Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion

[Bassman]

I like Proctor, agree his projected range is lower than our picks. But if we do not trade our seconds to move into the first, and we use the 33rd pick to secure a quality big like Raynaud, I could be persuaded to consider Proctor next. He fits that “character and hard work” culture, while having some good skills to utilize at the 2 or the 1. But I’m also desiring another big man there, just to pile up strong cordwood to see who is worth keeping.

[EmpireFalls]

I think we should at all costs not be making both picks 33 AND 34. Either trade them both to move up, or trade out of one for a later pick.

It makes no sense to take multiple seconds in such a weak second round now. We could get a lot of value for pick 34.

[JMAC3]

I think we should at all costs not be making both picks 33 AND 34. Either trade them both to move up, or trade out of one for a later pick.

It makes no sense to take multiple seconds in such a weak second round now. We could get a lot of value for pick 34.

I mean the 2nd round is still pretty good in the early 30s even after players withdrew, it gets weak once you get past 40.

[Bassman]

I still want to trade up into round 1 for Rasheer Fleming. I see him as a quality PF off the bench even if he never sees starter minutes. So much better than Tiddy or any big slipping into the second round.

[JMAC3]

Two international guys that should be in our draft range.

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[fatlever]

plow had penda in his top 12, i think. he was super high on him. would obv be great value at 33

[Diop]

yeah i was excited over Penda before but he seems destined for the first round. (he has that Diaw, Batum offense passivity though)

Bravor has warned us

[bravor]

I already said he should not be drafted here since his shooting efficiency (and ft shooting) still something to fix.

He had good play offs run (we were eliminated vy Monaco, EL finalist, in a 3 games serie), but he did not have godly performance.
He's still a strong swiss army knife with great court vision on both ends. Great pnr skills as well. Lack of touch is killing his efficiency but his motor (and his power)

I am also against drafting either Traore or Beringer. The first because he is probably not good enough (not saying he is bad, he has the tools to succeed here) for a team like Charlotte and the latter because it will take time to get ready (but his potential is huge).

Raynaud would be a nice option here though. Even though i have my doubts about his ability to remain on the court because of his lack of foot speed, we never had a big with so good fundamentals since Moiso i would think (and Weis). With a strong defensive forward(s), it could work
He's an immediate threat on pick n pop and his passing would help as well (as long as shooters dont brick their shots).

Another option as point forward is Mo Diawara. He would come cheap (he's nowhere in mock drafts) but i am high on him as 3D (he can shoot well from deep) and defensively he is really solid (and mobile). He can't put the ball on the floor though, his handle is really not good.
But this team needs quality players from the bench, hard to think he would not replace easily the impact of half of the current bench players

[JMAC3]

Have my big board built out really far now, here are a few fun names that I would look at for Summer League/2Way Contracts.

Kadary Richmond- defensive/playmaker point guard that can't shoot.
Ryan Nembhard- pass first point
Chucky Hepburn- defensive pg, that can't shoot.

Viktor Lakhin- Stretch 5
Vladislav Goldin- Rim Running 5
Clifford Omoruyi- Rim Running 5

Igor Milicic Jr- Athletic forward from Unc-Charlote/Tennessee
Jonathan Pierre- 3D prospect from Belmont
John Poulakidas - Knockdown shooting 4 man from Yale
Obinna Anochili Killen- Defensive Big from Marshall- similar to Jared Vanderbilt

Again, none of these guys probably get drafted but some fun names.

[JMAC3]

Kobe Sanders is a semi-interesting swing in the 2nd round, I do feel like his bust chances are relatively high.
6-8 guard/wing that weighs 203 lbs.
Averaged 16 pts, 4 reb, 4 assists on a bad Nevada team this year.
Gives some Cody Martin vibes as a master of none of type of prospect.

but he might be a Gordon Hayward type of playmaking wing that we have been missing since losing him.

[Rays Pompadour]

Wouldn't it be fun if the Hornets drafted Drake Powell and Tyrese Proctor back to back in the second round? Powell may go earlier and many believe Proctor should be drafted in the 40's, but I think practices would be just so juicy.

But I suspect Charlotte won't make either pick. I believe the NIL departures make the top five or so in the second round of this draft much more valuable than we'll see in the same tier the next few years. The drop-off in talent is significant after the first few picks in the second round, in my opinion.

I don't think Peterson can trade back into the first this year by packaging both seconds. But I do think 33 or 34 are valuable enough to pair with a future first to get into the mid-twenties. The remaining second will be traded for multiple future second rounders.

[Diop]

I already said he should not be drafted here since his shooting efficiency (and ft shooting) still something to fix.

He had good play offs run (we were eliminated vy Monaco, EL finalist, in a 3 games serie), but he did not have godly performance.
He's still a strong swiss army knife with great court vision on both ends. Great pnr skills as well. Lack of touch is killing his efficiency but his motor (and his power)

I am also against drafting either Traore or Beringer. The first because he is probably not good enough (not saying he is bad, he has the tools to succeed here) for a team like Charlotte and the latter because it will take time to get ready (but his potential is huge).

Raynaud would be a nice option here though. Even though i have my doubts about his ability to remain on the court because of his lack of foot speed, we never had a big with so good fundamentals since Moiso i would think (and Weis). With a strong defensive forward(s), it could work
He's an immediate threat on pick n pop and his passing would help as well (as long as shooters dont brick their shots).

Another option as point forward is Mo Diawara. He would come cheap (he's nowhere in mock drafts) but i am high on him as 3D (he can shoot well from deep) and defensively he is really solid (and mobile). He can't put the ball on the floor though, his handle is really not good.
But this team needs quality players from the bench, hard to think he would not replace easily the impact of half of the current bench players

i wasn't trying to fire a shot or stir, i was just pointing out that most people here hated Diaw and Batum's passivity and that Penda has a bit of that in him.

[Diop]

Ryan Nembhard- pass first point

I wouldn't mind bringing in a pass first point guard if it only costs a late second or something. would be good for the g league and we don't have floor general types. his physical attributes will probably mean he struggles to stay in the NBA, but for a late 2nd or undrafted who cares.

[wilson115]

Another option as point forward is Mo Diawara. He would come cheap (he's nowhere in mock drafts) but i am high on him as 3D (he can shoot well from deep) and defensively he is really solid (and mobile). He can't put the ball on the floor though, his handle is really not good.
But this team needs quality players from the bench, hard to think he would not replace easily the impact of half of the current bench players

Like Raynaud too, but didn't know Diawara's such a beast. Yikes.

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[bravor]

I already said he should not be drafted here since his shooting efficiency (and ft shooting) still something to fix.

He had good play offs run (we were eliminated vy Monaco, EL finalist, in a 3 games serie), but he did not have godly performance.
He's still a strong swiss army knife with great court vision on both ends. Great pnr skills as well. Lack of touch is killing his efficiency but his motor (and his power)

Sure, you kinda misunderstood my post though. It was nothing against what you said, i just meant his profile really dont match what this team needs. Knowing i already said i would be really surprised if he's not taken in the 1st round around the #20 spot.
As for being passive though, he's way more agressive than Batum, the main issue is his (lack of) efficiency close to the rim.
Imo he provokes more shooting fouls (and ft's) than what Batum or even Diaw generated when they were young players here. Essentially because he run plays quite often (esp on the pnr) and his handle is good enough (not saying it is nba good) to run the point as a point forward).
Not saying he is Ingles's level in that area though unfortunately.

There are much better options for Charlotte to fill the roster with really playable rookies for cheap (or undrafted if that's Diawara's case), starting with wing depth.

Speaking of that, i am probably higher than some on Ben Saraf. Just not sure if he could handle the sf position, but his playmaking is legit and so is his leadership.

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6-7 with 6-11 wingspan at 19 and elite international competition vs his peers. I might actually be okay trading up into the first to get him using the 2 seconds.