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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1921 » by Benjamin Linus » Tue Nov 9, 2021 10:11 am

Is there a move for Daniel Theis?

29 yo Theis seems expendable on a 1-9 Rockets team that's got Christian Wood, Sengun and Garuba. We could've just signed him this offseason instead of Oubre. I mean, Oubre works for him straight up after December 15th. Or PJ and filler for Theis works. Plumlee + other assets for Theis also works
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1922 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Tue Nov 9, 2021 7:34 pm

Plumlee and 2nds should be enough. Plumlee is on the books for this year and partially guaranteed next year, they can cut him loose or trade him in like 8 months. Theis is on the books for four years, they should be fairly motivated to move him to get minutes to everyone.

We need Oubre when Hayward has his annual injury and there's no point keeping five centers on the roster.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1923 » by SWedd523 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 7:57 pm

I can't get behind trading Plumlee for a different Center. What happens when that guy sucks? gets hurt? needs to rest?

The only sort of trades I can get along with center around some package of Rozier or Gordo plus some of the end of the bench guys.

From a balance perspective, it makes the most sense instead of continuing to apply band-aids to a sucking chest wound.

They really need to be monitoring the Cleveland and Houston bigs. There's no way all those guys are going to stay together long term. I also really think Turner is a great fit here with his rim defense but believe that ship may have sailed.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1924 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Tue Nov 9, 2021 9:57 pm

SWedd523 wrote:I can't get behind trading Plumlee for a different Center. What happens when that guy sucks? gets hurt? needs to rest?

The only sort of trades I can get along with center around some package of Rozier or Gordo plus some of the end of the bench guys.

From a balance perspective, it makes the most sense instead of continuing to apply band-aids to a sucking chest wound.

They really need to be monitoring the Cleveland and Houston bigs. There's no way all those guys are going to stay together long term. I also really think Turner is a great fit here with his rim defense but believe that ship may have sailed.

A Plumlee trade for someone a bit better (like Theis) stops the bleeding, roughly gets us back to last season's center rotation, but shouldn't stop us from making another move. Theis would be a quality backup if we did get a starter using Rozier or Hayward or PJ
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1925 » by yosemiteben » Tue Nov 9, 2021 10:18 pm

What problem do we have that Theis is solving?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1926 » by KembaWalker » Tue Nov 9, 2021 11:27 pm

as sad as it is we should have just signed Drummond for a scab just for the rebounding and lob plays
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1927 » by JDR720 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:33 am

Ideally, we can find another starting level center and make Plumlee a backup. Either by trading one of Rozier & Gordon, or via FA. Or we finally break out draft curse when it comes to bigs.... yeah FA or trade it is.

Trading Plumlee for another average to below average starting center doesn't solve anything though. We still can't defend or rebound. Those are systemic issues that one mid-level player isn't going to solve.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1928 » by JGib23 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:03 am

Could have signed Drummond or Whiteside and despite their flaws, we would be soooo much better.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1929 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:56 am

You guys do realize Hayward is shooting 50 48 84 right? His name continuously getting brought up in trade scenarios is nauseating. If you're letting him go you better get a near all star caliber player in return. Guys throwing him in trades like he's chopped liver.
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Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1930 » by Roll Tide 09 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:16 am

Washington + Carey

For

KP + two 1st round picks

And then…

Sign Cousins.

Pay the tax and make this team better.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1931 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:43 am

Hayward and Bouknight for Ben Simmons.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1932 » by luciano-davidwesley » Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:06 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Hayward and Bouknight for Ben Simmons.

Simmons is cancer. Avoid
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1933 » by fatlever » Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:23 am

maybe, but thats a chance you take as small market team if you can. buy low on all-nba talent.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1934 » by Diop » Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:58 am

fatlever wrote:maybe, but thats a chance you take as small market team if you can. buy low on all-nba talent.

Yeah I hate Simmons for the way he’s gone about business, especially with the national team, but I’d still take him
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1935 » by Diop » Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:49 pm

I wonder if they ever entertained batum for horford last year, as the dude is pretty much averaging a double double with over 2 and half blocks a game. He really would have helped this team.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1936 » by amcoolio » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:15 pm

Simmons would anchor our defense. I would be for it, but we should accept that our offense will suffer greatly if we ship Hayward out. Miles Bridges is going to have to ball out, and Cody Martin will need to continue to shoot well
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1937 » by JDR720 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:52 pm

Simmons offense isn't that bad when he is mentally there. He shoots a high percentage and will score 15-18ppg. He could be our best passer too. His offensive issues are shooting and FT's.

Melo
Rozier
Miles
SImmons
PJ (for shooting)

That's actually a pretty balanced lineup.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1938 » by MPM » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:53 pm

I've never been a big Bagley fan, but he's textbook definition buy-low, low, low right now and would be an immediate improvement to Plum/Richards - https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/264687/Mavin-Bagley-Refused-To-Enter-Game-Vs-Suns.

"Schwartz cited Bagley's lack of development and opportunities as reasons the Kings and his client should part ways."
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1939 » by Diop » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:11 pm

Wait till bagley gets bought out
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1940 » by Rays Pompadour » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:47 pm

Diop wrote:Wait till bagley gets bought out


I wonder if Kupchak could work out a Carey for Bagley swap. That would be poetic justice, I think...a Carolina guy trading two useless Duke players for each other.

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