The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic

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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#121 » by BruttoNostra » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:27 am

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BrianInPhilly wrote:As others said not sure what Utah is thinking ... Sexton was probably their best guard last season considering George's disaster season. I'd think lots of teams would love to him as a 3rd guard, so to get essentially nothing for him is surprising.

Edit - Sexton was even better last season that I thought. He posted a 48.0 /40.6 /86.5 split ... In fact career wise he's 47/39/84. I think people initially think he's some standard low efficiency chucker of a guard since that's kind of his rep, but his efficiency is pretty good. Is he not very similar to Zach Lavine? And paid way less.


He's an undersized shooting guard and Utah wanted to open up playing time for other players.

I don't know why they wanted Nurkic, but maybe they think they can flip him down the road? Or play him if they do a Kessler trade?

The last time he was traded a FRP attached was required to get rid of him.
Though it was with 2y left on his contract. Now that he's an expiring, the only way he can bring any value is if he is traded for a similarly bad, but longer contract, but hey, it would be true if they just retained Sexton.
Anyway, Nurkic is washed, I don't see any team making a move for him from a playing perspective.
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#122 » by doogie_hauser » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:29 am

I don't think Sexton is all that good. I think some posters are just salty Ainge didn't trade him to their team.

They are banking on Walter Clayton Jnr having.an immediate impact straight away.

For all Ainge slander right now, the Jazz had a fantastic draft haul and got a promising young coach locked in for the.future

Their future is a lot brighter than what it may seem right now.
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#123 » by doogie_hauser » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:29 am

BruttoNostra wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
BrianInPhilly wrote:As others said not sure what Utah is thinking ... Sexton was probably their best guard last season considering George's disaster season. I'd think lots of teams would love to him as a 3rd guard, so to get essentially nothing for him is surprising.

Edit - Sexton was even better last season that I thought. He posted a 48.0 /40.6 /86.5 split ... In fact career wise he's 47/39/84. I think people initially think he's some standard low efficiency chucker of a guard since that's kind of his rep, but his efficiency is pretty good. Is he not very similar to Zach Lavine? And paid way less.


He's an undersized shooting guard and Utah wanted to open up playing time for other players.

I don't know why they wanted Nurkic, but maybe they think they can flip him down the road? Or play him if they do a Kessler trade?

The last time he was traded a FRP attached was required to get rid of him.
Though it was with 2y left on his contract. Now that he's an expiring, the only way he can bring any value is if he is traded for a similarly bad, but longer contract, but hey, it would be true if they just retained Sexton.
Anyway, Nurkic is washed, I don't see any team making a move for him from a playing perspective.


If the Knicks can get him cheaply, they would have a look.
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#124 » by BruttoNostra » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:40 am

doogie_hauser wrote:
BruttoNostra wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
He's an undersized shooting guard and Utah wanted to open up playing time for other players.

I don't know why they wanted Nurkic, but maybe they think they can flip him down the road? Or play him if they do a Kessler trade?

The last time he was traded a FRP attached was required to get rid of him.
Though it was with 2y left on his contract. Now that he's an expiring, the only way he can bring any value is if he is traded for a similarly bad, but longer contract, but hey, it would be true if they just retained Sexton.
Anyway, Nurkic is washed, I don't see any team making a move for him from a playing perspective.


If the Knicks can get him cheaply, they would have a look.

Cheaply as in a trade?
No comparable contracts on the Knicks side. You don't touch your top-5, then Robinson's $13M expiring as a MUCH better deal (better player, less money, both are injured half the time), then not enough smaller/min contracts left.

If Nurkic is bought out - Knicks still can't sign him:


Here are the moves that a team whose salary is above the first tax apron – but below the second apron – is prohibited from making in 2024/25 and beyond:
...
Signing a player who was waived during the current season if his pre-waiver salary for that season exceeded the amount of the non-taxpayer mid-level exception.
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https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/01/hoops-rumors-glossary-tax-aprons-2.html
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#125 » by NCHeels2008 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:54 am

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mg wrote:Salary dump giving up a SRP to get off an expiring. How desperate are the Jazz to get Dybantsa, Boozer, or Peterson in the next draft..
Very desperate as they should be.
The new ownership is trying to build a winning culture. The NHL team is attempting to do the same.

The last superstar the Jazz have had was Karl Malone.

They need something to market. I hope WCJ can make a name for himself be something positive for Jazz fans.


In the meantime I'd argue they're destroying Lari's value and Sextons
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#126 » by Dan Z » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:02 am

NCHeels2008 wrote:
HMFFL wrote:
mg wrote:Salary dump giving up a SRP to get off an expiring. How desperate are the Jazz to get Dybantsa, Boozer, or Peterson in the next draft..
Very desperate as they should be.
The new ownership is trying to build a winning culture. The NHL team is attempting to do the same.

The last superstar the Jazz have had was Karl Malone.

They need something to market. I hope WCJ can make a name for himself be something positive for Jazz fans.


In the meantime I'd argue they're destroying Lari's value and Sextons


Maybe the idea is that they'll trade Markkanen after he plays for a bit and potentially brings his value up a bit?

https://www.slcdunk.com/2025/6/28/24458130/nba-trade-rumors-new-intel-on-lauri-markkanen
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#127 » by pepe1991 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:04 am

RRR3 wrote:Celtics fans used to INSIST Ainge was actually a genius but he has been a complete joke in Utah and Boston only got over the hump when Stevens took over :lol:


Most teams would kill for things Ainge achieved with Celtics from 2003-2021.

Two nba finals, one championship, 4 conference finals.

Spine of Stevens championship 2024 roster is from Ainge era when he robbed that fool Billy the Peasant.


As for his days with Jazz, they only sucked this year. Last year(and year prior) they drafted Cody Williams and Hendricks. Cody has been really bad, but Hendricks just can't stay healthy. Tbh i thought Cody will be better as well. Might still become, they can only pray he is at least 80% of player his bro is.

Filpowski, Kessler, Collider are all good finds given where they were taken. Bottom line, when you bottom out roster and start rebuild via draft, your success will still rely heavily on dumb luck from ping pong balls from draft. If they won lottery and drafted Flagg, people would be talking how he is genius.
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#128 » by -Luke- » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:52 am

That's the second deal in the off-season where I'm puzzled that team A gave up additional draft pick(s) and not team B. The first was the Holiday for Simons deal. I think in both cases the other team should have attached a pick or picks, even if just a single second. Maybe I'm just underestimating/overestimating the value of the traded players.
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#129 » by Pointgod » Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:13 pm

-Luke- wrote:That's the second deal in the off-season where I'm puzzled that team A gave up additional draft pick(s) and not team B. The first was the Holiday for Simons deal. I think in both cases the other team should have attached a pick or picks, even if just a single second. Maybe I'm just underestimating/overestimating the value of the traded players.


Both deals were to move high usage players to get younger guys more reps. Both trades weren’t great for the Portland and Utah, but I get why they made them.
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#130 » by PaulKellerman » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:56 pm

Ainge after lucking into Boozer or AJ: "Fans can finally start to see the vision"
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Re: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic 

Post#131 » by mg » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:16 pm

Well they just bought out Clarkson who is a Klutch client.

I honestly think Klutch was the one pulling the strings on this Sexton/Nurk deal. They also represent both these players and these agents have alot of pull.

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