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The 2013 free agency thread.

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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#761 » by HornetJail » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:00 am

MPM wrote:Frank Isola: Knicks have interest in Tyrus Thomas, who was officially released by the Bobcats today. Twitter @FisolaNYDN

Pure awesomeness. Please make this happen.


Wouldn't it be great if they offered him the MLE or something? :lol:
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#762 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:04 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
MPM wrote:Frank Isola: Knicks have interest in Tyrus Thomas, who was officially released by the Bobcats today. Twitter @FisolaNYDN

Pure awesomeness. Please make this happen.


Wouldn't it be great if they offered him the MLE or something? :lol:


What would happen if they did? Just curious.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#763 » by HornetJail » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:06 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
MPM wrote:Frank Isola: Knicks have interest in Tyrus Thomas, who was officially released by the Bobcats today. Twitter @FisolaNYDN

Pure awesomeness. Please make this happen.


Wouldn't it be great if they offered him the MLE or something? :lol:


What would happen if they did? Just curious.

MJ would only have to pay the difference between our contract and his new one. Meaning $5M of his $9M contract would be paid off, and we'd only owe him $4M.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#764 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:09 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
Wouldn't it be great if they offered him the MLE or something? :lol:


What would happen if they did? Just curious.

MJ would only have to pay the difference between our contract and his new one. Meaning $5M of his $9M contract would be paid off, and we'd only owe him $4M.


Oh wow, thanks. I can't see the Knicks doing that unfortunately.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#765 » by HornetJail » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:11 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
What would happen if they did? Just curious.

MJ would only have to pay the difference between our contract and his new one. Meaning $5M of his $9M contract would be paid off, and we'd only owe him $4M.


Oh wow, thanks. I can't see the Knicks doing that unfortunately.

Yeah I don't either, the reason Andray Blatche keeps signing minimum deals is because the Wizards owe him his money. The more he signs for, the less his former team pays. There's no difference to him, whether he's signing a minimum contract vs. an $8M contract. He still gets his money.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#766 » by Marvel » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:21 am

Kyrie, Waiters, Bennett, Thompson, Varejao/Bynum

Bench: Jack, Zeller, CJ, Karasev, Gee.

Solid, playoffs for sure IF Bynum and Varejao are healthy.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#767 » by TheKingofSting » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:15 am

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LamarMatic7 wrote:They are over-paying him, but his skillset is definitely worth 11 million. Just watch, one of that young talented Kings bunch will develop into a player who was meaningful NBA moments. Not saying it's necessarily Evans, but it's worth the gamble, imo. The Pelicans are turning into a serious team.


My point is that is too much to pay him to come off of the bench, they already have Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon.

I have four points I want to make then:

His destiny might just be being the third guard/first player off the bench who averages 15 points in 30 minutes for a playoffs team. Sometimes it's worth to overpay those guys, since they might benefit your team just as much as any starter (per example, Vinnie Johnson, Jason Terry).

It's only July the 4th. It's a bit too early to look at each team's rotations, there are still possible trades ahead. The Pelicans already have Vasquez behind Holiday, so it seems very plausible that they will shake up their back-court with a move or two. Two weeks from now it might be Tyreke's starting position with Gordon gone. (Don't forget about Rivers either.)

Moreover, we don't even know his real position yet. He might be a small three for all we know (wouldn't that be a scary line-up to defend...) Sac Town certainly didn't find out what position fits him best.

Last off, are we even sure Gordon can play a full NBA season?


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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#768 » by HornetJail » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:48 am

Jeff Teague signed with Milwaukee. 4/32.

Big contract. They must think Jennings is as good as gone.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#769 » by catch20two » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:37 am

Marvel wrote:Kyrie, Waiters, Bennett, Thompson, Varejao/Bynum

Bench: Jack, Zeller, CJ, Karasev, Gee.

Solid, playoffs for sure IF Bynum and Varejao are healthy.


They got Earl Clark from the Lakers too.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#770 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:57 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Jeff Teague signed with Milwaukee. 4/32.

Big contract. They must think Jennings is as good as gone.


Walker is going to get a massive contract the way things are going.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#771 » by James Gatz » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:08 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:Jeff Teague signed with Milwaukee. 4/32.

Big contract. They must think Jennings is as good as gone.


Walker is going to get a massive contract the way things are going.


Walker deserves something in the steph curry, Jrue holiday mold. Anything around 12 a year I'd be happy with.

My big concern is how much Biz may get.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#772 » by HornetJail » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:03 pm

James Gatz wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:Jeff Teague signed with Milwaukee. 4/32.

Big contract. They must think Jennings is as good as gone.


Walker is going to get a massive contract the way things are going.


Walker deserves something in the steph curry, Jrue holiday mold. Anything around 12 a year I'd be happy with.

My big concern is how much Biz may get.

Kemba still has two years to improve. He could very well be an all-star by that time. Curry and Holiday both got their contracts before they broke out. If Curry and Holiday didn't get extended last summer, I think both would be getting offered max deals. Same could happen with Kemba. We need to extend him next summer before he hits the open market in 2015.

With Biz, if he doesn't break out next season (which is very possible given we have three bigs that deserve playing time over him), if we can extend him for cheap, then we should do it. Unless Biz has a Larry Sanders-like break out season, Biz doesn't have a lot of value around the league.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#773 » by JDuaneWayne » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:33 pm

Is Kemba the first rookie we will likely extend after year 3 or did we extend Okafor after year 3 as well?
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Post#774 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:50 pm

JDuaneWayne wrote:Is Kemba the first rookie we will likely extend after year 3 or did we extend Okafor after year 3 as well?


Yes, Emeka Okafor was the 1st rookie ever extended by the Charlotte Bobcats franchise & the last (so far). It remains to be seen if Kemba lasts until his extension past his rookie contract in a Bobcats/Hornets uniform. I'm not saying that he won't or shouldn't, but you never know what trade proposal may be thrown in Cho's direction within the next year or two
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#775 » by JDuaneWayne » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:52 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
JDuaneWayne wrote:Is Kemba the first rookie we will likely extend after year 3 or did we extend Okafor after year 3 as well?


Yes, Emeka Okafor was the 1st rookie ever extended by the Charlotte Bobcats franchise & the last (so far). It remains to be seen if Kemba lasts until his extension past his rookie contract in a Bobcats/Hornets uniform. I'm not saying that he won't or shouldn't, but you never know what trade proposal may be thrown in Cho's direction within the next year or two


What I was really asking was did we extend Okafor early or not. Did he get extended after year 3 or year 4. Pretty exciting we are even talking about extending a player early for once.
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#776 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:56 pm

JDuaneWayne wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
JDuaneWayne wrote:Is Kemba the first rookie we will likely extend after year 3 or did we extend Okafor after year 3 as well?


Yes, Emeka Okafor was the 1st rookie ever extended by the Charlotte Bobcats franchise & the last (so far). It remains to be seen if Kemba lasts until his extension past his rookie contract in a Bobcats/Hornets uniform. I'm not saying that he won't or shouldn't, but you never know what trade proposal may be thrown in Cho's direction within the next year or two


What I was really asking was did we extend Okafor early or not. Did he get extended after year 3 or year 4. Pretty exciting we are even talking about extending a player early for once.


The Bobcats tried to extend Okafor after year 3, but he turned down their offer of 5-years/$60 million, which ended up being a smart decision for him because they eventually offered him 6-years/$72 million after year 4
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#777 » by JDuaneWayne » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:58 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
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mrknowitall215 wrote:
Yes, Emeka Okafor was the 1st rookie ever extended by the Charlotte Bobcats franchise & the last (so far). It remains to be seen if Kemba lasts until his extension past his rookie contract in a Bobcats/Hornets uniform. I'm not saying that he won't or shouldn't, but you never know what trade proposal may be thrown in Cho's direction within the next year or two


What I was really asking was did we extend Okafor early or not. Did he get extended after year 3 or year 4. Pretty exciting we are even talking about extending a player early for once.


The Bobcats tried to extend Okafor after year 3, but he turned down their offer of 5-years/$60 million, which ended up being a smart decision for him because they eventually offered him 6-years/$72 million after year 4


Thanks, I guess you do know it all. Unfortunately it was all downhill from there
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#778 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:04 pm

JDuaneWayne wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
JDuaneWayne wrote:
What I was really asking was did we extend Okafor early or not. Did he get extended after year 3 or year 4. Pretty exciting we are even talking about extending a player early for once.


The Bobcats tried to extend Okafor after year 3, but he turned down their offer of 5-years/$60 million, which ended up being a smart decision for him because they eventually offered him 6-years/$72 million after year 4


Thanks, I guess you do know it all. Unfortunately it was all downhill from there


I don't know it all. I just like to think I do. It's a nickname given to me by a few ex-girlfriends, and it kind of stuck :wink:
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#779 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:25 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/355720748574322692[/tweet]

I blame this on Henderson tying up Charlotte's available cap space & focus. Buycks would've made a perfect 3rd string PG for the Bobcats
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Re: The 2013 free agency thread. 

Post#780 » by HornetJail » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:05 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/355720748574322692[/tweet]

I blame this on Henderson tying up Charlotte's available cap space & focus. Buycks would've made a perfect 3rd string PG for the Bobcats

He's very replaceable. Would've prefered Scott Machado or Kyck Kabongo anyway. If all else fails, Pargo was pretty good.
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