Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread

Elden Payton · Post #961 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:08 am

We should trade him back to the ABA.

LamarMatic7 · Post #962 » by **LamarMatic7** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:47 am

Sik Infant wrote:We should trade him back to the ABA.

I agree. We should trade him back to 1975 by making deal with the Spirits of St. Louis for Goo Kennedy, Fly Williams and Marvin "Bad News" Barnes's heroin dealer (thus a chance to get Barnes later on as well).

Elden Payton · Post #963 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:02 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:We should trade him back to the ABA.

I agree. We should trade him back to 1975 by making deal with the Spirits of St. Louis for Goo Kennedy, Fly Williams and Marvin "Bad News" Barnes's heroin dealer (thus a chance to get Barnes later on as well).

I would honestly trade him to the Flint Tropics for Jackie Moon right now.

LamarMatic7 · Post #964 » by **LamarMatic7** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:47 pm

Sik Infant wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:We should trade him back to the ABA.

I agree. We should trade him back to 1975 by making deal with the Spirits of St. Louis for Goo Kennedy, Fly Williams and Marvin "Bad News" Barnes's heroin dealer (thus a chance to get Barnes later on as well).

I would honestly trade him to the Flint Tropics for Jackie Moon right now.

Jackie Moon and Vakidis. Moon could start in the place of McBob, while Vakidis could back up Biz.

Elden Payton · Post #965 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:15 am

LamarMatic7 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:I agree. We should trade him back to 1975 by making deal with the Spirits of St. Louis for Goo Kennedy, Fly Williams and Marvin "Bad News" Barnes's heroin dealer (thus a chance to get Barnes later on as well).

I would honestly trade him to the Flint Tropics for Jackie Moon right now.

Jackie Moon and Vakidis. Moon could start in the place of McBob, while Vakidis could back up Biz.

You deserve to be HOF'ed.

Snidely FC · Post #966 » by **Snidely FC** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:13 am

The Al Jefferson signing was ruinous to the rebuild. Really terrible decision.

Post #967 » by **JDR720** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:31 am

I completely understand why some Utah fans hate him now

catch20two · Post #968 » by **catch20two** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:35 am

Jefferson is what Mullens would be if he didn't shoot 3s and pump faked his way to the basket.

Liver_Pooty · Post #969 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:42 am

catch20two wrote:Jefferson is what Mullens would be if he didn't shoot 3s and pump faked his way to the basket.

Negative. Jefferson sucks defensively. But that's well known and has been for 10 years. But he's still 46788 times better than Mullens. Rather unfair and terrible comp.

catch20two · Post #970 » by **catch20two** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:44 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:Jefferson is what Mullens would be if he didn't shoot 3s and pump faked his way to the basket.

Negative. Jefferson sucks defensively. But that's well known and has been for 10 years. But he's still 46788 times better than Mullens. Rather unfair and terrible comp.

I was overexaggerating or being facetious but they are similar defensively.

Liver_Pooty · Post #971 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:47 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:Jefferson is what Mullens would be if he didn't shoot 3s and pump faked his way to the basket.

Negative. Jefferson sucks defensively. But that's well known and has been for 10 years. But he's still 46788 times better than Mullens. Rather unfair and terrible comp.

I was overexaggerating or being facetious but they are similar defensively.

I just hate and despise Mullens. Great athlete, can shoot, nice build for a 7 footer, but he acts lazy and is the dumbest player in the league. Jefferson tries, he's just limited since he tore his acl years ago. No excuses either way.

Post #972 » by **JDR720** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:58 am

Byron Mullens is the only former Charlotte player i still hate, as soon as most players leave Charlotte i become neutral on them....but he is a special case....i hate him!!!!

Snidely FC · Post #973 » by **Snidely FC** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:08 pm

In the past week WAS, MIN & CHI realized that Al NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DOUBLE TEAMED. They defended him one on one with Gortat, Pek & Taj. CHA brought him in to be double teamed to improve spacing. But he sets up too far from the hoop and has no apparent strength to get closer. This is a disaster and a major reason why our offensive struggles have compounded to alarming rates.

LamarMatic7 · Post #974 » by **LamarMatic7** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:51 pm

Snidely FC wrote:In the past week WAS, MIN & CHI realized that Al NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DOUBLE TEAMED. They defended him one on one with Gortat, Pek & Taj. CHA brought him in to be double teamed to improve spacing. But he sets up too far from the hoop and has no apparent strength to get closer. This is a disaster and a major reason why our offensive struggles have compounded to alarming rates.

Or they can just all keep one foot in the paint and not fully commit, yet bother Al since our shooters aren't that dangerous.

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Eoghan · Post #975 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:39 pm

Snidely FC wrote:In the past week WAS, MIN & CHI realized that Al NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE DOUBLE TEAMED. They defended him one on one with Gortat, Pek & Taj. CHA brought him in to be double teamed to improve spacing. But he sets up too far from the hoop and has no apparent strength to get closer. This is a disaster and a major reason why our offensive struggles have compounded to alarming rates.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! Running the offense through Jefferson is indeed ruinous. It doesn't even matter that we don't have any shooters b/c Al posts up in a place where even if he was surrounded by shooters, they wouldn't get any open looks. All the good shooting spots are only a couple of steps away from where Jefferson likes to set up camp so defenses can "to the 2.9" us to death.

I wrote a giant post about this on Bobcats Planet the other day.

Post #976 » by **BigSlam** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:57 pm

Al Jefferson’s season got off to an extremely slow start thanks to an ankle injury, but he’s rounded into form since.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantas ... --nba.html

Jefferson’s Usage Rate (24.2) on his new team is his highest mark since 2008/09, and his 5.4 Turnover Ratio ranks fifth-best in the entire league (and no one ahead of him touches the ball nearly as much

mrknowitall215 · Post #977 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:09 pm

I don't have no beef with Jefferson for he is limited defensively because he isn't agile or athletic enough to contest shots on a consistent basis, but it's frustrating to watch. I'm annoyed by Clifford's resistance to put a rim protector alongside Jefferson now that opposing teams are relentlessly & intentionally attacking him on the defensive end sighting his limitations

Eoghan · Post #978 » by **Eoghan** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:56 pm

BigSlam wrote:
Al Jefferson’s season got off to an extremely slow start thanks to an ankle injury, but he’s rounded into form since.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantas ... --nba.html

Jefferson’s Usage Rate (24.2) on his new team is his highest mark since 2008/09, and his 5.4 Turnover Ratio ranks fifth-best in the entire league (and no one ahead of him touches the ball nearly as much

That's only because taking low percentage shots from the high post that lead to fast breaks for the other team aren't considered turnovers. It would also be a lot higher if refs would call a couple of his 5-6 travels every game.

Post #979 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:59 am

ick Bonnell ‏@rick_bonnell 1m

Al Jefferson says he might need off-season surgery on his right ankle to "clean up" the damage it has suffered this season.

Elden Payton · Post #980 » by **Elden Payton** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:50 am

Deliberately hurting his trade value?