Having good players? The bobcats don't have good players. Kemba is one of the bobcats.

Skillception.

Maybe, just maybe he is one of the reasons we are bad?

captaincrunk · Post #672 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:51 am

BigSlam wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:What makes a team good? Having good players? The bobcats don't have good players. Kemba is one of the bobcats.

Skillception.

Maybe, just maybe he is one of the reasons we are bad?

He clearly isn't making us a winning team right now.

Post #673 » by **fatlever** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:08 am

BrotherDave wrote:
fatlever wrote:oh, i forgot about leonard. add him to my list.

@ brotherdave - why would you say klay is at his ceiling? he is only 3 months older than kemba. but maybe it was harsh for me to say i would "definitely" take him over kemba. but i would consider it. klay is 6'7" and has a tremendous range on his shot. he is averaging 15ppg this month. at the very least he will be a sniper off the bench for the next decade. he definitely needs to add more to his game. his rebounding is pathetic for a player his size. that must improve if he wants to eventually be a starter.

I think a sniper off the bench is what he'll be at the very most (or a starter on a bad team). He's just too slow to make any real improvement in his weak areas. I haven't watched him much but I haven't seen any cerebral passing instincts or anything like that like Curry has to make up for the lack of athleticism. He's one of those guys I foresee having a severe sophomore slump.

klay thompson with 28 (10 of 13) midway through the 3rd quarter. his jumper is a thing of beauty.

Post #674 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:39 am

fatlever wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
fatlever wrote:oh, i forgot about leonard. add him to my list.

@ brotherdave - why would you say klay is at his ceiling? he is only 3 months older than kemba. but maybe it was harsh for me to say i would "definitely" take him over kemba. but i would consider it. klay is 6'7" and has a tremendous range on his shot. he is averaging 15ppg this month. at the very least he will be a sniper off the bench for the next decade. he definitely needs to add more to his game. his rebounding is pathetic for a player his size. that must improve if he wants to eventually be a starter.

I think a sniper off the bench is what he'll be at the very most (or a starter on a bad team). He's just too slow to make any real improvement in his weak areas. I haven't watched him much but I haven't seen any cerebral passing instincts or anything like that like Curry has to make up for the lack of athleticism. He's one of those guys I foresee having a severe sophomore slump.

klay thompson with 28 (10 of 13) midway through the 3rd quarter. his jumper is a thing of beauty.

and while he boards like a OKC cast off, he has a real knack for passing the rock too.

Marvel · Post #675 » by **Marvel** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:11 am

What makes a team good? Having good players? The bobcats don't have good players. Kemba is one of the bobcats.

Skillceptionb.

Thanks for reinforcing my point, now what was your point again?

Stun704 · Post #676 » by **Stun704** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:13 pm

BigSlam wrote:
fatlever wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:I think a sniper off the bench is what he'll be at the very most (or a starter on a bad team). He's just too slow to make any real improvement in his weak areas. I haven't watched him much but I haven't seen any cerebral passing instincts or anything like that like Curry has to make up for the lack of athleticism. He's one of those guys I foresee having a severe sophomore slump.

klay thompson with 28 (10 of 13) midway through the 3rd quarter. his jumper is a thing of beauty.

and while he boards like a OKC cast off, he has a real knack for passing the rock too.

This man had 2 assists.. 2 assists... and averages 1.6 assists... yeah because putting up stats in GS Warriors system is totally accurate and would parlay into putting up stats on the bobcats.. its not like we just recently signed a ex GSW player who was an offensive magician last year and somehow forgot how to shoot once he got here? *cough cough Reggie Williams.. at this point i think you're just trolling Kemba fans and i won't respond to your posts about him anymore

Post #677 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:18 pm

The really entertaining thing is Stun is that if Kemba was drafted by and playing for any other team putting up the numbers he is putting up with us and playing the way he is playing you would be kicking the crap out of his game. And if he was playing for another team and actually playing well you would make an excuse for it like - just like you have done with Klay Thompson.

I get you are desperate for us to be good and to draft players that end up being great but your Bobcat coloured glasses severely skew your vision.

Post #678 » by **fatlever** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:06 pm

the klay thompson comments weren't meant to really degrade kemba. it was purely to point out why i would probably draft klay ahead of kemba if the draft were redone today. conveniently for me, klay had a monster game the day after i brought it up. (of course he also missed his last 7 shots after i posted last night, figures).

he is averaging 20ppg over his last 8 games, basically since becoming a starter after the ellis trade.

but yeah, what slam said, if klay was a bobcat and kemba was a warrior i would bet my house you would be in the general board talking about how klay was the next ray allen and how kemba is just a chucker. its hard to take you seriously when your biases are so blatant.

i dont like either one of our point guards so its not like i am trying to make kemba look bad in order to make augustin look good.

Stun704 · Post #679 » by **Stun704** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:32 pm

fatlever wrote:the klay thompson comments weren't meant to really degrade kemba. it was purely to point out why i would probably draft klay ahead of kemba if the draft were redone today. conveniently for me, klay had a monster game the day after i brought it up. (of course he also missed his last 7 shots after i posted last night, figures).

he is averaging 20ppg over his last 8 games, basically since becoming a starter after the ellis trade.

but yeah, what slam said, if klay was a bobcat and kemba was a warrior i would bet my house you would be in the general board talking about how klay was the next ray allen and how kemba is just a chucker. its hard to take you seriously when your biases are so blatant.

i dont like either one of our point guards so its not like i am trying to make kemba look bad in order to make augustin look good.

How I act in the general board isn't how I act on the bobcats board, I have to be more aggressive on the GB because simply no other fanbase respects the bobcats.. thats besides the point Kemba has the 7th highest PER from rookies with 15.35 and has the 5th highest value added from rookies. despite having a horrible shooting % he still has a high PER for a rookie, doesn't that tell you something that zeroing in on his "chucking" nature is making you miss other parts of his game that far outweigh his horrid percentage? if he had just an average TS% his per would be in the 18+ which is extremely good.. either you guys view point on him is flawed, or mine and the PER system is flawed...Matter of fact Kemba has the highest PER on our team.. so in a sense he is the BEST player on our team, every single one of our players should be criticized for their horrid play for this season before a rookie with the highest PER..

EDIT: - Reggies TS% went down from .585 to .503, every single one of our players have been struggling with their FG%, if the whole team is struggling, then I don't see how you can reasonably blame Kemba for being an outlier when he simply isn't. its the system not the player. call it an excuse if you want but thats how I see it.

EDIT2: only three players i give a damn about on this team, so i'm not just a "homer" or "biased" for a player just because he plays for the bobcats, and thats Kemba,Hendo and Biz.. and UPS can stick around cuz I think he'll be a very good role player, however every single else one of our other players can **** off for all i care

KembaWalker · Post #680 » by **KembaWalker** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:08 pm

Kemba is gonna be fine. Judging anything off this season isn't a good idea. It'd be one thing if we had a strong coach who really knew what he was doing and how to use his players. The fact that we went from Boris to Diop to Mullens to Bismack as starting center in like a month shows you Silas never had a strong gameplan that he believed in. Its no surprise so many guys on the team are struggling with that kind of system and leadership.